The *Official* MSI K8NGM2-FID GeForce 6150 Motherboard Thread

[avi85]

Originally posted by: defleprd
I fear I have made a serious mistake. I accidentally disabled the Onchip VGA Frame Buffer Size and now I"m getting no signal to my monitor and can't see the BIOS settings to fix this. I had flashed to 3.50 previously but the safety recover function doesn't seem to work (still no VGA video signal).

Please help!

reset the bios, there is a button on the mobo near the battery which does this.

 

[morkys]

Hello peoples!

Just checking out the 6150 world again. I am looking at upgrading my fathers PC from his K6 III 400 so I may just give him my MSI Neo2 Plat with 512-1G OCZ and an AMD64 3000 cpu. To replace that stuff that was mine, I was thinking of finding an MSI 6150 board somehow and grabbing a CPU and DDR ram.

Has this MSI 6150 motherboard proved fairly reliable etc? My Neo2 plat which is run stock is totally perfect with XP Pro.

Is this board available anywhere new or do I need to find it used? Is there an updated/newer version I should consider?

thanx in advance for any feedback,

 

[avi85]

Originally posted by: morkys
Hello peoples!

Just checking out the 6150 world again. I am looking at upgrading my fathers PC from his K6 III 400 so I may just give him my MSI Neo2 Plat with 512-1G OCZ and an AMD64 3000 cpu. To replace that stuff that was mine, I was thinking of finding an MSI 6150 board somehow and grabbing a CPU and DDR ram.

Has this MSI 6150 motherboard proved fairly reliable etc? My Neo2 plat which is run stock is totally perfect with XP Pro.

Is this board available anywhere new or do I need to find it used? Is there an updated/newer version I should consider?

thanx in advance for any feedback,

Why don't you look for an AM2 board (or S775 if you wanna check out intel, although for budget procs am2 is better), 939 and DDR are not things that I would get for a new platform, only to upgrade an older one.

 

[morkys]

Gotcha. I see there are nVidia 6150 type boards with AM2 and DDR2. I will check them out.

Any recommendations, just PM me since its not in the context of this thread.

thanx,

 

[avi85]

Originally posted by: morkys
Gotcha. I see there are nVidia 6150 type boards with AM2 and DDR2. I will check them out.

Any recommendations, just PM me since its not in the context of this thread.

thanx,

this thread is pretty much about all 6150 boards.

From the main post:

Which Board to Choose

Socket AM2 GeForce 6150 Board

ABIT NF-M2 nView is the best overall board. The only possible drawback is the lack of analogue TV out.

Link

 

[cupajava]

Using an old Winchester skt 939 I have hanging around for a new build I'm doing and want to know if the K8NGM2-FID overclocks the same as the NBP version? Is the bios the same for both?

I would prefer to get the FID version but I haven't been able to find any in Canada. I am also looking at the following 6150 boards as a replacement:

ASUS A8N-VM CSM
ASUS A8N-VM CSM/NBP
FOXCONN 6150BK8MC-KRSH

The ASUS boards are not much easier to find but I think I can get one. I am not a big fan of Foxconn but that board has everything the ASUS does (no firewire) and is $20 less.

Any opinions are welcome.

 

[xiama99]

I bought this board after reading this thread. After 8 months, my motherboard started to have problems. SATA controller failed several times and then, in a sudden, it could not POST any more. I didn't add/remove anything to the PC. So I had to RMA it. It has been three weeks now, I haven't got it back yet. I dropped it to their office, so there was no shipping delay. They don't answer my email now...

I've used more than 10 different motherboards in the past 10 years. Only two died, both are MSI boards. Maybe I was just lucky? but their service also sucks... just like the quality of the boards. so think again if you want to buy.

 

[BernardP]

A question about internal resolution scaling with NVidia video chips

I am trying to fine-tune my parents' new Dimension E521 (NVidia 6150 LE integrated graphics).

The monitor is a 19-inch Dell 1907FPV with a 1280x1024 native resolution. Not surprisingly, my parents find this resolution produces too much small detail for their aging eyes. So I set the resolution at 1024x768, which gives acceptable results, except for one thing:

The native 1280x1024 is a 5:4 ratio, while the 1024x768 is a 4:3 ratio. Consequently, everything on screen is slightly elongated vertically at 1024x768. Not the end of the world, but clearly visible, for example when viewing the big Earth globe in Google Earth

So I tried setting a Custom Resolution in the NVidia Control Panel. 1024x820 is the correct resolution to maintain a 5:4 ratio, and I successfully added it to available resolutions.

The problem is that when I try apply this 1024x820 resolution, it doesn't work. Not only do objects on-screen remain elongated, but the Taskbar and Start buttons disappear somewhere "below" the visible part of the screen. Moving the Taskbar to the side then makes it is vertically truncated. I have searched on the Dell web site and found that the 1907FPV supports the following resolutions:

720x400 pixels @ 28.3 MHz, 640x480 pixels @ 25.2 MHz, 640x480 pixels @ 31.5 MHz, 800x600 pixels @ 49.5 MHz, 1024x768 pixels @ 65.0 MHz, 1024x768 pixels @ 78.8 MHz, 1152x864 pixels @ 108 MHz, 1280x1024 pixels @ 135 MHz

So 1024x820 is not supported by the monitor. I have also tried 1024x816 abd 1024x824 (vertical rez divisible by 8) with the same results.

I am not interested in tinkering with larger icons and fonts at the native 1280x1024 resolution, as my previous experiences with these parameters have never been satisfactory: There are always things on-screen that persist in remaining too small. This is even more true in browsers, the main use of my parents' computer.

I have read that NVidia video cards and drivers support internal scaling. This means that the 1024x820 resolution is processed in the video chip, and upscaled to 1280x1024 before being sent to the monitor. Thus the monitors receives a signal at its native and supported resolution but what is seen onscreen is seen as 1024x820 : No distortion, no black bars.

Now, if only I could find out how to make this work. I have looked everywhere in the NVidia Control Panel and found only one setting that looks promising: Flat Screen Scaling Options, under Advanced Timings. The problem is that it is greyed out, so there is nothing I can try. I can see the same setting is also greyed out on my own computer with 6150 integrated graphics (K8NGM2-FID).

Is there any way to access Flat Screen Scaling Options with the 61xx integrated graphics? Would this setting be accessible with a discrete video card? Am I even on the right track in my efforts to make internal scaling work?

EDIT: I reposted this in the Video Forum and I got answers there. It's becoming much quieter in the K8NGM2-FID thread.

 

[foxt]

Picked up an open box K8NGM2-FID from the egg (wonder if it came from someone in this thread?). Had no extras (just the board), but seems to be running stable at stock with a 3000 Venice after a quick stink test (I fgured an open box on something this long gone had to be DOA, but not the case). Aside from the usual shakedown of a new rig, anything special I should be looking for before my 15 day return window closes?

 

[pctwo]

Originally posted by: h0mi
Strange issue that is happening sporadically... not sure if it's windows, my drivers for my NIC (or settings), my switch or my router, but randomly, my internet connection drops & then immediately reconnects which disrupts downloads. Windows tells me that the cable has been unplugged, then it's plugged back in. It happens in under a second, so I don't lose the IP address.

Unfortunately since I no longer have a functional KVM, I can't test other machines to see if they encounter the same problem (so I can't rule out my router, switch or even my ISP).

i see the same problem. but it could be anything, so who knows. i have verizon fios

 

[h0mi]

Originally posted by: pctwo

Originally posted by: h0mi
Strange issue that is happening sporadically... not sure if it's windows, my drivers for my NIC (or settings), my switch or my router, but randomly, my internet connection drops & then immediately reconnects which disrupts downloads. Windows tells me that the cable has been unplugged, then it's plugged back in. It happens in under a second, so I don't lose the IP address.

Unfortunately since I no longer have a functional KVM, I can't test other machines to see if they encounter the same problem (so I can't rule out my router, switch or even my ISP).

i see the same problem. but it could be anything, so who knows. i have verizon fios

My problem appeared to be related to a switch that was going faulty; when I removed the switch the problem disappeared. I need to buy another switch (gigabit prolly) but haven't gotten around to it yet.

 

[pctwo]

can anyone use the onboard gfx to display hd 264 and vc1 files with hardware acceleration. according to this chart

http://www.nvidia.com/page/purevideo_support.html

the 6150 does support hw accel for those codecs. But when I turn on hw accel in powerdvd7 and try to play some h264 stuff, it just crashes.

edit: using forceware 93.81

 

[grits]

h264 plays good using WMP11 and coreavc codec on my X2-3800, 84.21, outputting 1216x684. But I think it might vary with the bit rates of the source material.

 

[aeroguy]

Originally posted by: xiama99
I bought this board after reading this thread. After 8 months, my motherboard started to have problems. SATA controller failed several times and then, in a sudden, it could not POST any more. I didn't add/remove anything to the PC. So I had to RMA it. It has been three weeks now, I haven't got it back yet. I dropped it to their office, so there was no shipping delay. They don't answer my email now...

I've used more than 10 different motherboards in the past 10 years. Only two died, both are MSI boards. Maybe I was just lucky? but their service also sucks... just like the quality of the boards. so think again if you want to buy.

I had to RMA my board due to a faultly PCIe video card slot. It took about 3 weeks (which is how long they told me it would take), but I got it back just fine. Here's a link for online RMA tracking in the U.S.

 

[ironman108]

First I would like to thank you all, thread has been a great reference for me.

I hope someone can help with a few issues I have. They don't happen at regular intervals so its hard for me to track down the problem.

1) My display will become garbled forcing me to reboot then it is fine. Could this be my monitor? Its brand new. It seems to be happening more often.

2) PCAlert warns me my CPU fan speed is low (set at 950 rpm) but SpeedFan was reading fine (@2700rpm). I would have chalked it up to a glitch but the other day SpeedFan warned me and PCAlert read OK.

3) Just a noob question about overclocking: If my CPU is Prime stable for 12 hours at the bios highest setting and capable of more, how does "Use a little lower value as the default accounting for temperature differentials and voltage fluctuations overtime" apply to my setup?

MSI K8NGM2-FID
MSI BIOS 3.50
AMD Opteron 170 overclocked to 2.48 GHz
prime stable for 12 hrs
G.Skill DDR-400 2x1GB
Onboard graphic
Hanns.G HW191D DVI
OCZ GameXStreme 600W

Thank You in advance for your help.

 

[avi85]

Originally posted by: ironman108
First I would like to thank you all, thread has been a great reference for me.

I hope someone can help with a few issues I have. They don't happen at regular intervals so its hard for me to track down the problem.

1) My display will become garbled forcing me to reboot then it is fine. Could this be my monitor? Its brand new. It seems to be happening more often.

2) PCAlert warns me my CPU fan speed is low (set at 950 rpm) but SpeedFan was reading fine (@2700rpm). I would have chalked it up to a glitch but the other day SpeedFan warned me and PCAlert read OK.

3) Just a noob question about overclocking: If my CPU is Prime stable for 12 hours at the bios highest setting and capable of more, how does "Use a little lower value as the default accounting for temperature differentials and voltage fluctuations overtime" apply to my setup?

MSI K8NGM2-FID
MSI BIOS 3.50
AMD Opteron 170 overclocked to 2.48 GHz
prime stable for 12 hrs
G.Skill DDR-400 2x1GB
Onboard graphic
Hanns.G HW191D DVI
OCZ GameXStreme 600W

Thank You in advance for your help.

1. As far as the first problem being the display, next time it happens turn off the monitor and then turn it back on again and see if the problem is still there.

2. These programs update themselves at different intervals, and your sensor might be sending incorrect info for just a tenth of a second so if a program were to check just then, then it would see that speed (of course your fan could be slowing down then speeding up for a fraction of a second but I have never seen it happen that fast), I have had the same problem in reverse, sometimes (mainly when I lower the fan speed through a controller) my fanspeed will be reported in the hundreds of thousands for a second and then it will drop back down to normal (I'm pretty sure that it's just the sensor sending a number with a decimal point and the comp ignoring the decimal point)

3. Use clockgen to bring it up a few more MHz once you get into windows and then check stability.

Good Luck,
Avi

 

[RishiK]

hey guys...are there any known issues with the k8mgm2 fid n leadtek 7600gt??

 

[pctwo]

yikes, trouble in paradise. after 1 yr of use, all of a sudden, my k8nmg2-fid doesn't boot up. Power is on, it accesses the dvd, then nothing. no bios screen, no boot. I hit the reset a few times. Turn off, turn on. I hit the reset switch on the mobo. I turn off, turn on. After a few times, it boots for no reason I can see (I haven't done anything differently). But once in a while, when it boots to windows, the screen is a complete mess. DVI monitor. I have to reboot.

I did O/C my X2 3800+ to 2.4 and it ran fine. Running stock now.

If I go into the BIOS setup and change anything , like boot order, when I hit F10 and save, it freezes.

If I restart windows, I have to go throught the whole routine again. It seems pretty hit and miss whether it'll boot.

I check my HD with speedfan. Reports 100% fitness, 97% performance. I've been running dual prime for 2 hrs now with no prob.

I'm afraid to turn off the computer now since I don't know if it'll come back up. This is my work comp and I need it running.

I checked all connections, made sure nothing is touching the mobo to cause a short.

msi tech support tells me it could be psu or memory or mobo and I need to swap out known working component to know. But seems to me it's the mobo. what do you think?

edit: I reflashed the bios (3.5 ) too. same problem.

 

[ironman108]

Thanks for the quick response avi85.

I tried turning off the monitor no luck. The last time I noticed Windows freezing up just before it happened.

Thanks again for the help.

MSI K8NGM2-FID
MSI BIOS 3.50
AMD Opteron 170 overclocked to 2.48 GHz
prime stable for 12 hrs
G.Skill DDR-400 2x1GB
Onboard graphic
Hanns.G HW191D DVI
OCZ GameXStreme 600W

 

[cupajava]

Originally posted by: pctwo
yikes, trouble in paradise. after 1 yr of use, all of a sudden, my k8nmg2-fid doesn't boot up. Power is on, it accesses the dvd, then nothing. no bios screen, no boot. I hit the reset a few times. Turn off, turn on. I hit the reset switch on the mobo. I turn off, turn on. After a few times, it boots for no reason I can see (I haven't done anything differently). But once in a while, when it boots to windows, the screen is a complete mess. DVI monitor. I have to reboot.

I did O/C my X2 3800+ to 2.4 and it ran fine. Running stock now.

If I go into the BIOS setup and change anything , like boot order, when I hit F10 and save, it freezes.

If I restart windows, I have to go throught the whole routine again. It seems pretty hit and miss whether it'll boot.

I check my HD with speedfan. Reports 100% fitness, 97% performance. I've been running dual prime for 2 hrs now with no prob.

I'm afraid to turn off the computer now since I don't know if it'll come back up. This is my work comp and I need it running.

I checked all connections, made sure nothing is touching the mobo to cause a short.

msi tech support tells me it could be psu or memory or mobo and I need to swap out known working component to know. But seems to me it's the mobo. what do you think?

edit: I reflashed the bios (3.5 ) too. same problem.

Sound like a memory problem to me. Have you run memtest yet? While testing try one stick at a time as well.

 

[pctwo]

yes I tried 1 mem stick at a time and ran memtest. I think the mobo is going bad.

i can still boot into windows after several power on/off tries. But now I'm reduced to running at 1280x720 res otherwise I get corrupted display. (my lcd can do up to 16somethingx1050.)

I can't find the -FID anywhere. I guess I'd get to get a -NBP and lose firewire and components out. does anyone know if the -NBP has the same overclocking features at least? thanks

 

[mrnuxi]

pctwo --
As others have pointed out, a worthy successor to the K8NGM2-FID is the ABIT NF-M2:

ABIT NF-M2

You might want to check it out. The only ommission over the fid is no Svideo out.

--mrnuxi

 

[pctwo]

thanks, mrnuxi, but i have a 939 cpu and 2x1gb ddr memory already.

 

[Syrus]

I have some troubles when overclocking my system (K8NGM2-FID, Athlon64 3200+ Venice E6, 2x512MB RAM):

BIOS 3.50
DDR voltage - default (2.55V)
all RAM settings - auto (only Memclock Value changed manualy)
CPU to NB Frequency: [800 MHz]
NB to SB Frequency: [800 MHz]
CPU to NB LinkWidth: [16 UP 16 DOWN]

- if I set Memclock Value: [200 MHz] or [auto], I can reach max. 215 FSB (stable), also RAM freq is 215MHz (3,4,4,8)
- if I set Memclock Value: [166 MHz] - max. 220 FSB, RAM 183-184MHz (2.5,3,3,7)
- if I set Memclock Value: [133 MHz] - max. 232 FSB, RAM 153-154MHz (2,3,3,6)
otherwise (at greater frequencies), the system doesn't start at all, I need to push the "red button" on the board to reset the BIOS settings

I think that MB can hold even 240MHz w/o problems, but what is the trouble that I can't start the system with Memclock Value = 166 and FSB=230???
my RAM modules are GOODRAM ones (value memory), SPD 2,3,3,6@133/ 2.5,3,3,7@166/3,4,4,8@200

Say, I set Memclock Value = 166 and FSB = 230: I shoud obtain a 2300MHz CPU, 230FSB and ~192MHz RAM (a normal freq., even for value RAM) ... but that doesn't work

**added**
I tried to set FSB 248MHz and Memclock Value = 100, and "voila", now I'm editing this message working at a 2480MHz CPU (FSB=248, HT Link=992), but my RAM has very poor freq: 124MHz [2,2,2,5] (~3400MB/s read; ~1350MB/s write) when @200MHz I had ~5100 read and ~1800 write ... very poor

the only thing that is good: at 2480MHz CPU and with "Smart FAN"=ON(50%) t(CPU)=33c (ambient=27c) 0% load and 42c when loaded 90-100%

so, it's 100% true that my MB and CPU work fine @248MHz; the only problem is RAM - it should also work properly at Memclock Value = 166, but it doesn't even work at 133 ... "what to do?", that's the question

can somebody help me? please write what settings need to be changed/set ...

 

[renethx]

pctwo

How about Foxconn 6150K8MD-8EKRSH? It comes with all the features FID has, plus Vcore adjustment. (You need to buy an S/PDIF bracket, though.)

A review is here: TweakTown ? Foxconn Winfast 6150K8MD Motherboard ? HTPC users dream?