The Official ANTI-WOKE anti-lgbt conservaterrorist mob thread!

[kitkat22]

And I quote:
"Don’t wish for people to suffer damnation for opposing us or doing evil stuff. Don’t want 'the gays' to burn in hell."

Sounds like passing judgement to me.

"Uh, no. The literal point of that phrase is that you are NOT the sin that you may be committing. Ergo, we are not passing judgement on you. We recognize certain actions as being sinful (offensive to God) and cannot condone those actions. I'm not here to pass judgement on you, I haven’t and I won’t."

You're still calling people sinners - "love the sinner." Seriously, it's right there in the statement! Why can't it just be "love thy neighbor?" See? Wasn't that a better approach?

BTW, I am Christian and I am angry at my fellow Christians who are trotting around with a "holier-than-thou" attitude with subsequent impositions of their beliefs on my rights. I see it all the time and don't say it doesn't happen because I and many others will stand as witnesses to this. I have been called a pedophile, a pervert, a freak, a devil, a heretic, apostate and all by people claiming to be Christian. Deut 22:5 is a favorite. The creation is another favorite.

Yeah, let's go back to the days of dunce caps, slavery, suffrage, beatings, stoning, lynching and do it all in the name of religion. We love the sinner so much that we are going to get you to Christ faster by taking your life. I'm sorry, the absolute hypocrisy is insane. The current batch of laws coming out of "religious conservatives" is flat out stupid. I've listened to far more legislative sessions than I care to over the past 6 months and guess what has been a common tool used? The bible. So many quote the bible. It's disgusting. Why don't we start quoting the Quran? No? Aren't we supposed to be a country of separation of church and state?

 

[Drach]

"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
Truer words have never been spoken.

 

[hal2kilo]

"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
Truer words have never been spoken.

Or phrased another way, I have nothing against Christianity, I just hate their club.

 

[Pohemi]

I'm a bit disappointed you had nothing in reply to my last post. Did you give up the discourse?

That's your prerogative, but tbh I was awaiting to see your reply to it.

Roman Catholicism.

Again...nothing against the individual, but everything against the church.

I was raised Roman Catholic...it formed many of my less than savory views on religion. I pity you in a way...but it's your choice to be part of it, of course. Your CHOICE.

The people in question and the point of this thread was people who aren't making choices, they are simply trying to live as who they are as an individual. Saying LGBTQ people "choose" to live that way, is like saying black folks choose to be born black. It's a ridiculous notion and incredibly dishonest or ignorant.

By your beliefs, these people are sinning by choice. It's a big disconnect from reality and understanding who these folks are.

We recognize certain actions as being sinful (offensive to God) and cannot condone those actions. I'm not here to pass judgement on you, I haven’t and I won’t.

Your references and commentary about "actions" and "choices" and behavior being the sin just show again that you do not understand the fact that THESE ARE NOT CHOICES. This is who these people ARE.

Look at it this way from a religious PoV...God MADE them that way...how could existing be a sin? This is why the church insists that it is a choice to be that way, and your 'nature of humans' beliefs are telling you that it's unnatural. Like it's a fad that offends God.

This is how you convince yourself that these people are sinners. Just because you aren't the one to send them to heaven or hell, you ARE still judging them in your own heart, simply with your beliefs. This isn't at all hard to see from your commentary (don't give me the 'I never said that' routine).

And again...you may think, "well I'M not the one passing judgement on you, that's God's job", but you still vote for those oppressing others pointlessly, and you are part of a religion that does not always leave that judgement to God. Do you think they are not being judgmental?

I guess loving the church is similar to loving the GOP over one or two policies...have to swallow it all if you want any part of it. Which is why I do not.

 

[Pohemi]

"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
Truer words have never been spoken.

One of Ghandi's most well-known quotes, and very much how I see Christianity. Simple and poignant.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

They are really trying to push this gay agenda thing.

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Ha-Haaah! Jeez! It was 10 or 15 years ago when Lewis Black gave his show at Ford's Theater for premium TV. It was about homophobic reactions to LGBTQ community. It ended with a scenario he described.

Somewhere in middle America, a nice, Christian heterosexual family is in cul-de-sac home, sitting down to dinner.

A black van pulls up at the curb. Gays in black hooded capes get out of the van -- wearing patent-leather spike-heeled pumps -- "Very tasty". They walk up to the front door, bang on the door-knocker, and yell in unison:

"We're here and we're queer! We're here and we're queer!"

Just as an aside -- what happened to Lewis Black?! That guy was a hoot!

 

[nakedfrog]

Ha-Haaah! Jeez! It was 10 or 15 years ago when Lewis Black gave his show at Ford's Theater for premium TV. It was about homophobic reactions to LGBTQ community. It ended with a scenario he described.

Somewhere in middle America, a nice, Christian heterosexual family is in cul-de-sac home, sitting down to dinner.

A black van pulls up at the curb. Gays in black hooded capes get out of the van -- wearing patent-leather spike-heeled pumps -- "Very tasty". They walk up to the front door, bang on the door-knocker, and yell in unison:

"We're here and we're queer! We're here and we're queer!"

Just as an aside -- what happened to Lewis Black?! That guy was a hoot!

He's still around, just released a special recently.

 

[Ajay]

You're still calling people sinners - "love the sinner." Seriously, it's right there in the statement! Why can't it just be "love thy neighbor?" See? Wasn't that a better approach?

Fair point. Doing my best to look at it from the perspective of a non-Christian, this must be terrible. I’ll drop that phrase for now on. Thanks.

 

[Ajay]

Acting according to your beliefs is fine and good (assuming the beliefs are benign);

I'm a bit disappointed you had nothing in reply to my last post. Did you give up the discourse?

Well, there was allot of back and forth - kind of easy to lose track (on my iPad anyway). I think I read the first part about my beliefs needing to be benign and didn’t know what to say. Christianity has always tended toward the countercultural, because Christ was eminently countercultural.

That and this is getting tiresome. Probably shouldn’t have bothered responding to @brycejones with that screed I wrote last night while tired and annoyed over some stupid PC build problems. Wish I could say I had too much to drink, but that wasn’t the case. Anyway, this thread has gone way off topic, so I’ll cease and desist for my part.

 

[darkswordsman17]

The thing that always gets me when religious zealots start spouting off, is how much other people know their religion than they do.

Why do conservofascists always conflate consensual sex with non-consensual rape, child molestation and bestiality when making arguments for controlling your sexy bits and bedroom activity?

"Every conservative accusation is a confession?"

Children cannot consent.
Animals cannot consent.
Anyone you have power over cannot consent.

The rules of who can, and cannot consent are quite simple, really.
So why conflate consensual sex with non-consensual sex?

Because a LOT of them were convinced it was the former when the latter happened, either to them, or someone close to them, by people using their religion to get them to do nothing about it. And changing from that would make them have to confront either what happened to them or what they let happen to someone else.

It’s not a deflection it’s a statement of fact. Also yes we ado have different ideals you seem to believe the route to human dignity is by controlling people instead of giving them the ability to live their lives without having your religious morality forced in them to constrain that freedom.


I firmly believe that you are entitled to live your faith. You are also absolutely not entitled to force those same beliefs on anyone else.

And that's where your misunderstanding comes from. Their religious belief is that they absolutely should get to force those beliefs on others. That is their actual true religion. They literally bend all the rest, the only thing they actually believe and care about is forcing their beliefs on others.

 

[JD50]

Dude brought up MBLA in response to the LGBTQ community and sex positivity while being a fucking Catholic. You’re part of an organization that protects and supports literal child rapists and you’re worried about no fault divorce. Can’t make this shit up.

 

[Pohemi]

And that's where your misunderstanding comes from. Their religious belief is that they absolutely should get to force those beliefs on others. That is their actual true religion. They literally bend all the rest, the only thing they actually believe and care about is forcing their beliefs on others.

Oh, the church says you are entirely free to choose your own beliefs. But if you don't accept Jesus into your heart, you're definitely going to hell.

To hell. Totally your choice though!

Catholicism especially is all about driving home the guilt and making sure you don't forget it. Shit, and I thought my mother was terrible at guilt-tripping people. She's got nothing on Christianity.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Oh, the church says you are entirely free to choose your own beliefs. But if you don't accept Jesus into your heart, you're definitely going to hell.

To hell. Totally your choice though!

Catholicism especially is all about driving home the guilt and making sure you don't forget it. Shit, and I thought my mother was terrible at guilt-tripping people. She's got nothing on Christianity.

But it’s not your choice, the concept of free will directly contradicts an all knowing creator. You cannot have both.

 

[kitkat22]

I was talking to a colleague yesterday. He came out as "anti-woke" but ok with LGBTQ. (huh?) When I tried to have him explain "woke" he couldn't do it. "but I know it, when I see it."

Seriously wanted to bang my head against the wall. I used to be medical director of a nursing home and he and I worked closely together. He's a nice guy. Really, he is.

 

[skyking]

Sometimes you have to bite your tongue and keep the conversation going. I have drifted away from people that fit your description in many ways.

 

[kitkat22]

Sometimes you have to bite your tongue and keep the conversation going. I have drifted away from people that fit your description in many ways.

I rephrased my post. Are you referring to me or him with drifting away?

 

[skyking]

I was talking about me, and the loss that it represents to hold an absolute position. I have learned to take people with sometimes huge chunks of salt
You said he was a nice guy, he really is. I believe you.

 

[brycejones]

Trans teen denied clothes of her choice under graduation gown.

A transgender girl will not attend her high school graduation after Mississippi judge denies emergency plea to permit her to go dressed as a girl | CNN

A Mississippi federal judge denied a motion Friday, filed by the family of a transgender high school student requesting she be allowed to wear a dress and heels under her robe at her Gulfport high school graduation.

www.cnn.com

 

[kitkat22]

MSN

Does this surprise anyone? I believe it has been discussed and pointed out before.

 

[Drach]

MSN

Does this surprise anyone? I believe it has been discussed and pointed out before.

I'm not sure what to make of your link.
Everything posted is truncated into 4 paragraphs.

 

[skyking]

I'm not sure what to make of your link.
Everything posted is truncated into 4 paragraphs.

click the "continue reading" blue button below the pomegranite picture.
I found the AP link about legislation that was imbedded there has the details state by state.
Comparing Model Bills to Real Proposals

Do No Harm and the Family Research Council are the source of these oppressive proposals.
Sheit heel legislators have these canned documents to use to model the push from the rwnj churchies.

 

[VRAMdemon]

"Christian" pastor calls for the execution of all LGBTQ people as well as the parents of transgender people: “They just need to be shot in the back of the head and then we can string them up above a bridge.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1659985894349078528

 

[ch33zw1z]

"Christian" pastor calls for the execution of all LGBTQ people as well as the parents of transgender people: “They just need to be shot in the back of the head and then we can string them up above a bridge.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1659985894349078528

WWJD?

 

[Drach]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1518564439263531008

Same guy.
Just like the taliban

 

[Pohemi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1518564439263531008

Same guy.
Just like the taliban

The sad/scary part is that he's just an example who happened to take the spotlight...he's not even close to the only one using god's name to spit hateful rhetoric. This is the kind of thing that IMO becomes questionable with 1A rights.

If he was some jackass sitting around saying this shit to his family or buddies, whatever. But this tool is spewing this from a platform, to malleable fools believing it's god's word and work. Social media, this shit happens all the time. But this asshole is basically telling local rubes that this needs to happen. And some of them might take it to heart.

He needs to quit his shit, or get punched in the windpipe IMO.