The *Official* MSI K8NGM2-FID GeForce 6150 Motherboard Thread

[cvince86]

is it? I swear I've read the first post thoroughly, and I can't find any way to get it working.

Are you running it faster than 250mhz?

 

[avi85]

Originally posted by: cvince86
is it? I swear I've read the first post thoroughly, and I can't find any way to get it working.

Are you running it faster than 250mhz?

I personally am not running it faster than 250MHz but it was mentioned somewhere in the thread that although later versions of clockgen won't work, version 1.0.4.2 seems to work with this board.

 

[BernardP]

I don't think this has been posted here before, so here goes...

MSI has released a successor to the K8NGM2 and K9MGM2: the K9MGM3:

Here is a review on Digit-Life: Link

Looks good, well built, overclockable, but only HDMI output, no DVI.

 

[bigsnyder]

That's pretty minor. Nothing a good cable from monoprice.com can't fix.

One thing that does annoy me, probably not a problem for most, no serial
port. I know some high-end home theater (and home automation) equipment
support RS232 connections. There is certainly plenty of room on the backplane.

 

[renethx]

Use a serial-USB dongle, or use a serial port bracket (K9NGM3 has an internal serial port header):

? Cables to Go DB9M Serial Add-A-Port Adapter with Bracket for Intel Motherboards Straight-through

or use

? FRONTX SERIAL 9 PIN INTERNAL V1

 

[bigsnyder]

Yeah, that would certainly work. My complaint is if there's space on the backplane, why not use it?
I personally feel like I'm missing something or feel cheated when backplanes have big gaps or not
fully utilitized. Silly I'm sure, but thats just me.

 

[carefreepastor]

Can I use AMD X2 6000+ with this board?

 

[renethx]

Originally posted by: carefreepastor
Can I use AMD X2 6000+ with this board?

Which board are you talking about? You can't use X2 6000 (Socket AM2) with K8NGM2 (Socket 939). You can't use it with K9NGM3 either (CPU Support List).

 

[carefreepastor]

Sorry. I saw the post by BernardP, 8/23, about the possible successor to the K8NGM2, the K9NGM3, and did not make clear I was referring to that newer board. On the same page to which you linked, I noticed that the 5600 was OK, so I was checking to see if anyone had tried the 89W version of the 6000. I notice that the page said that it was "under testing."

 

[pound]

Hi, This is a great thread! Thank you renethx for the wealth of info. I have learned more reading your intro than all of the time spent fumbling through the MSI site.

 

[pound]

HI,

I have a question about upgrading my BIOS. The BIOS that shipped from emachines is stripped down, without any control of CPU, memory, or GPU, all of which would be helpful in the upgrade.

Is there a reason that I shouldn't use a BIOS from MSI that would give me more control?

The BIOS installed now is A7207NE7 ver.1.14 080012 6/7/06.
At the emachines site an older BIOS is suggested, A7207NE7.117 03/10/2006?
At the MSI site the latest BIOS is AMT - A7207NMS ver. 3.70.

I have also tried to find a BIOS at AMT. They what $49.59!!! from a place called eSupport.com.

Thank you

 

[cybermaster178]

Hi all!
Any idea where I can get drivers for this board for Windows 98SE?
I'm a Win98 fanatic, and the driver CD is of absolutely no help :thumbsdown:
Thanks!

 

[renethx]

NOTE: Because of the limitations of chipset, this MB does not support 98/ME.

http://global.msi.com.tw/index...no=1&cat2_no=&cat3_no=

The latest (or older) chipset drivers are available from the NVIDIA site. Unfortunately NVIDIA did not developed Win98 drivers for GeForce 6150 and nForce 430.

 

[pound]

Hi,

I just got new stuff for my system this morning.

I upgraded the on board 6100 video to an ASUS EN7300 silent 256MB DDR2 128 bit bus mostly to free up RAM and CPU resources. The card went in wonderfully, the BIOS and XP both found it right away and since I had the latest Nvidia drivers already installed I didn't have to use the install CD. Then I double sticked taped a fan to the heatsink for extra cooling.

I also installed a G.SKILL Value 1GB SDRAM DDR 400 Memory Model F1-3200PHU1-1GBNT into the ChA slot (green) and the existing 512MB DDR 400 into ChB (purple). The BIOS sees them both running at 400, so I am assuming that they are running in dual channel mode. I wrapped both with heat sinks. I improved the system RAM from 394MB to 1.5GB! More than enough for my needs. I am really happy with the noticeable performance gains!

I do hope that this improvement is lasting. So far I don't really see a need to update the BIOS, although I would like to have more function than the dumb downed emachines BIOS.

I have a question: I'm thinking of upgrading the CPU to a AMD Opteron 165 Denmark 1.8GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core. What is the recommended procedure? Is it simply to put the new CPU in the socket and then change the driver? Would I have to reinstall XP? Does the current BIOS, (A7207NE7 v.1.14 6/7/06), even support the Opteron 165?

Thanks

 

[cybermaster178]

@ renethx:
So that means I can't use '98 at all? Sad.
There aren't any unofficial drivers made by enthusiasts, are they?

 

[bigsnyder]

Did you actually try installing it? I see no reason why the default MS drivers shouldn't be able
to provide some basic functionality. If you are not in danger of losing anything important, it
wouldn't hurt to at least try. Maybe the old nforce2 drivers will work to some degree, you just
never know.

 

[skisteep]

I also have a MSI k8ngm2 mb and am having trouble getting my new 24 inch westinghouse lcd to work with my dvi/hdmi cord. It works on d-sub. But I dont know what to do to get it to go on dvi/hdmi. It sometimes powers up and says no signal connection. Everything is plugged in ok when I reboot. But nothing works, just black. On d-sub I can us it but want HD. Thanks everyone.

 

[skisteep]

Also want to make sure my gskill 2gb mem is working properly??

 

[RjG]

Originally posted by: skisteep
I also have a MSI k8ngm2 mb and am having trouble getting my new 24 inch westinghouse lcd to work with my dvi/hdmi cord. It works on d-sub. But I dont know what to do to get it to go on dvi/hdmi. It sometimes powers up and says no signal connection. Everything is plugged in ok when I reboot. But nothing works, just black. On d-sub I can us it but want HD. Thanks everyone.

Mine's been on DVI 1920x1200 since the day I got it many moons ago.
(I've tried the Y Pr PB , sVideo, and the VGA port as well, all work fine, actually)

I know that doesn't solve your problem, but it's good to know that it ought to work before beating your head against the wall... lol


So - regular suggestions would be to

1. FIRST - unplug the VGA and any TV outs you might have plugged in, and reboot with only the DVI attached, so you know the driver isn't detecting/switching to an output you aren't looking at.
2. check the settings of your panel, there's probably a MODE switch or something. My Dell has a non-descript little button on the front you have to push 5 times to switch between VGA and DVI.
3. try a different cable - "rent" one from Walmart if you need to, return it if it doesn't solve the problem ;-)
4. try someone else's panel with a DVI port, if that works, and try your panel on their computer to see if that works.

good luck

 

[RjG]

Originally posted by: skisteep
Also want to make sure my gskill 2gb mem is working properly??

instructions are at the beginning of this thread...
turn off "USB Legacy mode" in the bios setup
make a boot cd of MEMTEST86
attach a PS2 keyboard
run MEMTEST86 all night

EZ ;-)

 

[zephyrus]

I've had the following problems since I got this motherboard about a year ago and have been using it in my HTPC. I've tried multiple BIOSs and both winxp and vista, without a single change in the symptoms.

Probably about half the time, when I try to boot up the computer it will either boot up to a blank screen (the monitor just displays black) and beep once like normal, or it will not send a signal to the monitor (so the monitor displays "no input detected") with no beep. It also sometimes does not send a signal to the monitor after POSTing. I used to keep my HTPC on all the time so this wasn't a huge problem.

The second problem is that my computer refuses to go into hibernation or standby in either winxp or vista. When I try to do so, the computer will act like it's going into standby, and then just shut down. When I turn on the computer on, it boots up normally (doesn't resume from standby or anything). I have tried switching between S1 and S3 in BIOS and reinstalling the operating system, but that doesn't help. Someone posted earlier in the thread with what seemed to be this exact problem, but they never said what they did about it.

Other than these 2 problems the computer is 100% stable.

specs:
A64 3200+
k8ngm2
2x512mb ram
320gb WD sata2 hard drive
fusionhdtv 5 lite hdtv tuner
antec 420w psu (20 pin)

 

[RjG]

Changing the BIOS to S3 -before- installing XP is mandatory if you every want it to work right, so you're on the right track there. Dunno about Vista. Vista only survived on my box for 4 days, then I went back to XP. Didn't like it...

Standby does work perfect, I have two of these FID boxes. All the fans shut off, drives spin down, very nice.
On one I have the USB hack so the mouse wakes it up, and on the other one I left that off in case the mouse wiggles - I don't want that one waking up, so the power button wakes it.

So it DOES work. Now the trick is to find out what's causing yours to not work. Since it makes your computer dead powered off instead of staying in standby, try these:

1 make SURE your ram is in the slots closest to the cpu. Those are the ones they need to be in for standby

2 make sure your BIOS battery is not dead (I'm sure you would have told us if you were losing your BIOS settings too - but just thought I'd add that)

3 change your power supply, maybe the one you have doesn't work right in low power mode.

4 yank out every card, every usb device. Start with a ps/2 mouse and keyboard, and see if it works. Then start plugging everything back in one at a time to see when it stops working. Any component can interfere with Standby.

I'm betting on RAM or Power supply


** Dunno about Hybernation. I hate that, first thing I always do is turn that off.

 

[zephyrus]

1. check, ran memtest as well, and that checked out.
2. check
3. this was my biggest suspicion aside from there being a problem with the motherboard. I don't have another power supply to try out though :
4. already tried this.

 

[RjG]

If your P/S doesn't put out correct standby voltage then your computer will go dead in standby mode, that's why I bet on that one.

Power supplies are cheap, nice to have a spare anyway. Fortron or Sparkle 400w 120mm is about 30 bucks, very nice, quiet power supply
(Canada) www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11700AC6643&vpn=ATX-400-PN-B&manufacture=FORTRON SOURCE

 

[hyperdoggy]

Hey Guys, my system just failed to boot(no video, no post) all the sudden overnight, has this ever happen to anyone with this mobo? I just cleaned everything and re mount the cpu and is still the same. The hard drive light won't even blink and it normally does on boot although i can still power off the system by holding the power button for 10 second. I can't tell what broke, the cpu or the mobo. Does anyone have any insight on this issue?

MSI K8NGM2-FID
AMD OPTERON 144
1gig of ram cas 2.5
maxtor HDD 80gig
His 1650 pro 256mb (removed atm)