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skyking

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my sister made a post about no longer shopping at Target because of this. Personally I think she has it backwards. Show up at Target and Kohls with the colors flying in support of the store!!
 

nakedfrog

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my sister made a post about no longer shopping at Target because of this. Personally I think she has it backwards. Show up at Target and Kohls with the colors flying in support of the store!!
I very rarely shop there, I'd thought about going to check this stuff out, but now I'm torn. I understand making some concessions towards worker safety (likely mostly to shield themselves from liability in my cynical opinion), but I'd prefer a more robust reaction versus their current flaccid response. Issue a public apology and statement condemning these domestic terrorists and the politicians who encourage them, make some donations to relevant charities, and for the items they're removing from the shelves, donate those to local LGBTQ+ communities/Pride festivals if they don't plan to sell them.
 
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MrSquished

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Looks like this has now spread to Kohl's for carrying Pride items for sale.


Fuck these conservaterrorist bigots.


edit:
I saw this reply on the twitter account for this article.

" Keep it up, you'll only have Chick-fil-A to eat and hobby lobby to shop at."

:p

So you haven't heard? Chick-fil-A is now a target. They hired an executive of diversity equity and inclusion and the conservatives are getting outraged

 

Ajay

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I was contemplating on the stupidity of several of the recent anti-LGBTQ laws and ran across the phrase "immutable." Unchanging. Of course, this is in reference to sex assigned at birth, which being a physician, is an absolutely ludicrous statement. All I have to say is 5-alpha reductase deficiency, also called guevedoces, and I just blew the immutable out of the water. Not uncommon in the Dominican Republic, 5-AR leads to a child being assigned female at birth and when puberty rolls around, literally transitions to male anatomy with no outside influences. Hence the name "guevedoces," or testes at twelve. Most of these kids grow up preferring to be male.

Most people would probably recognize the t-shirts with an arrow pointing up and the phrase "hey! I'm up here!" Some are probably a little titillated just thinking about it. Interesting enough, brain and sexual anatomy develop independently from each other. We typically don't see it from day to day because of the congruence most people have with their sex and gender identity. Interesting fact, 50% of the world population are chimeras where one part of their body may have or express different genes than the other. One of the X chromosomes in females literally turns off creating what is called a Barr body on imaging. The process of inactivation is random, happens early in gestation and is caused by lyonization. We see the effect of this with X-linked recessive disorders, hemophilia being the easiest to understand. Hemophilia, a bleeding disorder, leads to poor factor/clotting protein production in the liver. If the affected X-chromosome is active in the liver in a female, they can be called "symptomatic carriers." As body and brain development are incredibly complex, it is not unusual for genetic mechanisms to go awry either from inborn errors or outside influences. Back in the day, when thalidomide was used as an anti-emetic for women during pregnancy, it led to significant birth defects. It didn't just affect the body, but also brain development. The led to many children born with thalidomide exposure to develop gender dysphoria. A strong reminder that the environment we live in and the exposures we create can and does affect our children. (xeno-estrogens)

There are countless examples of sex and gender being disrupted through genetic means. I've used CAIS or PAIS as other perfect examples. Swyer syndrome is another. I have Kallmann syndrome or congenital hypogonadotropic hypogonadism. During development, people with Kallmann syndrome have failure of the transport of the appropriate cells to the pituitary gland and olfactory nerves. Some can smell. Others cannot. There are about 25 different genes associated with this transport. Mine is FGFR1. FGFR1 is also associated with bone malformations, among other things. I've had 8 hip surgeries to date.

What we have discovered over the past 25 years, is the incredibly complex nature of our sexual development. It IS NOT just XX or XY. To be honest, you can just take both of those away. It really is just the SRY and SOX9 gene. BTW, both men and women have the SOX9 gene.

It drives me bonkers when people say, "it's basic biology!" No, no it's not. There is absolutely nothing basic about our sexual development and starting out life with an egg and sperm. Absolutely nothing basic.

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(this is the easier diagram, BTW)
(FGFR1 is in the "other genes" category)
Thanks! Looking at scientifically derived developments in sexual development has been an eye opener wrt gender identity. Still much to be learned in gender dysphoria due to other (unknown) causes. So, there is hope, but communicating this sort of information to the gen-pop, who are sorely lacking in the ability to understand these concept will be, perhaps, and insurmountable problem :(
 

HomerJS

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I'm wondering why the rampant book banning by the right isn't getting as much traction as all the anti LGBTQ stuff?
 

nakedfrog

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Thanks! Looking at scientifically derived developments in sexual development has been an eye opener wrt gender identity. Still much to be learned in gender dysphoria due to other (unknown) causes. So, there is hope, but communicating this sort of information to the gen-pop, who are sorely lacking in the ability to understand these concept will be, perhaps, and insurmountable problem :(
Do we really need to communicate these kind of things? It wasn't necessary for broader gay acceptance. The issue here is mostly the Outrage Machine. Bud Light and Target are both being targeted, despite years of supporting the community. And see below, this Lego set started being sold 2 years ago. Chick-Fil-A appointed that person to a DEI position 2 years ago. Nobody cared then, because the Outrage Machine hadn't told them to yet. They started getting upset about Ford's Very Gay Raptor now too, which again first appeared in 2021.
apparently Lego is now also a target for their A to Z pride inclusivity themed legos
 

HomerJS

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So you haven't heard? Chick-fil-A is now a target. They hired an executive of diversity equity and inclusion and the conservatives are getting outraged

Funny stuff. Chick-fil-A used to be a safe haven for righties. I guess the boycotts will begin.

Maybe Kid Rock can shoot up a bunch of chicken nuggets. That would make a funny YT parody.

I'll help write the script. KR: "What's with all the DEI shit at CFA? Those people already have Popeye's we don't want more of them in our space"
 

Ajay

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Do we really need to communicate these kind of things? It wasn't necessary for broader gay acceptance. The issue here is mostly the Outrage Machine. Bud Light and Target are both being targeted, despite years of supporting the community. And see below, this Lego set started being sold 2 years ago. Chick-Fil-A appointed that person to a DEI position 2 years ago. Nobody cared then, because the Outrage Machine hadn't told them to yet. They started getting upset about Ford's Very Gay Raptor now too, which again first appeared in 2021.
Well, I suppose there's hope for people like me who have enough curiosity and a sufficient intellect to spend the time reading up on stuff like transgenderism. Guess that probably not allot of people are though. But, to your point, no - not now that every cultural change in the past 30 years is bundled into the phrase 'woke culture'. It's become a monster of such huge proportions that it terrifies many (right) and overwhelms people ability to even know how to combat it (left). Now it will become a dominant pivot point in politics and divisive topic in general conversation.
 
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Well, I suppose there's hope for people like me who have enough curiosity and a sufficient intellect to spend the time reading up on stuff like transgenderism. Guess that probably not allot of people are though. But, to your point, no - not now that every cultural change in the past 30 years is bundled into the phrase 'woke culture'. It's become a monster of such huge proportions that it terrifies many (right) and overwhelms people ability to even know how to combat it (left). Now it will become a dominant pivot point in politics and divisive topic in general conversation.
One of our challenges in the English/Latin speaking world is the inherent "2 sexes" in our culture and language. Look at any latin based language and they have just male/female pronouns. However, take a pass through a lot of other cultures and there are many with a 3rd gender.


I think the map is most telling and gives an idea on how well this is understood across the world - except here.

I see a lot of Christianity focusing on the creation and male and female. Never mind, Isaiah 56 and Matt 19. I love how they pick and choose scripture to their own liking. I'm Mormon. Being a transgender woman has been very interesting in this religion. They very firmly believe your sex is correct as it is assigned at birth, but make exceptions for ambiguous genitalia. They try to push hard on the 2 sexes mantra, but fail significantly to recognize those with intersex conditions. It's absolutely weird.

I still go, primarily because I feel I am making a lot of headway on people. A lot. I am accepted (for now) and I don't get a lot of anti-lgbtq stuff. Actually, the congregations I work with are planning on hosting a pro-LGBTQ fireside. I've already been asked to present. There are rumors there are some policy changes coming and the rumor is they are not favorable to the transgender community. So, I get to wait for the ax to fall. :/

I work with several of the members in my congregations including several of the leaders. They are really good people. Little by little, I'm breaking down barriers. It literally has been one person at a time.
 

nakedfrog

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Well, I suppose there's hope for people like me who have enough curiosity and a sufficient intellect to spend the time reading up on stuff like transgenderism. Guess that probably not allot of people are though. But, to your point, no - not now that every cultural change in the past 30 years is bundled into the phrase 'woke culture'. It's become a monster of such huge proportions that it terrifies many (right) and overwhelms people ability to even know how to combat it (left). Now it will become a dominant pivot point in politics and divisive topic in general conversation.
It's been made into a monster to be used as a tool, once they got Roe V Wade knocked out they were like "well, what do we do now?" and you're witnessing the fruits of that. It's the rallying cry for 2024. These people weren't "terrified" 6 years ago or 2 years ago. For such a small percentage of the population?
 

hal2kilo

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So you haven't heard? Chick-fil-A is now a target. They hired an executive of diversity equity and inclusion and the conservatives are getting outraged

Heck, I might have to go and pay for one of those not so exceptional chicken sandwiches (has one when visiting my brother), now.
 

Dave_5k

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Have I missed something????

Drag Show Artists Fear Crackdown As Texas Passes Sexual Conduct Bill

The Texas bill on sexual content in performances was initially meant to bar children from attending drag shows.
And it includes a definition of sexual conduct that bars wearing accessories or prosthetics that enhance the female or male form in front of a minor or on public property.


I dont know if I missed something, but I went through all of grade-school and all of junior-high school and graduated high-school and I never once had a drag show in class nor any teacher give a speech on homosexuality or try to convert the class over to homosexually.
I guess my high school drama club trip (many years ago) to see the musical La Cage aux Folles would now be a criminal activity in several Republican states... and it was a complete non-issue back then.

Slightly modifying what someone else noted earlier, if they want to protect the children, completely banning Catholic priests, Christian pastors, and all Republican politicians from accessing schools and seeing children without parental supervision would protect a far greater number of children from actual harm...
 
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Dave_5k

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I'm wondering why the rampant book banning by the right isn't getting as much traction as all the anti LGBTQ stuff?
It is really only a small handful of seriously mentally ill people on the right, that mostly should be placed into mental institutes (if those hadn't been defunded by the right), who are successfully driving almost all of the rampant book banning.
 
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PlanetJosh

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So some articles are saying Chick-fil-A included the LGBT things to avoid lawsuits and it's not a genuine turn to the left. That's probably been mentioned already. Anyway I'm sympathetic to those kinds of ads but I can understand conservatives getting upset about it. Because what about including ads for Mensa the highly smart people?

But more seriously it may appear they are pushing LGBT support ads ahead of ads supporting minority groups like people with disabilities or blacks, hispanics, asians and others. So to keep things fair they'd have to increase prominence for minority ads they already support or add other minority ads or both. And that could wind up looking like a more of a circus than it already does. Same for Target and other big companies. But I still think it would be the fair thing to do, but it's just not practical.
 

skyking

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corporate america is playing you like a fiddle, Josh.
Have you ever heard of greenwashing? Look that up. These public relations campaigns are cold calculated attempts to put the fundie asshole genie back in the bottle. Hate chicken showed their true colors when they did not want to pay for birth control for employees with their health care plan. Hate pizza did much the same.
They have not changed. They are just trying to greenwash their image and it is working. Come on, @hal2kilo , don't even joke about hate chicken ;)
 
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