Is mine the only one that beeps on startup when initializing usb, ram, devices on the first screen? Do later bios versions fix this?
I just got my board on Sat (didn't know Fedex delivered on Saturdays) from ZZF. The board states it is v2.0 and I also received the combo audio bracket with SPDIF in/out connector attached.
The manual hasn't been updated.
Renethx, does the "219 fsb limit" bug exist on this board when overclocking with a winchester core like all MSI NF4 boards?
First I?d like to thank renethx and all contributors to this thread for making this do-able for a noob like me.
I?m compelled to make a short compilation of information posted w/in this thread that may be of help to other noobs (as it helped me). Sometimes it?s difficult to find or remember info when it?s buried in 23 pages of posts.
I?m compelled to make a short compilation of information posted w/in this thread that may be of help to other noobs (as it helped me). Sometimes it?s difficult to find or remember info when it?s buried in 23 pages of posts.
- To run 2 memory DIMMs in dual channel, use slot #1 (green) and slot #2 (purple). See also K8NGM2 manual p. 2-7. Placing the DIMMs in slots of the same color will result in single channel thus dropping your DRAM Frequency to ~166 MHz. Any attempts to use renethx overclocking recipes with the DIMMs in single channel may cause your system to fail to POST (as it did for me).
- On the topic of ?failure to POST??the Clear CMOS Button is your friend. See also K8NGM2 manual p. 2-24.
- When following the overclocking recipe instructions, it is possible for your FSB to get stuck at a frequency (mine stuck at 242 as I was incrementally increasing it per the recipe). As noted by HungryJOe, powering down your machine for 5 minutes may resolve the issue and allow you to proceed on to 244 and above (as it did for me and JOe).
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Well this is weird, I just installed my MSI K8NGM2-FID into my QPack and it won't detect any SATA HDDs at all.
Tried different drives, SATA cables, power cables, and SATA ports.
I will go through and check the thread but if anybody has seen similar issues please LMK.
Thanks
Tried different drives, SATA cables, power cables, and SATA ports.
I will go through and check the thread but if anybody has seen similar issues please LMK.
Thanks
weird. speedfan doesn't recognize any temp sensors on this board when it detected the 6150/430 foxconn with aplomb.
derekn,
My Western Digital WD2500KS (SATA II) drives have been working very well in RAID 1 on the MSI K8NGM2-FID board. No data corruption problems to report.
Hj,
I am glad to hear the high CPU usage problem is fixed for you as well.
I haven't had any slowness issues going into Standby with this computer. However, on a couple of older systems I remember having conflicts between Norton and Zone Alarm which caused Standby or Shutdown to go very slowly. I played around with msconfig to selectively turn off programs on startup to figure out which ones were the problem.
Also, on this board my system has been very stable once I installed XP AFTER setting up the BIOS the way I liked it (i.e. cool&quite + Standby S3 were turned ON before I re-installed XP). Since re-installing XP, I haven't had a BSD since January. So now that Stand By is working, I don't have anything to complain about with this board.
hey guys, i'm getting 45-50c idle in v3.00 with a 3700 in an x-qpack. is this too high or low? do later bios version 'corrections' lower or raise the temp measurements?
Two 7200.9 Seagate 300 GB SataII raid on mine, no issues.
I turned off TCQ, which was the "fix" on the NF4 boards, just to be safe.
Then I copied many hundreds and hundreds of gigs around, back and forth off my IDE
drives, did a binary compare, and everything was cool
Curious - I just got my reply from MSI and they say that V2 is the NBP board.... (and that ~JLPC1 is for forcing programming the BIOS).
Allen
RjG,
Thanks for your feedback.
I read that turning off NCG and disabling SATA II is the workaround.
I talked to Seagate support and they sent me the updated firmware for these drives.
Mine came with 3.AAD and I got the most recent 3.AAE firmware. What firmware do you have on your drives?
I haven't set it up fully yet been doing background researching and making room for this new machine....
-derek
any news on when this will get supported in speedfan? it seems to support the foxconn board.
...does anyone's mobo beep on startup when initializing usb etc? 1-2-3 beeps? they're not post errors.
...does anyone's mobo beep on startup when initializing usb etc? 1-2-3 beeps? they're not post errors.
HJ, what's your HD temp on startup. I also have the KS and it's 46C according to speedfan and CheckHDTemp. That's rather high. My old Barracuda is like 35. S.M.A.R.T. reports the drive is fine otherwise.
I didn't upgrade the firmware, it's whatever they came with.
The option is TCQ, on the controller properties in device manager. (Tagged command queuing?) Turn that off.
The drives work way faster when it's off anyway, so safer = faster in this case.
This does NOT disable SATA II. (use HDTACH to watch the transfer rates)
NF430 is a different beast than NF4, so it's entirely possible that this bug doesn't even exist on our boards. But like I said, it's much faster anyway with it off, so why not
Well this board if the FID, I have firewire/gigabyte lan, etc. and all the FID options. The version # on the board say 2.0.
Originally posted by: RjG
I didn't upgrade the firmware, it's whatever they came with.
The option is TCQ, on the controller properties in device manager. (Tagged command queuing?) Turn that off.
The drives work way faster when it's off anyway, so safer = faster in this case.
This does NOT disable SATA II. (use HDTACH to watch the transfer rates)
NF430 is a different beast than NF4, so it's entirely possible that this bug doesn't even exist on our boards. But like I said, it's much faster anyway with it off, so why not
RjG,
I guess NCQ (native command queuing) is the same thing as TCQ that I was reading about disabling on other forums.
Thanks for the tip on HDTACH.
NF430 chipset that's right, I keep thinking it's NF4 chipset. Its more like a "derivative" of the NF4 chipset.
-derek
Nvidia:
"SATA 3Gb/s
Take advantage of the latest SATA-2 3Gb/s hard disk drives with full support for native and tagged command queuing, and for hot plug. For those who may not know Tagged Command Queueing (TCQ) allows the kernel to send several asynchronous requests at once to a block device. The device can service the requests as it sees fit; the advantage being that the device can arrange the transfers as best suits the device hardware. TCQ works for both reads and writes. On the other hand, Native command queuing provides higher disk performance in a multi-threaded environment by performing out-of-order disk accesses"
What does that mean? Who knows.... TCQ is the kernal side of NCQ? Or maybe they are independent, depends how you interpret that. TCQ is the one to turn off though.
"SATA 3Gb/s
Take advantage of the latest SATA-2 3Gb/s hard disk drives with full support for native and tagged command queuing, and for hot plug. For those who may not know Tagged Command Queueing (TCQ) allows the kernel to send several asynchronous requests at once to a block device. The device can service the requests as it sees fit; the advantage being that the device can arrange the transfers as best suits the device hardware. TCQ works for both reads and writes. On the other hand, Native command queuing provides higher disk performance in a multi-threaded environment by performing out-of-order disk accesses"
What does that mean? Who knows.... TCQ is the kernal side of NCQ? Or maybe they are independent, depends how you interpret that. TCQ is the one to turn off though.
With the PSU on properly, getting 40C idle, 55C load (haven't tested for certain by gaming though) but holy hell is PC Alert 4 the worst piece of crap ever...
those temps should be acceptable since i'm running everything undervolted for silence.
I hope Speedfan supports this board soon.
those temps should be acceptable since i'm running everything undervolted for silence.
I hope Speedfan supports this board soon.
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