The *Official* MSI K8NGM2-FID GeForce 6150 Motherboard Thread

[RjG]

I vaguely remember a few posts about that issue somewhere back in this thread. I assume you've tried draining the cmos and juggling around the ram. I also remember some posts where people tried to upgrade memory, and then the board wouldn't boot until they only booted with a single ram stick installed, and then after that boot they could install the other stick. Did you try to see if even the boot block (bios recovery mode) would boot? Although it is probably not a bios issue, it does sound like a hardware problem. Sounds like something in the power circuit. Caps can also go bad by simply drying out with no change in appearance.

yep, going back there were several people with this problem. I tried clearing cmos, battery, power supply, 5 kinds of ram in the first slot, hooking a floppy to it for recovery mode, changing the cpu, and tried booting with a PCI and and a PCI Express video card installed.
I even reflashed the bios using my other FID (hotswap flash).

The board is totally recapped with rubycon caps, it made no difference.

I agree, it's probably a regulator or something dumb making it dead...

 

[Daveyb]

Hello

Got a few problems with my board, wondering if anyone has any ideas of the problem.
Firstly there seems to be some sort of compatability issue with the new ATI hd4550 graphics card i got to decode h.264. Can't get the hardware decoding to work, I got a black screen when i tried to play mpeg2 files using windows 7 codecs and it has been suggested to me that it could be because of my motherboard.

Secondly, I have tried putting my Nvidia 7600 card back in to my machine, but can't get the mb to recognise it, even when booting it just says that these is no signal. The graphics card fan starts up so i assume it is inserted correctly. When i put my ati card back in it works (apart from the mpeg problem i said about earlier). Have tested the nvidia card on another machine and it works fine.

Is my motherboard trying to tell me it is time to retire?

 

[xizor]

I have an odd issue I'm experiencing. I'm upgrading an older computer with this motherboard. It had 2x512Mb DDR400 and I just added 2x1GB DDR400 as well as a Nvidia GT240 1GB PCIE video card. Everything worked great with 2x512Mb RAM + 1x1Gb RAM and the video card. But as soon as I added the last stick of ram (3GB total), the video card was no longer detected. Win7 32bit gave a resource conflict in the pci-to-pci bridge and shows no display adaptor at all (goes into VGAsave mode with a hidden adaptor), going to display adaptors settings shows all unknowns/unavailable. Dropping down to 2.5Gb of system RAM brings things back to normal.

I've seen some posts that indicate that the system will experience system resource conflicts if the combined system RAM + video RAM is over 3.5 (32bit max). This seems to be the problem I'm having, but I have other newer AMD boards with no such issue. Is this a flaw of this motherboard or chipset?

 

[bigsnyder]

@Daveyb

The h.264 issue probably has nothing to do with the motherboard. I have seen others report a similiar issue on a variety of motherboards. Try the video card sub forum or take a browse over at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=26/. I fairly certain that is a software issue. As far as switching back to the nvidia card, did you try using something like driver sweeper? Probably some ATI bit interfering with the board recognizing the nvidia card.

 

[bigsnyder]

@xizor

It is a limitation of the board I believe. I am using 4GB of ram which windows MCE2005 only recognizes 3.25GB, but my video ram is only 512MB. However, everything runs as it should. There might be some overhead of about 256MB associated with either the PCI-E bus or the video card, otherwise I would probably run into the same resource conflict. That is my educated guess anyway.

 

[laptop123]

Overclockers? :awe: Athlon 64 Single Core

This is for a A64 4000+ San Diego single core setup on this board with 4 GB KVR value memory (Kingston KVR400X64C3A 1GB in DIMM1, DIMM2, DIMM3, and DIMM4)

DRAM CLOCK ALWAYS RUNS AT 333 MHZ WITH ALL 4 DIMM SLOTS FULL, THIS IS A LIMITATION OF A ATHLON 64 MEMORY CONTROLLER.

Bios v3.80 Settings that differ from Defaults for best performance:
CPU-LDT Frequency: 227 Mhz (stable MemTest for 4 hours and counting...)
CPU to NB Frequency: 1000 MHz
NB to SB Frequency: 1000 MHz
CPU to NB LinkWidth: 16↓16↑
Hardware Memory Hole: Enable
User Config mode: Preamble: 7.0 ns
User Config mode: Latency: 8.0 ns
Adjust DDR Voltage (V): 2.65V (go more if you have performance ram and good cooler. Try setting CMD-ADDR to 1T, otherwise use 2T)
ALL OTHER MEM AND CPU SETTINGS: Use Defaults (Auto or whatever else)
Spread Spectrum: Disable all 3.
On-Chip IDE Controller: Primary (assuming running SATA HDD and only one IDE channel needed)


Other system setup knowledge I just learning:
For PCIe compatibility with v2.0 PCIe cards, you must enable OnBoard VGA & set memory to that VGA (I used only 16MB OnChip VGA Frame Buffer Size). Set Primary Graphics Adapter=PCI Express. Windows 7 will now recognizer new(er) PCIe graphics cards. Don't try PCIe v2.1 or v3.0 cards I highly doubt they work on this motherboard.



To read more on the DRAM Clock 333 MHz downclock:
http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=22&threadid=89726

Setting Preamble and other memory timing for KVR RAM:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/2g-kingston-kvr-good.12787

DDR Memory Guide:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=98317.0

Windows 7 (64-bit drivers) advice:
nForce 410/430: Use MSI's Live Update 6 Recommended MCP Driver
nVidia GeForce 6100: Disable (not Uninstall) in Device Manger
Realtek HD Audio: Use Realtek "Codec" download on their site. MSI download is junk. I think ALC880 is the built in audio hardware.