The Official ANTI-WOKE anti-lgbt conservaterrorist mob thread!

[K1052]

Just pointing out the huge numbers of people are already moving to Florida and many other alleged "red" states.

" it may no longer be safe to move to or visit the state"

I'm sure there are many LGBTQ.... people in the mix.

Some maybe but everyone I know is aware of the issues and would not move there. A couple in our building just moved from Fort Lauderdale...they don't have anything good to say about the political situation there. Our best friends in Texas bolted around the same time we did.

 

[pcgeek11]

Some maybe but everyone I know is aware of the issues and would not move there. A couple in our building just moved from Fort Lauderdale...they don't have anything good to say about the political situation there. Our best friends in Texas bolted around the same time we did.

It's obvious that many do like it...

 

[K1052]

It's obvious that many do like it...

All I can tell you is that I notice a clear souring among the people I know that didn't exist a few years ago.

 

[Oyeve]

Holy fucking shit!

That is not a joke.

Its real.
It looks like a joke, like something the Onion would do.
Its not.
Its a real product.

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This is not a spoof. Its not a saturday night live bit.
These people are actually going to make and sell conservative beer.

What a bunch of fuckin cunts.

Pussy beer for pussy ultra-nutjobs. Only 4% alcohol.

 

[nakedfrog]

Just pointing out the huge numbers of people are already moving to Florida and many other alleged "red" states.

" it may no longer be safe to move to or visit the state"

I'm sure there are many LGBTQ.... people in the mix.

"alleged 'red' states"?

While you may be "sure there are many LGBTQ+ people in the mix", what I'm seeing is people trying to figure out how to get the fuck out of that shithole state, or panicking because they're closeted and having to move there for various reasons.

 

[ch33zw1z]

"alleged 'red' states"?

While you may be "sure there are many LGBTQ+ people in the mix", what I'm seeing is people trying to figure out how to get the fuck out of that shithole state, or panicking because they're closeted and having to move there for various reasons.

Oh he’s sure tho, many people are saying….

 

[Pens1566]

I'm sure the vast majority of people moving to FL are doing it either for the weather or for the lack of income tax.

 

[UNCjigga]

I'm sure the vast majority of people moving to FL are doing it either for the weather or for the lack of income tax.

I’d be curious to see net migration by age group and income level.

 

[fskimospy]

I’d be curious to see net migration by age group and income level.

For California at least outflows are mostly younger and lower income. Same as with New York out-migration is mostly due to unaffordable housing.

 

[uallas5]

I go down to the keys 1 or 2 times a year. It's fantastic down there.

The Keys are only part of Florida because that's where they had the unfortunate luck of forming off the coast of. These days they would be better suited farther out into the Caribbean and self-governing.

 

[Pens1566]

I’d be curious to see net migration by age group and income level.

Good point. It's likely the people that can live wherever they choose aren't leaving CA. Cost of living would be a huge part of it.

 

[Gardener]

I am glad I can at least be somewhat useful. It is definitely a rough road for sure. We face decades of various degrees of education. Most of the older generation will have some identification with the discovery of DNA with watson and crick in 1953. Sex chromosomes were discovered in 1905. The human genome project started in 1990 and finished in 2003 with the first human genome sequences performed. We subsequently went from billions of dollars expended on that project alone to getting your genome sequenced for $500 now. In 2008, the "1000 genomes project" was started to initiate tracking of genomes and variants. That finished in 2015, a mere 8 years ago. This explosion of understanding of our genetics has kinda turned our basic understanding of genetics upside down a bit. Most people have not had a chance to catch up.

We have seen an explosion of understanding of gestational and pubertal development, and, really, we are only at the beginning. It used to be we suspected there were millions of genes that made up the human genome. Turns out it is only 20000. We have identified all of the genes, now comes the understanding of how variants and epigenetics work.

I am a physician. I love reading the literature about this. It helps me appreciate and have compassion, not just for LGBTQ, but for developmental delay and autism. we are looking at seizures and heart disease differently. We see potential therapeutic interventions that are designed to help an individual and not just a group. It's amazingly cool.

In the meantime, I have been called a murderer, stupid, slow, a pedophile and threatened. Some of this is because I'm a physician, others because I'm transgender. I promised myself, after a certain patient encounter, I would not sit idle with staying silent. I have spoken at several events now and I will continue to do so.

a friendly nudge: LGBTQ folks don't need compassion because there is nothing wrong with them. They deserved to be treated with acceptance and respect, like any member of society.

Human gender and sexual preference are both on continuums; we've all observed folks who don't neatly fit into box "A" or box "B". And that variation makes for a healthier population.

 

[kitkat22]

a friendly nudge: LGBTQ folks don't need compassion because there is nothing wrong with them. They deserved to be treated with acceptance and respect, like any member of society.

Human gender and sexual preference are both on continuums; we've all observed folks who don't neatly fit into box "A" or box "B". And that variation makes for a healthier population.

I agree there is nothing wrong with me and I have been actively participating in pushing for acceptance and respect for the LGTBTQ community. Next week will be my 2nd system wide presentation through our hospital system discussion transgender issues and how to care for us as patients. I am also actively engaging within my religious community to open doors and understanding.

I am a transgender woman fighting for mine and other's existence and rights. I agree that human gender and sexual preference fall on a continuum. I would also make arguments that human sex is not binary either.

 

[Greenman]

For California at least outflows are mostly younger and lower income. Same as with New York out-migration is mostly due to unaffordable housing.

It's not just housing, it's gas, it's home energy, it's crowding and the related traffic nightmares, it's homeless people, it's drug addict's, it's crime.

Stupid housing prices may be the main driving force, but all the other things add to the discontent.

 

[Fenixgoon]

It's not just housing, it's gas, it's home energy, it's crowding and the related traffic nightmares, it's homeless people, it's drug addict's, it's crime.

Stupid housing prices may be the main driving force, but all the other things add to the discontent.

NYC and Los Angeles are both safer than the US at large.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

 

[fskimospy]

It's not just housing, it's gas, it's home energy, it's crowding and the related traffic nightmares, it's homeless people, it's drug addict's, it's crime.

Stupid housing prices may be the main driving force, but all the other things add to the discontent.

High prices and homelessness are direct consequences of bad housing/land use policy as are drug addicts to a lesser extent. As far as crowding goes as that's the famous Yogi Berra quote - 'nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded.'

As for crime, the southern states expats from New York and California usually go to often have comparable or in many cases much higher crime rates than they do as generally speaking the South is a very high crime area. I found it funny that recently DeSantis was complaining about how crime ridden NYC was while if NYC had a crime rate anything like cities in Florida or the south as a whole it would be considered a national emergency.

What could be true though is that in moving from a high housing cost area to a low one you can then afford to move into a neighborhood with less crime but that's back to housing cost again.

 

[APU_Fusion]

NYC and Los Angeles are both safer than the US at large.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Get your facts, statistical analysis and deep thinking out of here. How can some on this forum go with their “feels” owning the libtards and alt-facts, with your obvious logical fact bias?

 

[Vic]

It's not just housing, it's gas, it's home energy, it's crowding and the related traffic nightmares, it's homeless people, it's drug addict's, it's crime.

Stupid housing prices may be the main driving force, but all the other things add to the discontent.

The real problem is that the people who are the most discontented with the homeless, drug addicts, and crime are the same ones who profited the most from the stupid housing prices that, in very large part, caused the homeless, drug addicts, and crime.

 

[Amused]

It's not just housing, it's gas, it's home energy, it's crowding and the related traffic nightmares, it's homeless people, it's drug addict's, it's crime.

Stupid housing prices may be the main driving force, but all the other things add to the discontent.

Tell me you've never lived in Southern California without saying you've never lived in Southern California.

Maybe instead of getting your impressions of places frm propaganda designed to fill you with feelings you should actually go there.

I live here. Crime and homeless don't affect me in my day to day life. Cost of living is the only issue I have here.

 

[fskimospy]

Tell me you've never lived in Southern California without saying you've never lived in Southern California.

Maybe instead of getting your impressions of places frm propaganda designed to fill you with feelings you should actually go there.

I live here. Crime and homeless don't affect me in my day to day life. Cost of living is the only issue I have here.

I don't know, at least in San Diego the homeless problem is pretty bad. When I lived there it wasn't great but when I was back for almost a year fairly recently I was shocked at how much worse it had become.

 

[Amused]

I don't know, at least in San Diego the homeless problem is pretty bad. When I lived there it wasn't great but when I was back for almost a year fairly recently I was shocked at how much worse it had become.

It can be bad in places. But on the whole it doesn't affect your day to day life. Virtually non-existent in the burbs.
I had more problems with homeless at my business in the Midwest than I do here.

 

[nakedfrog]

Missouri going HAM on their anti-trans stuff now, adding an emergency rule under the "Merchandising Practices Act".
You have to be annually re-diagnosed with gender dysphoria, you have to be diagnosed 3 years in a row to qualify for care, you have to have at least 15 sessions of therapy over 18 months, you have to be screened for autism, you may be denied due to comorbidities like depression, you have to be annually assessed to see if you're suffering "social contagion", and they must track all adverse effects (expected or unexpected) for 15 years. And this applies to adults as well.

 

[fskimospy]

It can be bad in places. But on the whole it doesn't affect your day to day life. Virtually non-existent in the burbs.
I had more problems with homeless at my business in the Midwest than I do here.

Yeah I agree it's a city proper/coastal area issue primarily but in those areas it's bad.

 

[kitkat22]

Missouri going HAM on their anti-trans stuff now, adding an emergency rule under the "Merchandising Practices Act".
You have to be annually re-diagnosed with gender dysphoria, you have to be diagnosed 3 years in a row to qualify for care, you have to have at least 15 sessions of therapy over 18 months, you have to be screened for autism, you may be denied due to comorbidities like depression, you have to be annually assessed to see if you're suffering "social contagion", and they must track all adverse effects (expected or unexpected) for 15 years. And this applies to adults as well.

I love when politicians practice medicine. I have a trans friend in MO. She is very frustrated right now.

I posted this today:

I was contemplating many of the words used against transgender individuals. Several of these words have been used on me. The old phrase of "sticks and stones" and something about names starts to feel wrong. Words do hurt, especially when blasted over a megaphone.

Here are many of the words - freak, devil, monster, pedophile, confused, slow, stupid, non-existent, demon, mutant, imps, wrong, ugly, mental illness and delusional.
By no stretch is this all-encompassing as there are plenty of synonyms and turn of phrases people have come up with to dig a knife in with words. As you can imagine, when groups get together, these words are echoed and shared to the point a stereotype is created and transgender people are villainized.

This is evidenced by the violence against LGBTQ individuals and can be easily seen in hate crime statistics. The hate is very real to people needing to move states or go into hiding. The laws being created across the country are indeed causing harm.

There are two of the words I want to address above - delusions and mental illness. Both words actually have no bearing on transgender individuals but are currently being used as catch phrases around the country.

Delusional disorder is a type of psychotic disorder characterized by delusions. A delusion is an unshakable belief in something that's untrue but almost everyone knows is false. There are different types - erotomanic - a belief that you are connected with someone important. Grandiose - an overinflated sense of self. Jealous - a belief that someone is unfaithful, but with no proof. Persecutory - a belief that someone is spying or attempting to harm you. Somatic - a delusion that people believe they have a parasite or bad odor. Mixed - some combination of the above.

Delusions doesn't include transgender individuals. Interestingly, there is strong genetic evidence to support a cause of people being transgender. It tends to be polygenetic and there is plenty of research to support this.

The second is mental illness. This stems from a time when "transgender" or "gender dysphoria" was known in the past to be part of the psychiatry text book. As time has evolved and our understanding of psychiatry and the medical world has improved, we have found gender dysphoria is placed into different categories of diagnosis and treatment. People like to fall on a psych diagnosis because it seems nebulous and ill-defined. Interestingly, as we learn more about mental illness, we are identifying, with no surprise, genetics also plays a role in "mental illness." Schizophrenia, bipolar, autism, ADHD, depression, anxiety can actually be connected to genetics and our development. These genes play a role in neuron development and signaling and can lead to any of the above mentioned conditions.

Perhaps, this is why every major medical society in the US takes gender dysphoria seriously and agree of its existence and importance on treatment. While a lot of the research is still relatively new, there is vast evidence to support treatment of individuals with gender dysphoria.

Long-term study of 40 years - (is this long enough? - do we need 10 more years? 20 years?)

Long-term Outcomes After Gender-Affirming Surgery: 40-Year Follow-up Study - PubMed

Gender-affirming surgery is a durable treatment that improves overall patient well-being. High patient satisfaction, improved dysphoria, and reduced mental health comorbidities persist decades after GAS without any reported patient regret.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Greenman]

Tell me you've never lived in Southern California without saying you've never lived in Southern California.

Maybe instead of getting your impressions of places frm propaganda designed to fill you with feelings you should actually go there.

I live here. Crime and homeless don't affect me in my day to day life. Cost of living is the only issue I have here.

I only lived in California for 60 years, perhaps I just need to spend a bit more time there.