The *Official* Asus A7N8X (Deluxe) Thread

[magomago]

Bump - I'm hoping someone can help me out here because I get this error (though the actual numbers are always different) quite frequently with this ram and I'm wondering if its just horrible ram in the first place since It seems to be overclocked.

In the bios settings it reads it as 166mhz - but If i pick userdefined I find that 133mhz is 100% and 166mhz is 125%

but I picked 133mhz b/c I heard its better to run both ram and cpu syncronously

 

[CureMe]

 

[CureMe]

Hello everybody

Every time when I go to bios, even not changing anything in there,when I exit my monitor goes on standby for a split second, and then it goes back, displaying the POST info.

I just installed my friends OLD harddrive (Quantum Fireball 1200Megs) in the same rack I had WDC60Gig installed - (I'm using HD enclosure)

After booting to win98 startup disk I fdisked it and it asked me to reboot after creating a primary partition

After restarting my monitor never came on from standby. After I turned my PC completely off... waited a few second... and then on again - everything is fine

So I booted to BIOS and checked all my settings, just to make sure.
And when I hit "Save changes and exit", same thing happens - the computer restarts, fans are working HD is working but the monitor is not initializing.

So I panicked and put the WDC 60Gig back in place (thinking that the old Quantum might be causing the problem). But then again - same thing.

Then I tricked it by turning off and on, booted fine to XP. Restarted from XP just fine. After it restarted and stopped at the dual boot menu I CTRL+ALT+DELeted and it restarted fine again. So now to completely make sure I went to bios and "Save changes and exit" - and the monitor initialized fine
Now I'm affraid to put in that old HD back and still don't know what happened.
Could it really be the battery (cus when the HD change occured the BIOS had to save that change)

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My info :
A7N8X Deluxe
Crucial 512
WDC 60 Gig
Asus V9280S/TVD 128MB DDR Geforce 4 TI4200 AGP 8X

 

[Civic2oo1x]

Setup my computer and it's running flawlessly. Have 2 WD SE's 100 GB Hard drives in Raid 0. Had trouble setting it up at first as I had my other two HD's pulled in, but after installing my raid setup without having the other drives connected worked.

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: Civic2oo1x
Setup my computer and it's running flawlessly. Have 2 WD SE's 100 GB Hard drives in Raid 0. Had trouble setting it up at first as I had my other two HD's pulled in, but after installing my raid setup without having the other drives connected worked.

Did you buy EIDE2SATA cables or did you get a Raid Controller Card?

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: CureMe
Hello everybody

Every time when I go to bios, even not changing anything in there,when I exit my monitor goes on standby for a split second, and then it goes back, displaying the POST info.

I just installed my friends OLD harddrive (Quantum Fireball 1200Megs) in the same rack I had WDC60Gig installed - (I'm using HD enclosure)

After booting to win98 startup disk I fdisked it and it asked me to reboot after creating a primary partition

After restarting my monitor never came on from standby. After I turned my PC completely off... waited a few second... and then on again - everything is fine

So I booted to BIOS and checked all my settings, just to make sure.
And when I hit "Save changes and exit", same thing happens - the computer restarts, fans are working HD is working but the monitor is not initializing.

So I panicked and put the WDC 60Gig back in place (thinking that the old Quantum might be causing the problem). But then again - same thing.

Then I tricked it by turning off and on, booted fine to XP. Restarted from XP just fine. After it restarted and stopped at the dual boot menu I CTRL+ALT+DELeted and it restarted fine again. So now to completely make sure I went to bios and "Save changes and exit" - and the monitor initialized fine
Now I'm affraid to put in that old HD back and still don't know what happened.
Could it really be the battery (cus when the HD change occured the BIOS had to save that change)

-----------------------------------------------------
My info :
A7N8X Deluxe
Crucial 512
WDC 60 Gig
Asus V9280S/TVD 128MB DDR Geforce 4 TI4200 AGP 8X

I'm trying to remember if it was the A7N8X's where people recommended first Save the settings WITHOUT exiting, and then Save & Exit afterwards. You might want to update the BIOS to the 1002.01 Beta by putting it on a floppy (I recommend a full surface error check on the floppy so you know it's ok) and then holding down Alt + F2 keys at POST to start the built-in BIOS updater.

 

[bigpow]

BTW,

I've reached the 200MHz FSB as of today.

AthlonXP T-bred-A 1700+ at 9x200 @ Vcore = 1.675
DDR Timing = 6-3-3-3-2

Rock solid!

 

[bigpow]

Originally posted by: snidy
[(except everytime I shut it down, I have to do the power-on "trick")

What's the power on trick?

It's like this; see everytime I shut it down, it will not boot (no sound, no beep, no display)

At this point, I would press RESET and then hold POWER for 5sec (turn it off)
And then POWER on again.

It'd boot and BIOS would show 1100MHz (100MHz), then do F10 and Enter.

It'd boot into windows and stays stable until the next shutdown.

Are you having same problem?

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: bigpow
BTW,

I've reached the 200MHz FSB as of today.

AthlonXP T-bred-A 1700+ at 9x200 @ Vcore = 1.675
DDR Timing = 6-3-3-3-2

Rock solid!

Congrats!!!

I'm curious as to the ram you are using since i have the same processor

 

[Shockwave]

A copy and paste from my post in Geenral Hardware..Essentially, just cause you can up the FSb and pass all benchmark / stess tests, you may still get funny errros....

Just a heads up on those 133 FSB CPU's.
I have a XP2200. Up'd it to 166 (333) FSB. Runs great. Loves it. Passes Memtest86, 3D Mark passes all supported tests. Absolutely everything checks out fine. However, Comanche 4 crashes to desktop. Runs very unstable. When I drop the FSB back to 133, it runs fine. All my other apps are seem to run fine.

So, just a heads up on those 166 settings, it may appear stable but if you do get funny problems, drop it back down and see what happens. Note, that was ONLY upping the FSB. No voltage increase, and memory timings were set pretty loose (Which shouldnt be a problem as I'm using Corsair DDR3200 XMS) Thus, I wouldnt say 166 is a assured OC, YMMV

 

[Nic78]

Hi! I have a new A7N8X Deluxe. The mobo goes well. I want to know only on thing. I have Windows Xp (italian version) installed and in the list of peripheral installed i find a motherboard resource with the yellow exclamation mark. The resources are:
I/O Interval 0060-0060
I/O Interval 0064-0064

Windows Xp reports:
Loading of device driver for this device failed. A duplicated resource is just running on the system. (Code 42)

These resources have no conflict as reported from Windows Xp.
I would know if this is normal. Thanks!.

I don't use any PS/2 keyboard or mouse.

My Configuration
ASUS A7N8X Deluxe rev 1.04
Athlon XP 1800+ (FSB: 196Mhz * 8.5)
2*256Mb Corsair XMS3200 (in Sync and Timings : 5-2-2-2)
Ati Radeon 8500LE
ADSL Modem AccessRunner

 

[Shockwave]

Nic, as a shot in the dark, are you using both NIC's on the board?
I doubt thats it, like i said its a shot in the dark. XP should be fine with dual NICs, but who knows? I always get a network disconnected sign in the taskbar if I dont disable the NVidia NIC ( I use the 3Com).
Although, even showing the NVidia NIC as disconnected, I can surf just fine (Obviously, I use the 3Com)

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: Shockwave
A copy and paste from my post in Geenral Hardware..Essentially, just cause you can up the FSb and pass all benchmark / stess tests, you may still get funny errros....

Just a heads up on those 133 FSB CPU's.
I have a XP2200. Up'd it to 166 (333) FSB. Runs great. Loves it. Passes Memtest86, 3D Mark passes all supported tests. Absolutely everything checks out fine. However, Comanche 4 crashes to desktop. Runs very unstable. When I drop the FSB back to 133, it runs fine. All my other apps are seem to run fine.

So, just a heads up on those 166 settings, it may appear stable but if you do get funny problems, drop it back down and see what happens. Note, that was ONLY upping the FSB. No voltage increase, and memory timings were set pretty loose (Which shouldnt be a problem as I'm using Corsair DDR3200 XMS) Thus, I wouldnt say 166 is a assured OC, YMMV

What about Prime95? I find it hard that it can pass prime95 with no errors and crash on Commache4 (which is actually a good "test" game considering how CPU dependent it is...I think )

If it passed prime95 then i'm speechless

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: Shockwave
A copy and paste from my post in Geenral Hardware..Essentially, just cause you can up the FSb and pass all benchmark / stess tests, you may still get funny errros....

Just a heads up on those 133 FSB CPU's.
I have a XP2200. Up'd it to 166 (333) FSB. Runs great. Loves it. Passes Memtest86, 3D Mark passes all supported tests. Absolutely everything checks out fine. However, Comanche 4 crashes to desktop. Runs very unstable. When I drop the FSB back to 133, it runs fine. All my other apps are seem to run fine.

So, just a heads up on those 166 settings, it may appear stable but if you do get funny problems, drop it back down and see what happens. Note, that was ONLY upping the FSB. No voltage increase, and memory timings were set pretty loose (Which shouldnt be a problem as I'm using Corsair DDR3200 XMS) Thus, I wouldnt say 166 is a assured OC, YMMV

What about Prime95? I find it hard that it can pass prime95 with no errors and crash on Commache4 (which is actually a good "test" game considering how CPU dependent it is...I think )

If it passed prime95 then i'm speechless

No Prime95. I did however use CPU Burn. Not long enough, i KNOW I cut the test short, it was more to check heat then anything else. Ran it for....Oh, 10, 15 minutes. At most.
I may have to repeat this FSB and run CPU Burn overnight and see what happens though. Or maybe go with Prime95.

 

[DanStp]

If you ran an testing program for 10-15 minutes your system is not checked out. You need a night of Prime 95 if it runs that with no errors.....you will run your games fine 95% of the time. Good Luck

 

[Shockwave]

Yeah, I actually had meant to stress ttaulylest it, just check your obvious errors. Since this is intermittent, I guess I will run Prime95 overnight and see what happens.
Also, is CPUBurn as good as Prime95, or should I download Prime95 and go with that over CPUBurn.

 

[CureMe]

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: CureMe
Hello everybody

Every time when I go to bios, even not changing anything in there,when I exit my monitor goes on standby for a split second, and then it goes back, displaying the POST info.

I just installed my friends OLD harddrive (Quantum Fireball 1200Megs) in the same rack I had WDC60Gig installed - (I'm using HD enclosure)

After booting to win98 startup disk I fdisked it and it asked me to reboot after creating a primary partition

After restarting my monitor never came on from standby. After I turned my PC completely off... waited a few second... and then on again - everything is fine

So I booted to BIOS and checked all my settings, just to make sure.
And when I hit "Save changes and exit", same thing happens - the computer restarts, fans are working HD is working but the monitor is not initializing.

So I panicked and put the WDC 60Gig back in place (thinking that the old Quantum might be causing the problem). But then again - same thing.

Then I tricked it by turning off and on, booted fine to XP. Restarted from XP just fine. After it restarted and stopped at the dual boot menu I CTRL+ALT+DELeted and it restarted fine again. So now to completely make sure I went to bios and "Save changes and exit" - and the monitor initialized fine
Now I'm affraid to put in that old HD back and still don't know what happened.
Could it really be the battery (cus when the HD change occured the BIOS had to save that change)

-----------------------------------------------------
My info :
A7N8X Deluxe
Crucial 512
WDC 60 Gig
Asus V9280S/TVD 128MB DDR Geforce 4 TI4200 AGP 8X

I'm trying to remember if it was the A7N8X's where people recommended first Save the settings WITHOUT exiting, and then Save & Exit afterwards. You might want to update the BIOS to the 1002.01 Beta by putting it on a floppy (I recommend a full surface error check on the floppy so you know it's ok) and then holding down Alt + F2 keys at POST to start the built-in BIOS updater.

 

[CureMe]

Originally posted by: CureMe

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: CureMe
Hello everybody

Every time when I go to bios, even not changing anything in there,when I exit my monitor goes on standby for a split second, and then it goes back, displaying the POST info.

I just installed my friends OLD harddrive (Quantum Fireball 1200Megs) in the same rack I had WDC60Gig installed - (I'm using HD enclosure)

After booting to win98 startup disk I fdisked it and it asked me to reboot after creating a primary partition

After restarting my monitor never came on from standby. After I turned my PC completely off... waited a few second... and then on again - everything is fine

So I booted to BIOS and checked all my settings, just to make sure.
And when I hit "Save changes and exit", same thing happens - the computer restarts, fans are working HD is working but the monitor is not initializing.

So I panicked and put the WDC 60Gig back in place (thinking that the old Quantum might be causing the problem). But then again - same thing.

Then I tricked it by turning off and on, booted fine to XP. Restarted from XP just fine. After it restarted and stopped at the dual boot menu I CTRL+ALT+DELeted and it restarted fine again. So now to completely make sure I went to bios and "Save changes and exit" - and the monitor initialized fine
Now I'm affraid to put in that old HD back and still don't know what happened.
Could it really be the battery (cus when the HD change occured the BIOS had to save that change)

-----------------------------------------------------
My info :
A7N8X Deluxe
Crucial 512
WDC 60 Gig
Asus V9280S/TVD 128MB DDR Geforce 4 TI4200 AGP 8X

I'm trying to remember if it was the A7N8X's where people recommended first Save the settings WITHOUT exiting, and then Save & Exit afterwards. You might want to update the BIOS to the 1002.01 Beta by putting it on a floppy (I recommend a full surface error check on the floppy so you know it's ok) and then holding down Alt + F2 keys at POST to start the built-in BIOS updater.

Thanks for the tip I'll try that
Meanwhile I was trying to install W2k on the other HD (WDC 20 Gig which was giving me simular problems) First thing it said that the smart drive is not enabled, though I was booting from win98 startup disk as I allways do. Then after finishing with the copying file in DOS part of the installation it asked me to remove any media and reboot. But then after I did that it gave me "Disk boot failure". And I thought it was supposed to boot with HD and continue with the installation

 

[bigpow]

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: bigpow
BTW,

I've reached the 200MHz FSB as of today.

AthlonXP T-bred-A 1700+ at 9x200 @ Vcore = 1.675
DDR Timing = 6-3-3-3-2

Rock solid!

Congrats!!!

I'm curious as to the ram you are using since i have the same processor

Nothing special, just a single 512MB Corsair XMS PC3200C2.

Ooh, and Final BIOS 1002 FIXED my shutdown problem! Woohoo!
No more power on trick! Not even have to change the battery.

Everything is working FINE, both LAN adapters are up (this is my ICS host), all USB ports are okay, run SimCity 4 for a day without any problem. Using ASUS 1.16 NFORCE2 driver with DETONATOR 40.72

Very happy with A7N8X Deluxe.

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: CureMe

Originally posted by: CureMe

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: CureMe
Hello everybody

Every time when I go to bios, even not changing anything in there,when I exit my monitor goes on standby for a split second, and then it goes back, displaying the POST info.

I just installed my friends OLD harddrive (Quantum Fireball 1200Megs) in the same rack I had WDC60Gig installed - (I'm using HD enclosure)

After booting to win98 startup disk I fdisked it and it asked me to reboot after creating a primary partition

After restarting my monitor never came on from standby. After I turned my PC completely off... waited a few second... and then on again - everything is fine

So I booted to BIOS and checked all my settings, just to make sure.
And when I hit "Save changes and exit", same thing happens - the computer restarts, fans are working HD is working but the monitor is not initializing.

So I panicked and put the WDC 60Gig back in place (thinking that the old Quantum might be causing the problem). But then again - same thing.

Then I tricked it by turning off and on, booted fine to XP. Restarted from XP just fine. After it restarted and stopped at the dual boot menu I CTRL+ALT+DELeted and it restarted fine again. So now to completely make sure I went to bios and "Save changes and exit" - and the monitor initialized fine
Now I'm affraid to put in that old HD back and still don't know what happened.
Could it really be the battery (cus when the HD change occured the BIOS had to save that change)

-----------------------------------------------------
My info :
A7N8X Deluxe
Crucial 512
WDC 60 Gig
Asus V9280S/TVD 128MB DDR Geforce 4 TI4200 AGP 8X

I'm trying to remember if it was the A7N8X's where people recommended first Save the settings WITHOUT exiting, and then Save & Exit afterwards. You might want to update the BIOS to the 1002.01 Beta by putting it on a floppy (I recommend a full surface error check on the floppy so you know it's ok) and then holding down Alt + F2 keys at POST to start the built-in BIOS updater.

Thanks for the tip I'll try that
Meanwhile I was trying to install W2k on the other HD (WDC 20 Gig which was giving me simular problems) First thing it said that the smart drive is not enabled, though I was booting from win98 startup disk as I allways do. Then after finishing with the copying file in DOS part of the installation it asked me to remove any media and reboot. But then after I did that it gave me "Disk boot failure". And I thought it was supposed to boot with HD and continue with the installation

Hit ESC at POST and it'll let you pick the drive you want to boot from. If you want it to boot from that drive all the time, set it that way in BIOS.

 

[CureMe]

That's exactly what my problem is. It is set to boot from HD in BIOS and it is booting from the 60 gig HD (the one with win98/winXP) but when putting in 20Gig instead and intalling W2K on it, that's when it says "Disk boot failure" (after finishing with copying the files and restarting).
btw, the for some reason the monitor initializing fine only with 60Gig WDC, but when I tried to put in first 1.2Gig Quantum and then 20Gig WDC - same symptoms, first the monitor is not initializing when saving changes and exiting in bios or just ctrl+alt+delleting while the PC is still in POST state and then it won't boot to the windows part of the installation, even though it is set to boot from HD.

I guess it could be the bios, but was hoping to wait for the non-beta version before going to the "point of no return" and flashing it.

 

[CureMe]

Originally posted by: bigpow

Originally posted by: snidy
[(except everytime I shut it down, I have to do the power-on "trick")

What's the power on trick?

It's like this; see everytime I shut it down, it will not boot (no sound, no beep, no display)

At this point, I would press RESET and then hold POWER for 5sec (turn it off)
And then POWER on again.

It'd boot and BIOS would show 1100MHz (100MHz), then do F10 and Enter.

It'd boot into windows and stays stable until the next shutdown.

Are you having same problem?

I have the same problem, except for the shutdown part. My prob only happens when I place anything other than my WDC60Gig HD that was originally in there when I was building the system. And when I do the power off/on trick, and check the bios - all settings remain untouched.

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: CureMe
That's exactly what my problem is. It is set to boot from HD in BIOS and it is booting from the 60 gig HD (the one with win98/winXP) but when putting in 20Gig instead and intalling W2K on it, that's when it says "Disk boot failure" (after finishing with copying the files and restarting).
btw, the for some reason the monitor initializing fine only with 60Gig WDC, but when I tried to put in first 1.2Gig Quantum and then 20Gig WDC - same symptoms, first the monitor is not initializing when saving changes and exiting in bios or just ctrl+alt+delleting while the PC is still in POST state and then it won't boot to the windows part of the installation, even though it is set to boot from HD.

I guess it could be the bios, but was hoping to wait for the non-beta version before going to the "point of no return" and flashing it.

Make sure the 20Gb Western Digital is correctly jumpered. If it's solo on a cable, make sure to set the jumper to Single Drive. Seems like this has been the source of some peoples' issues.

 

[CureMe]

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: CureMe
That's exactly what my problem is. It is set to boot from HD in BIOS and it is booting from the 60 gig HD (the one with win98/winXP) but when putting in 20Gig instead and intalling W2K on it, that's when it says "Disk boot failure" (after finishing with copying the files and restarting).
btw, the for some reason the monitor initializing fine only with 60Gig WDC, but when I tried to put in first 1.2Gig Quantum and then 20Gig WDC - same symptoms, first the monitor is not initializing when saving changes and exiting in bios or just ctrl+alt+delleting while the PC is still in POST state and then it won't boot to the windows part of the installation, even though it is set to boot from HD.

I guess it could be the bios, but was hoping to wait for the non-beta version before going to the "point of no return" and flashing it.

Make sure the 20Gb Western Digital is correctly jumpered. If it's solo on a cable, make sure to set the jumper to Single Drive. Seems like this has been the source of some peoples' issues.

thanks for the heads up, but it is single and I have it without any jumpers, dunno if that's the right thing to do but the BIOS detects it

 

[order]

Originally posted by: bigpow
BTW,

I've reached the 200MHz FSB as of today.

AthlonXP T-bred-A 1700+ at 9x200 @ Vcore = 1.675
DDR Timing = 6-3-3-3-2

Rock solid!

I'm sure this is a dumb question but how do you set your FSB to 200? What bios are you using? I'm using 1002 and I only get 133 and 166, no 200. What are you doing to get it to 200?