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Pepsi90919

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Originally posted by: Eli
Wish I could partake.
Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
STOP BREAKING THE LAW

Yes, because we should all follow the law to the letter and be good little shee- er, citizens.

:roll:

Ever think that maybe the laws can or should be changed? No?

Well, they can. And perhaps they should.

Remember that alcohol used to be against the law. How about them beans? You drink? Yes?

How would you feel if it were suddenly against the law? Upset much? Maybe feel like your rights are being trampled on?

Yeah. Think about it.

No, I don't drink. However, laws are made for a reason. Prohibition lasted how long? We know it was a bad idea. Laws against cannabis have been around much longer. They're probably right. I personally think that cannabis, and for that matter, any state-of-mind altering substance is not something that should be used recreationally. Does that include alcohol? Perhaps. Lots of people can drink alcohol responsibly and be fine. Lots of children are also killed by drunk drivers.
The problem is with the lack of personal responsiblity. Lots of studies have been made into alcohol, and lawmakers have deemed it acceptable. Yes, lawmakers for the most part are morons. They're the best we're going to get. In the meantime, I'm going to follow the law. The law exists to protect this country and the people in it. I partake of the freedoms I get by being a US citizen with great joy, and breaking an established law is just wrong. You're taking something, your freedom, and not following the rules that go along with enjoying that.
If you think that cannabis should be in the same class as alcohol, great. You must realize that there are lots of people that disagree with you. And lots that agree. What matters is that nobody has come up with a good reason for the lawmakers of this country to repeal the laws banning the use of cannbis, but laws banning the use of alcohol have been repealed. That alone is proof that the is a difference.
So you want change, you want cannbis legalized? Okay, maybe not, but I'll assume so for the sake of argument. If you do, then go and do something about it. I'm going to venture a guess that most people who use cannabis haven't done anything substantial or meaningful, like writing a letter to their congressman. Now, what I'm about to say can be taken many ways, but please try to interpret it the spirit that I mean it. Perhaps it's just the stereotype speaking, but your average user of cannabis is not exactly an upstanding example of personal success. Yes, there are lots of counterexamples, and I'm sure that you're one of them. Whatever. Maybe there's more than correlation between 'Cannabis users are not shining examples of upright citizenship' and 'Cannabis is bad enough that it should not be used recreationally'.
that was a nice...rambling...thing. go smoke some herb and feel better.
 

MaxDSP

Lifer
May 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Originally posted by: Eli
Wish I could partake.
Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
STOP BREAKING THE LAW

Yes, because we should all follow the law to the letter and be good little shee- er, citizens.

:roll:

Ever think that maybe the laws can or should be changed? No?

Well, they can. And perhaps they should.

Remember that alcohol used to be against the law. How about them beans? You drink? Yes?

How would you feel if it were suddenly against the law? Upset much? Maybe feel like your rights are being trampled on?

Yeah. Think about it.

No, I don't drink. However, laws are made for a reason. Prohibition lasted how long? We know it was a bad idea. Laws against cannabis have been around much longer. They're probably right. I personally think that cannabis, and for that matter, any state-of-mind altering substance is not something that should be used recreationally. Does that include alcohol? Perhaps. Lots of people can drink alcohol responsibly and be fine. Lots of children are also killed by drunk drivers.
The problem is with the lack of personal responsiblity. Lots of studies have been made into alcohol, and lawmakers have deemed it acceptable. Yes, lawmakers for the most part are morons. They're the best we're going to get. In the meantime, I'm going to follow the law. The law exists to protect this country and the people in it. I partake of the freedoms I get by being a US citizen with great joy, and breaking an established law is just wrong. You're taking something, your freedom, and not following the rules that go along with enjoying that.
If you think that cannabis should be in the same class as alcohol, great. You must realize that there are lots of people that disagree with you. And lots that agree. What matters is that nobody has come up with a good reason for the lawmakers of this country to repeal the laws banning the use of cannbis, but laws banning the use of alcohol have been repealed. That alone is proof that the is a difference.
So you want change, you want cannbis legalized? Okay, maybe not, but I'll assume so for the sake of argument. If you do, then go and do something about it. I'm going to venture a guess that most people who use cannabis haven't done anything substantial or meaningful, like writing a letter to their congressman. Now, what I'm about to say can be taken many ways, but please try to interpret it the spirit that I mean it. Perhaps it's just the stereotype speaking, but your average user of cannabis is not exactly an upstanding example of personal success. Yes, there are lots of counterexamples, and I'm sure that you're one of them. Whatever. Maybe there's more than correlation between 'Cannabis users are not shining examples of upright citizenship' and 'Cannabis is bad enough that it should not be used recreationally'.
that was a nice...rambling...thing. go smoke some herb and feel better.

:laugh:

It seems that the idiots so against are the ones that would probably benefit the most from it
 

whistleclient

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Apr 22, 2001
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never understood the 4/20 thing. as if stoners needed a special time or day to get high. all the stoners i know smoke 24/7.

 

Martin

Lifer
Jan 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
STOP BREAKING THE LAW

Well, not all of us can be perfect like you...after all, you never went over the speed limit, you never jaywalked and you most certainly never loitered or stepped on the grass where there were signs indicating you shouldn't.

DIE

I will, eventually. But until then, I'll continue to light up and enjoy it :)

At least kill the rationalization. Just because nobody else is perfect doesn't mean that it's okay for you to break the law.

You missed the point..completely. There are many many retarded laws out there that people simply ignore. You know, I just had about 5 drinks, a little buzzed, feeling nice. How does it make any ****** sense that I can be able to have a few drinks, but not smoke a joint? Pot laws are retarded, and like other retarded laws, I'll just ignore them.

You frothing at the mouth about law will not change anyone's mind...
 

TitanDiddly

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Dec 8, 2003
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Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
STOP BREAKING THE LAW

Well, not all of us can be perfect like you...after all, you never went over the speed limit, you never jaywalked and you most certainly never loitered or stepped on the grass where there were signs indicating you shouldn't.

DIE

I will, eventually. But until then, I'll continue to light up and enjoy it :)

At least kill the rationalization. Just because nobody else is perfect doesn't mean that it's okay for you to break the law.

You missed the point..completely. There are many many retarded laws out there that people simply ignore. You know, I just had about 5 drinks, a little buzzed, feeling nice. How does it make any ****** sense that I can be able to have a few drinks, but not smoke a joint? Pot laws are retarded, and like other retarded laws, I'll just ignore them.

You frothing at the mouth about law will not change anyone's mind...

If that was your point, why didn't you say it in the first place?

And you know what? You may be right. I know at least one smoker who outranked me in high school. Like I said before, it's all about personal responsiblity, like almost every other issue in the world. There's simply no way to govern it unless you say "You can smoke, you cannot". That'd be good, but it flies in the face of our whole 'Everyone must be treated the same' thing we have going here in the US.
 
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Wow you guys talk about doing illegal things and when people tell you to stop breaking hte law, you get offended?

I mean you're on the wrong side of the law and you want to tell people to shut up? You have like 0 moral credibility backing you up, so just shut up. Threadcrapping? No, we're saying the truth and what's right.
 

Martin

Lifer
Jan 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
STOP BREAKING THE LAW

Well, not all of us can be perfect like you...after all, you never went over the speed limit, you never jaywalked and you most certainly never loitered or stepped on the grass where there were signs indicating you shouldn't.

DIE

I will, eventually. But until then, I'll continue to light up and enjoy it :)

At least kill the rationalization. Just because nobody else is perfect doesn't mean that it's okay for you to break the law.

You missed the point..completely. There are many many retarded laws out there that people simply ignore. You know, I just had about 5 drinks, a little buzzed, feeling nice. How does it make any ****** sense that I can be able to have a few drinks, but not smoke a joint? Pot laws are retarded, and like other retarded laws, I'll just ignore them.

You frothing at the mouth about law will not change anyone's mind...

If that was your point, why didn't you say it in the first place?

And you know what? You may be right. I know at least one smoker who outranked me in high school. Like I said before, it's all about personal responsiblity, like almost every other issue in the world. There's simply no way to govern it unless you say "You can smoke, you cannot". That'd be good, but it flies in the face of our whole 'Everyone must be treated the same' thing we have going here in the US.

So the solution is obvious: let everyone smoke up and let them worry about the effects. The truth of the matter is that pot doesn't have much of an effect on people's lives, I've seen enough smokers to realize that the losers would have turned out to be losers regardless of whether they used weed. To give you some anecdotes:
-two guys I know started out with weed then moved on to other things, one fo them us currently in rehab. they're 21 and their lives are going nowhere - they had trouble graduating from HS, are in debt from CCs and don't have jobs. I think one of them is even geting married..
-two other guys (the ones I usually smoke with) went the same path as me: HS easily, then unversity (one's in CS, one in Chem Eng, I'm in Comp Eng). The CS guy is working for IBM, I'm working for RIM, the other guy will liekly be going out west for a job in the oil industry. Most poeple would call that "successful", at least certainly on that path...
-thee other guys (the ones I live with right now) also went the same path, HS, university. 2 are in CS, 1 in Chem Eng. All have decent marks, decent jobs etc.

Fact is, by making pot illegal, you are not helping people you are only creating obstacles for people like me. If one were to follow the same line of reasoning, we'd have to ban alcohol, tobacco, fatty foods...there would be no end to the madness.
 

Xionide

Diamond Member
Apr 20, 2002
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5 years ago today I joined this fine website. And in honor of this fine day I will smoke a fatty.
 

douglasb

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Apr 11, 2005
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Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
STOP BREAKING THE LAW

MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS

Seriously, I don't engage in what these guys do, but when I was young, my mother taught me the common courtesy to mind my own business. There should be a law against making ridiculous posts, probably just to get a reaction. Here's one: worry about you own life, what you say means nothing to these people. I can promise you that not one single person on this earth will follow or break a law because you tell them to on this forum.
 

douglasb

Diamond Member
Apr 11, 2005
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Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Originally posted by: Eli
Wish I could partake.
Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
STOP BREAKING THE LAW

Yes, because we should all follow the law to the letter and be good little shee- er, citizens.

:roll:

Ever think that maybe the laws can or should be changed? No?

Well, they can. And perhaps they should.

Remember that alcohol used to be against the law. How about them beans? You drink? Yes?

How would you feel if it were suddenly against the law? Upset much? Maybe feel like your rights are being trampled on?

Yeah. Think about it.

No, I don't drink. However, laws are made for a reason. Prohibition lasted how long? We know it was a bad idea. Laws against cannabis have been around much longer. They're probably right. I personally think that cannabis, and for that matter, any state-of-mind altering substance is not something that should be used recreationally. Does that include alcohol? Perhaps. Lots of people can drink alcohol responsibly and be fine. Lots of children are also killed by drunk drivers.
The problem is with the lack of personal responsiblity. Lots of studies have been made into alcohol, and lawmakers have deemed it acceptable. Yes, lawmakers for the most part are morons. They're the best we're going to get. In the meantime, I'm going to follow the law. The law exists to protect this country and the people in it. I partake of the freedoms I get by being a US citizen with great joy, and breaking an established law is just wrong. You're taking something, your freedom, and not following the rules that go along with enjoying that.
If you think that cannabis should be in the same class as alcohol, great. You must realize that there are lots of people that disagree with you. And lots that agree. What matters is that nobody has come up with a good reason for the lawmakers of this country to repeal the laws banning the use of cannbis, but laws banning the use of alcohol have been repealed. That alone is proof that the is a difference.
So you want change, you want cannbis legalized? Okay, maybe not, but I'll assume so for the sake of argument. If you do, then go and do something about it. I'm going to venture a guess that most people who use cannabis haven't done anything substantial or meaningful, like writing a letter to their congressman. Now, what I'm about to say can be taken many ways, but please try to interpret it the spirit that I mean it. Perhaps it's just the stereotype speaking, but your average user of cannabis is not exactly an upstanding example of personal success. Yes, there are lots of counterexamples, and I'm sure that you're one of them. Whatever. Maybe there's more than correlation between 'Cannabis users are not shining examples of upright citizenship' and 'Cannabis is bad enough that it should not be used recreationally'.

By the way, that avatar looks a lot like George Washington, who broke quite a few laws AND grew Cannabis. However, I think the one he is more known for is treason against the British government. I guess he was wrong for going against an established law, huh?

And just to blow this ENTIRELY out of the water:
Laws against cannabis have been around much longer.

Alcohol was made illegal in 1919. Heroin was legal until 1924. According to your logic, Marijuana is worse than alcohol, which, in turn, is worse than heroin. Cocaine was also available over-the-counter and in Coca-Cola right around the time of Prohibition. If you want to know why Cannabis is illegal, do some actual research on the law instead of just looking at a few high, red-eyed, lazy morons. There is a doctrine from a U.S. Congressman (I forget which one) stating that Cannabis was the cause for white women listening to jazz music and falling into the arms of negro men. The law was created out of fear and ignorance, and the reason it has not been (and never will be) repealed is twofold. First, the U.S. government has enough problems with alcohol - if you think alcohol isn't that bad, think again - alcohol and alcohol-related incidents are one of the top 3 leading causes of death in this country. The other reason would be that it's impossible to tax something anyone can grow at their own home. So don't worry, you will remain in a perfectly safe America, free from the evils of cannabis, where you, Billy Bob, and the rest of your buddies are free to drink "wife-beating juice" to your heart's content.
 

j00fek

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Dec 19, 2005
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i get out at noon est.

going home and smoking myself silly, picked up OZ of freshies yesterday :D
 

Jawo

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Originally posted by: douglasb

There is a doctrine from a U.S. Congressman (I forget which one) stating that Cannabis was the cause for white women listening to jazz music and falling into the arms of negro men. The law was created out of fear and ignorance, and the reason it has not been (and never will be) repealed is twofold.

What a classic example of Congressional BS!

Hope everyone enjoys today!
 

Eli

Super Moderator | Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Originally posted by: Eli
Wish I could partake.
Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
STOP BREAKING THE LAW

Yes, because we should all follow the law to the letter and be good little shee- er, citizens.

:roll:

Ever think that maybe the laws can or should be changed? No?

Well, they can. And perhaps they should.

Remember that alcohol used to be against the law. How about them beans? You drink? Yes?

How would you feel if it were suddenly against the law? Upset much? Maybe feel like your rights are being trampled on?

Yeah. Think about it.

No, I don't drink. However, laws are made for a reason. Prohibition lasted how long? We know it was a bad idea. Laws against cannabis have been around much longer. They're probably right. I personally think that cannabis, and for that matter, any state-of-mind altering substance is not something that should be used recreationally. Does that include alcohol? Perhaps. Lots of people can drink alcohol responsibly and be fine. Lots of children are also killed by drunk drivers.
The problem is with the lack of personal responsiblity. Lots of studies have been made into alcohol, and lawmakers have deemed it acceptable. Yes, lawmakers for the most part are morons. They're the best we're going to get. In the meantime, I'm going to follow the law. The law exists to protect this country and the people in it. I partake of the freedoms I get by being a US citizen with great joy, and breaking an established law is just wrong. You're taking something, your freedom, and not following the rules that go along with enjoying that.
If you think that cannabis should be in the same class as alcohol, great. You must realize that there are lots of people that disagree with you. And lots that agree. What matters is that nobody has come up with a good reason for the lawmakers of this country to repeal the laws banning the use of cannbis, but laws banning the use of alcohol have been repealed. That alone is proof that the is a difference.
So you want change, you want cannbis legalized? Okay, maybe not, but I'll assume so for the sake of argument. If you do, then go and do something about it. I'm going to venture a guess that most people who use cannabis haven't done anything substantial or meaningful, like writing a letter to their congressman. Now, what I'm about to say can be taken many ways, but please try to interpret it the spirit that I mean it. Perhaps it's just the stereotype speaking, but your average user of cannabis is not exactly an upstanding example of personal success. Yes, there are lots of counterexamples, and I'm sure that you're one of them. Whatever. Maybe there's more than correlation between 'Cannabis users are not shining examples of upright citizenship' and 'Cannabis is bad enough that it should not be used recreationally'.
At least you put some thought into it. :)

It's much more complicated than that, though... as you alude to in the 2nd half of your post.

For every alcoholic, there are 10 that use alcohol responsibly(yet still recreationally). It's the same way with cannabis.

There is no logical reason for it to be against the law. It is against the law not because it was "deemed unacceptable for society", but because there were huge lobbies with a lot of money against it.

Doesen't matter anyway. It being against the law means nothing. People who want to use it are going to use it, just like people who wanted to drink alcohol still drank during prohibition.

:)