The *Official* MSI K8NGM2-FID GeForce 6150 Motherboard Thread

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renethx

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Originally posted by: peter236
Can this board support 1 terabyte drives? I tried to install windows xp on this board, but it would not reboot.
I have been using three 1TB drives (WD and Samsung) with no problem. But they are data drives.
 

peter236

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I also set it to "auto" at the place where you can set it. However, it says "off" at the boot screen.
 

Ivan05

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No problems with my terabyte drive here. Have had it installed for 3 or 4 months now.

My biggest problem of late has been constant (well, almost constant) BSOD. nvxxx.sys seems to be the culprit. xxx - you fill in the blanks, as several of the Nvidia drivers seem to be the issue. I've tried upgrading but that hasn't done any good. It actually seems to have been the cause of the problem. Was real stable until I updated the drivers a while back. Now, I can't find the archived ones that were stable. Google search reveals this seems to be a common problem with Nvidia's drivers, but no solution that seems to work for me.

Any thoughts?
 

renethx

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I updated the original post using vBulletin's BB Code for better readability. :) There is no change in contents.
 

RjG

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Wow renethx, I wasn't expecting any action at all here, by now :)


Both of my FID boards are dead now, from blown caps behind the CPU.

I am going to try re-capping them though. I thought they were 1800 microfarad 6.3v - but it appears 3300 seems to be the value floating around for replacing them?
 

RjG

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... answering my own question - I also have an Asus A8N-VM (6150) here,
and it only uses 1500 microfarad caps by the CPU. ( and they are still good )

Both my MSI K8NGM2-FID boards, V1 and V2, have 3300 microfarad caps.
They are popping / swelling / oozing.

The MSI supplied caps are twice the size, but 1/2 the quality I guess.
 

aslg

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I just install Vista SP2 on the K8NGM2-FID board.
What stable drivers did you install on it?
I saw 2006 old drivers on the MSI support page and newer drivers on Windows Update. Not sure what is better to install.
Any recommendation?
 

commish361

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It has always been my experience that the vendor's driver's work better and Microsoft's aren't always as current. Sometimes that has do do with certification and sometimes they are just behind. If you did not install a video card, here are the links to Nvidia 64bit and 32bit video drivers respectively: (Version 196.21 dated January 19, 2010)
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_64bit_196.21_whql.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_32bit_196.21_whql.html
Additionally, my experience has been that the Realtek drivers (for both Audio and LAN) have performed better than those found on Windows Update.
Bottom line, though, it is always your choice. My board has been extremely solid and is running extremely well with Windows 7 64bit.
Good Luck!
 

Ksyder

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Just realized that this is the thread that caused me to register on this board.

Never ended up getting one of this model, though. Opted for the Foxconn equivalent. What a POS that ended up being. Not really sure why. The board was horrible. Bluescreens off and on for YEARS. But was fast when it worked.
 

rgmiller

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It has always been my experience that the vendor's driver's work better and Microsoft's aren't always as current. Sometimes that has do do with certification and sometimes they are just behind. If you did not install a video card, here are the links to Nvidia 64bit and 32bit video drivers respectively: (Version 196.21 dated January 19, 2010)
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_64bit_196.21_whql.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_32bit_196.21_whql.html
Additionally, my experience has been that the Realtek drivers (for both Audio and LAN) have performed better than those found on Windows Update.
Bottom line, though, it is always your choice. My board has been extremely solid and is running extremely well with Windows 7 64bit.
Good Luck!


I just upgraded to Windows 7 but I'm having a few issues. They aren't consistent so I can't determine the cause.

I would appreciate information about your setup with Windows 7 (bios, drivers, RAM, etc.).

Thank you in advance.
 

commish361

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rgmiller:
My original response was to aslg, but I have no way of knowing if he got the information. I'm glad to respond to your request and there is quite a bit of information. I'll attempt to make it as brief as possible. First, the setup is very simple: K8NGM2-fid; AMD 3200+ CPU (stock cooler); 2GB (2X1GB) Super Talent DDR400 in DIMMs 1&3; Asus Radeon HD3850 Video Card (not in my original configuration); Samsung SH-S223L DVD/RW; Maxtor 200GB SATA HDD; CNet Plus 200 Network Interface Card (PCI-E). Contained in HTPC case Apevia X500 with 500 watt Power Supply.
Did a clean install of Windows 7 and ran for a few days with NVidia 6150 on board video using the driver from the NVidia site (Current is 196.21 dated 1-19-2010) and the driver supports all the 6150 series.
Explanation for the NIC being on the PCI-E is that lightning took out my on-board LAN a couple of years ago. That's another selling point for this old board. After thorough testing, the LAN port was all that was bad. This is likely one device which I can't help with, but the Windows 7 drivers will automatically load usually. My NIC driver is the stock one which came with it.
CPU/Chipset Driver is Microsoft dated 6-21-2006; 6.1.7600.16385.
DDR400 Memory at 2.6 volts.
BIOS v02.59
Identify any other issues and I'll get back to you as soon as I can.
After installing the Video Card, disabled on board and am running AMD driver package 10.1.
I hope this helps and glad to see someone else is still using this board.
 

rgmiller

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commish361:
I appreciate the help. It is good to know that there are some of these still alive and in use in the world.

I'm trying some different drivers based on your info. I originally let Windows 7 handle it which mostly worked fine with these exceptions:

- CPU Usage will sometimes stick at 100%
- Physical Memory will sometimes creep up to 96% and bog down the system (even when I'm just using a browser)
- Sometimes will not shut down (I suspect one of the above issues is the cause)
- I have to reset my network connection to get it to connect (every time, but I don't think has to do with the board)
- Display driver would crash randomly

I'm not familiar with BIOS v02.59. Is Cool'n'Quiet working for you? I'm using BIOS v03.50 debating an update to v03.70

Thank you for the time.

K8NGM2-FID, Opteron 170 overclocked, G.Skill 2GB, onboard video, Seagate 320GB SATA HD, Benq DVD/RW, OCZ 600w power supply
 

8t7vette

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Make a long story short: I purchased a Sapphire Vapor-X HD 5750 video card and no matter what I do the PC will not post when the 5750 is in the PCI-E slot.

After trying in another computer with an MSI K9AG Neo2-Digital AM2 that PC will post and windows sees a "vga card". This PC also had a 520W PS unit.

After purchasing a Seasonic Gold X-650 for my PC (thinking the "520w" lower brand unit I had wasn't up to snuff), the results were the same.

I can however at any point reinsert my ATI Radeon X1300 Pro ino the PCI-E slot and it will post and everything is fine.

After looking around now I see mentions in forums of "users with N-force 4 chipsets being unable to use ATI HD 5xxx video cards". The context I see is someones post of problems trying to get it to post and a reply(s) somewhere in the thread of "I researched this and you are not alone...there are postings all over other forums of others with nforce4 based MB's having trouble with HD 5xxx cards".

I haven't found much in the way of "these postings all over the internet", but I think I share my problem and symptoms with others. I also appears this is not limited to MSI, but does include multiple MB vendors who at least utilized n-force 4 chipsets.

This being the official forum for the K8NGM2-FID and not seeing anything about this here, I figured I would start this. Possibly we could get MSI to release a BIOS update if that is what is in order.
 

yauka

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Dear xxx,

Thank you for contacting MSI Technical Support.

About your issue, there may be compatibility between HD5670 and MS7207G. But MS7207G has been phased out, we have stopped maintenance for this motherboard, and will not update bios for it. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

Best regards,
MSI Technical Support Team
 

RjG

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There were a pile of posts a while back about the FID just going dead, with the power led blinking slowly.

One of my FIDs just did this...

No post, no beeps, no fans, just blinking power LED

Already tried swapping the power supply, cpu, and ram, and hitting the bios reset button a couple dozen times.

Did anyone ever figure out what causes it, or the solution?
 

wwswimming

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There were a pile of posts a while back about the FID just going dead, with the power led blinking slowly.

One of my FIDs just did this...

No post, no beeps, no fans, just blinking power LED

Already tried swapping the power supply, cpu, and ram, and hitting the bios reset button a couple dozen times.

Did anyone ever figure out what causes it, or the solution?

battery ?
 

RjG

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battery ?

Tried that too, no luck


To clarify - when you turn on the POWER SUPPLY, the case power LED immediately starts blinking slowly. Pressing the "ON" button makes no difference at all.

The only thing I didn't replace is the FID at this point. The board was recapped a while ago.
 

RjG

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Tried that too, no luck


To clarify - when you turn on the POWER SUPPLY, the case power LED immediately starts blinking slowly. Pressing the "ON" button makes no difference at all.

The only thing I didn't replace is the FID at this point. The board was recapped a while ago.

Well , one of my FID boards survived with a recap, typing on it now.

Other one is history - it has new caps but is still dead as a doornail with no post at all, and the long blinking mysterious LED...

That one is now replaced (HTPC) with an Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 with a phenomII
OMG - what an amazing board... 1080P H264 at 1% CPU. Wow.

I think I'm all alone now on this thread. Crappy caps killed most of the FIDS now I imagine. Sad... was (still would be) a pretty decent board. Shame on you MSI for cheaping out on $1.30 worth of better capacitors...
 

blimey

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I finally had the time today to replace the five 3300uf capacitors on my K8NGM2-FID motherboard. I'm quite experienced with desoldering/soldering, but still this repair required quite a bit of time in order to do a careful and quality repair.

A tip to anyone else considering this repair; the original caps (Nippon ChemiCon NCC KZG 6.3V 3300uf Ultra Low ESR) are good quality parts, but apparently they don't take well to the heat present so very close to the CPU socket.

I used, and recommend, "Rubycon MBZ 6.3V 3300UF Ultra Low ESR" as replacements, since they are reported to take the heat much better.

Both of the above Nippon ChemiCon and the Rubycon caps can be somewhat hard to find in small quantities. The Hong Kong based ebay seller linked to in this thread a few pages back no longer lists on ebay, but has moved to ioffer. It takes a couple of weeks to get the parts to the US from Hong Kong.

Anyway, my FID is back up and running well. Despite the capacitor issue, it is still a great board.
 

RjG

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I finally had the time today to replace the five 3300uf capacitors on my K8NGM2-FID motherboard. ...<snip>... my FID is back up and running well. Despite the capacitor issue, it is still a great board.

Wow, that was Nov 2008 you posted your cap problems, LOL

Glad it came back for you though :)

The one FID I recapped, I'm typing on it now, it's still running great.

I sure wish somebody knew what the long slow blinking power LED is though.
My other FID, even recapped, still will only do this. No CPU fan, no beeps, no nothing.
 

blimey

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I sure wish somebody knew what the long slow blinking power LED is though.
My other FID, even recapped, still will only do this. No CPU fan, no beeps, no nothing.

I vaguely remember a few posts about that issue somewhere back in this thread. I assume you've tried draining the cmos and juggling around the ram. I also remember some posts where people tried to upgrade memory, and then the board wouldn't boot until they only booted with a single ram stick installed, and then after that boot they could install the other stick. Did you try to see if even the boot block (bios recovery mode) would boot? Although it is probably not a bios issue, it does sound like a hardware problem. Sounds like something in the power circuit. Caps can also go bad by simply drying out with no change in appearance.