The Nvidia G-Sync Thread

[24601]

Nice little disclaimer at the bottom of this page:



Maybe wait for the displays with it integrated, guys.

Translation: You mess up your own display by incompetence, it's your own fault.

I don't see anything wrong with that.

 

[3DVagabond]

Translation: You mess up your own display by incompetence, it's your own fault.

I don't see anything wrong with that.

That's not all it says. It also says they aren't responsible for voiding the Monitor's manufacturer warranty.

 

[NTMBK]

Translation: You mess up your own display by incompetence, it's your own fault.

I don't see anything wrong with that.

Did you watch the video? The process involves using a pair of pliers to snap off part of this chassis! I personally wouldn't mess around with this sort of thing with absolutely no warranty cover. But then again, I'm not hardcore.

 

[Arkadrel]

Just saw this video: How-to-install G-sync:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMKpJr0KTC8#t=576

Holy shyt no way your avg joe is gonna be able to do that without ruining their monitor. That looks risky as all hell.

 

[Lonbjerg]

So average joe spends $200 upgrading his monitor now?


Hillarious!!! :biggrin:

 

[Arkadrel]

So average joe spends $200 upgrading his monitor now?


Hillarious!!! :biggrin:

So are you saying that its only for very few or small group of people?
Like the ones that will take a CPU and lap it, and their CPU coolers.
Ones that buy custom parts and self asemble liquid cooling?

G-sync will always be a something non mainstream, for the few?

 

[sontin]

Seriously?

The DIY kit is for people who want to modify their monitor and not wanting to wait.
So yes, it's only for a small amount of people.

 

[Lonbjerg]

So are you saying that its only for very few or small group of people?
Like the ones that will take a CPU and lap it, and their CPU coolers.
Ones that buy custom parts and self asemble liquid cooling?

G-sync will always be a something non mainstream, for the few?

Nice try.

Seriously?

The DIY kit is for people who want to modify their monitor and not wanting to wait.
So yes, it's only for a small amount of people.

Kudos!

The number of people doing physical modifications on their hardware (no, plugging a graphics card in a PCIe slot dosn't count) is very limited.

But at least we are talking about a real product availbe today,
I won't buy monitors and make a DIY GSync mod.

But I will get tripple Gsync monitors sometime in Q2-Q3...I will just pay for the assembly...and pay some premium for being ahead of mainstream...as anywhere else.

 

[NTMBK]

So are you saying that its only for very few or small group of people?
Like the ones that will take a CPU and lap it, and their CPU coolers.
Ones that buy custom parts and self asemble liquid cooling?

G-sync will always be a something non mainstream, for the few?

Monitors with G-Sync built in will be available, so it's not like G-Sync will require this level of mad hacking. This particular DIY kit will, however, be only for a very select few.

Given that it only works with one model of monitor, I had kind of hoped that they would make it fit properly without tearing off parts of the chassis though. :\ They could have just put a hole in the PCB to allow the post to pass through. Oh well.

 

[Teizo]

So are you saying that its only for very few or small group of people?
Like the ones that will take a CPU and lap it, and their CPU coolers.
Ones that buy custom parts and self asemble liquid cooling?

G-sync will always be a something non mainstream, for the few?

Common sense dictates that the DIY Kit is for a very small group of people, and Nvidia is well aware of that.

Common sense also dictates that Nvidia will remind people that doing this will void the monitors warranty, and they aren't responsible for the damages you do to your monitor if you screw up.

Are you mad that Asetek will not replace your 290X because you goofed up your water cooling loop?

 

[Keysplayr]

Looks like they found something new to latch onto for a while. Gotta give em some rope, right?

 

[Erenhardt]

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[NTMBK]

Frankendisplay or vaporware? Not the best release from nv by any standards. They are aiming at very small market - enthusiasts that are willing to pay a large sum for g-sync that don't have enough gpu power to maintain 60fps. Who would that be? Fanboys comes to mind first

Asus have already announced that you will be able to buy this display with the G-Sync module preinstalled, so you will still have a valid warranty and won't need to break out the pliers. Neither vaporware nor "frankendisplay".

And "can't maintain 60fps"? The Asus display goes up to 120Hz, so G-Sync will help maintain smooth refreshes in the full 30-120FPS range. :\

 

[bystander36]

Asus have already announced that you will be able to buy this display with the G-Sync module preinstalled, so you will still have a valid warranty and won't need to break out the pliers. Neither vaporware nor "frankendisplay".

And "can't maintain 60fps"? The Asus display goes up to 120Hz, so G-Sync will help maintain smooth refreshes in the full 30-120FPS range. :\

Not to mention, with less latency. DX at 60hz with 60 FPS and v-sync adds 17ms of latency.

 

[Kronvict]

Frankendisplay or vaporware? Not the best release from nv by any standards. They are aiming at very small market - enthusiasts that are willing to pay a large sum for g-sync that don't have enough gpu power to maintain 60fps. Who would that be? Fanboys comes to mind first

Seems like an ignorant statement. Have you even researched what G-sync can do or is capable of?

 

[Zanovar]

Frankendisplay or vaporware? Not the best release from nv by any standards. They are aiming at very small market - enthusiasts that are willing to pay a large sum for g-sync that don't have enough gpu power to maintain 60fps. Who would that be? Fanboys comes to mind first

Oh cmon that sounds like sour grapes to me,this tech is going to be huge imo but hey dont fret your little head im sure amd will come up with something comparable in the next few years then we will all be happy,including you.

 

[bepo]

In my opinion the biggest benefit for this tech will be smoothing the transition to higher res monitors when GPU's might not keep up. 1440p is 1.78x the pixels vs 1080p, 4k is 4x the pixels. If gsync can make 40-60 fps look really good then high res monitors can be playable today without dropping over $1k in GPU's. I don't think 1080p at 120Hz matters so much as 1440p or 4k at 60Hz or less.

I also wonder what kind of hardware and interfacing the DIY kit uses, how much of that is common and can be adapted to other monitors?

 

[3DVagabond]

Nice try.



Kudos!

The number of people doing physical modifications on their hardware (no, plugging a graphics card in a PCIe slot dosn't count) is very limited.

But at least we are talking about a real product availbe today,
I won't buy monitors and make a DIY GSync mod.

But I will get tripple Gsync monitors sometime in Q2-Q3...I will just pay for the assembly...and pay some premium for being ahead of mainstream...as anywhere else.

Agreed these kits are for people who A, own this particular monitor, B Own an nVidia G-Sync capable card, C, Are willing to spend $200 to upgrade that monitor and D, are willing to do fairly serious warranty voiding hardware mods (or pay someone an additional ~$100 to do it for them). Small small small market, indeed. As you say, it does get the tech into the wild though.

As far as triple G-Sync... How would you drive them? You need 3xDP and I don't believe that MST supplies enough bandwidth.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Preview of NVIDIA G-SYNC, Part #2 (Input Lag)

http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/preview2/

 

[Mand]

Yes, it is very clear that V-sync Off doesn't have much input lag, and G-sync doesn't fix it.

What G-sync does fix is the input lag caused by having V-sync ON, especially if you triple buffer it which is typical, and there is no judder if your framerate drops below your monitor's native refresh rate because there is no native refresh rate to try to maintain anymore.

The other thing it does is that as compared to V-sync off, there is no screen tearing, ever.

It'd be nice if they had bothered to test V-sync On triple buffered and compared that input lag to G-sync, as that's the whole point of them talking about input lag in the first place.

 

[omeds]

That's quiet impressive, roughly on par with vsync off.

 

[sontin]

Nothing can be faster than V-Sync off.
But to be nearly on the same level is a huge archivement when you know that you have no stuttering and no tearing...

 

[BrightCandle]

Wow its basically the same as Vsync off, but with no tearing and no stutter. That delivers!!!!

 

[96Firebird]

It'd be nice if they had bothered to test V-sync On triple buffered and compared that input lag to G-sync, as that's the whole point of them talking about input lag in the first place.

Yeah I was hoping they had done that too, but it looks like they didn't. That could show the real benefit over V-sync.

 

[smackababy]

Yeah I was hoping they had done that too, but it looks like they didn't. That could show the real benefit over V-sync.

It looks like they are simply trying to convey that G Sync adds almost nothing input lag wise over running with V Sync off, however, it gives the real improvements in tearing and stuttering.