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The Nvidia G-Sync Thread

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Grooveriding said:
lol TN. Not worth $1.

Where are the IPS panels with gsync announced ?
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Think this is IPS?

Price makes me think it has to be, or terribly priced.

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At least things are starting to pop with G-Sync, I was starting to get worried... Bring on the selection!
 
This is actually a 1440p panel. Not 4k. It should also be PLS, which is basically the same as IPS. PLS is Samsung's version of IPS - where LG makes "IPS". I do think PLS is better than IPS personally.

Anyway. 1440p. Still. I want one.
 
The model numbers are different. There is a 4k, and and 1440P. Odd thing is, the price is the same.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7627/asus-at-ces-2014

Has a 1ms response time, so it's going to be TN.

I guess the primary difference in price is the refresh max. More than likely, obviously, the 4K monitor will only be 60hz.
 
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So ASUS is going to sell a 27 inch TN 4k display for $800 and a 27 inch TN 1440p screen for $800.

My derp logic is saying does not compute.
 
While you may not like TN, TN has advantages that IPS doesn't. Now TN displays no longer have the resolution disadvantage. I'm curious if all the Gsync monitors require really good response times, or maybe we just have to wait for IPS if you want IPS.
 
BallaTheFeared said:
So ASUS is going to sell a 27 inch TN 4k display for $800 and a 27 inch TN 1440p screen for $800.

My derp logic is saying does not compute.
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28 inch 4k. I think the difference between them is the max refresh rate, so you are paying for the extra hz of the 1440p, or sacrificing the extra hz for the 4K detail/resolution.
 
With all the 1440p 120+hz TN displays, are they going to have 1440p 3D Vision 2 monitors as well? That is what I'd most want.
 
bystander36 said:
While you may not like TN, TN has advantages that IPS doesn't. Now TN displays no longer have the resolution disadvantage. I'm curious if all the Gsync monitors require really good response times, or maybe we just have to wait for IPS if you want IPS.
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Resolution was never a disadvantage of TN, there just was no one willing to make anything above a 1080p panel using the tech, as most users of higher resolutions wouldn't want a TN. With the 4K hype that looks to be changing.

With all the inherent IQ disadvantage of TN, I think a high resolution TN screen would be about the most disgusting monitor you could buy with those issues amplified by the higher resolution.

Hopefully some IPS panels with gsync get announced. 120hz I am not so interested in with reviews of gsync saying it's best usage case is for sub 60fps with framerates above that not making much of a difference using gsync.
 
bystander36 said:
One thing you can also take away from this announcement is that the ASUS exclussivity until Q3 was bunk: http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/CES-2014-Philips-27-144Hz-Monitor-G-Sync

Phillips is supposed to have theirs coming in the spring.
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Considering this Phillips monitor is going for $649 and it's a 27" 1080P TN panel, it sounds like the Asus 1ms panel @ 1440P is going to be TN panel as well. The extra $150 will be for the increased resolution. I haven't seen any IPS or PLS panels below 6ms.... well... as of yet.
 
Grooveriding said:
Resolution was never a disadvantage of TN, there just was no one willing to make anything above a 1080p panel using the tech, as most users of higher resolutions wouldn't want a TN. With the 4K hype that looks to be changing.

With all the inherent IQ disadvantage of TN, I think a high resolution TN screen would be about the most disgusting monitor you could buy with those issues amplified by the higher resolution.

Hopefully some IPS panels with gsync get announced. 120hz I am not so interested in with reviews of gsync saying it's best usage case is for sub 60fps with framerates above that not making much of a difference using gsync.
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Resolution has never been an option, so yes, that has been a disadvantage.

What makes you think higher resolutions cause the TN problems to be worse? What makes you think the TN problems can't be improved? The Samsung 120hz TN displays used to get a lot of IPS users to switch back for 120hz, because they were good and many thought the color was just as good as their IPS screens.

Yes, I hope IPS monitors will be released as well. I doubt I'll buy one, but it will give more options.

Now the big question is if IPS will work with G-sync well. It does appear they are targeting fast response times. It could be they are doing it because the G-sync chip offers 2 modes, the lightboost like mode, and v-sync alternative and they want both modes to work well.

Anyways, these are good options. They are improved from what we had before in terms of the Lightboost and G-sync options.
 
That is on the 1440p 120+hz TN displays, which never existed before. It's not exactly a big markup just on the G-sync part, but also a new product cost.

You'll see how much of a market G-sync is, when comparing the same displays that have and don't have G-sync.
 
bystander36 said:
Are you seriously offended by me saying you don't have to purchase one, or any other product that cost extra? It is not an attack, just a statement of fact. No one is forcing anyone to pay extra for new features.
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No. I'm not offended. It's just that it avoids a reasonable discussion and instead turns it into about the individual. If you are just going to dismiss what I say like that, why bother responding. You are basically responding to me but saying what I think is irrelevant.
 
3DVagabond said:
No. I'm not offended. It's just that it avoids a reasonable discussion and instead turns it into about the individual. If you are just going to dismiss what I say like that, why bother responding. You are basically responding to me but saying what I think is irrelevant.
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That's not at all what I said. What I was saying is you don't have to pay for any feature upgrade. As in, no one does. You were saying that what if people had to pay an extra $100 for added features. My point is, you already are faced with added cost for features. This is just another one.

And yes, "you" do not have to pay for it, but there are many others who will pay for it.
 
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