The Murdaugh Murders in South Carolina

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Hulk

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The prosecution lost the case when the investigator doubled down on hearing "I did him so bad" even when hearing it slowed down clearly showed he said "They."

It is obvious the defense is basing it's case on prooving that the Police had a bias to make the evidence "fit" Alex. This one example is all the jury (or at least one of them is going to need) to convince themselves of "reasonable doubt" regardless what the rest of the evidence shows.

The result will be a hung jury.

I am so glad I was wrong and justice prevailed.
 
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BoomerD

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He's facing 30 years to life with no parole on these counts...if he's found guilty for the various financial crimes, several more decades. They'll bury him under the prison.
 

Jaskalas

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Dang.
Going to need to find the prosecutor's closing statements. Something about that must have been golden.
 

eelw

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Dang.
Going to need to find the prosecutor's closing statements. Something about that must have been golden.
Nah. Getting caught in that kennel video proving he was there before the murders was the end.

And it was telling the total lack of emotion shown on his face during the verdict. But yet all those crocodile tears during his testimony. Paw-paw 😭😭😭
 

Hulk

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Dang.
Going to need to find the prosecutor's closing statements. Something about that must have been golden.

It was very good. The fact that he was with them minutes before the murders and the fact that ballistics matched the spent shells near Maggie with shells shot by the kids around the compound meant it was the Murdaugh's gun that did killing. That is enough to show no one came in from the outside because I don't think most murderers go to murder someone expecting to find a gun they can use at the victim's residence.

Along with all of the other evidence, like his clothes and shoes from that day vanished, the rain coat with all the gun residue, the two guns that vanished, him telling the caregiver "it was 30 or 40 minutes, right?" when it was only 20 minutes. The 280 steps he took in 4 minutes after the murders. They had everything except a video of him committing the murders. His lying about the timeline. His strange behavior when the police arrived. The fact that he didn't call his other son for 42 minutes after he "discovered" the bodies. If someone was out to get them wouldn't you call your son and say "get to the police station!"

Like all of these narcissistic psychopaths he will deny this to the day he dies.

I have a feeling they will eventually find the guns in an old well on the property or something like that.
 
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I was laughing like crazy when the State in closing mentioned how this was like a Colombo murder where Columbo almost doesn't catch the murderer but the guy forgets one thing and that does him in.

In this case it was Alex's voice on that video. Paul and Maggie from the grave turned in their killer.
 

Muse

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This article implies he may have shot himself?


Superficially in the head, then what, disposed of the gun and called the police?

This case just gets curiouser and curiouser.
They haven't been talking about that wound to the head in news stories lately, but putting 2 and 2 together it would seem he was looking for a way to make it plausible that the family had an enemy and he shot himself, claiming it was a drive by. He needed an alibi. Guilty verdict today. I suppose he'll rot in jail the rest of his life.
 

Muse

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Well holy crap, what a bizarre case. They just caught the guy who shot Murdaugh. The theory that Murdaugh shot himself was incorrect but not far off. He paid some guy named Curtis Smith to shoot him in the head so that his son would collect on a $10 million life insurance policy.

So far Murdaugh has not been charged but I imagine there will be something pending. Filing a false police report at a minimum. Insurance fraud, for sure.


I'm sure more sordid details will emerge in the near future.

Taking bets on how long it takes before this is a limited series on Netflix.
This guy was a "prominent attorney." Apparently being a lawyer fucked him up so bad, twisted his sense of reality and right and wrong so badly, that he couldn't stop himself from imagining things he could do to change the narrative to where he'd escape culpability for his actions. I'm still not clear on the timeline, etc. What the boating accident was about. He evidently thought his wife and son were going to be part of him being convicted for embezzlement? So he offed them? :oops:
 

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This guy was a "prominent attorney." Apparently being a lawyer fucked him up so bad, twisted his sense of reality and right and wrong so badly, that he couldn't stop himself from imagining things he could do to change the narrative to where he'd escape culpability for his actions. I'm still not clear on the timeline, etc. What the boating accident was about. He evidently thought his wife and son were going to be part of him being convicted for embezzlement? So he offed them? :oops:

Short version.
He was addicted to Oxy. He will stealing money from his firm. Stealing settlement checks from clients, one a quadriplegic. Classic narcissistic psychopath. The world revolves around him. Stealing millions. Over the last 7 or so years he wasn't getting the big cases where he could steal the big settlements from the clients.

Then a few years ago his spoiled brat son all high after a party at night drove a boat into a pier and killed a girl. Alex got sued for millions he didn't have. The accountant at the firm and discovered his stealing. The walls were closing in around him. There was no way out. Sadly the murders were a diversion from his impending crash and burn, worked for a while as no one wanted to bring up the money due to his loss and he was given a pass and much sympathy.

Hard to get inside the mind of a psychopath. I have a feeling he was mad a Paul for the boat accident and getting him sued. Maggie was probably defending Paul and learning about his stealing from the firm.
 

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That was quick. Guilty on all counts.


As it should be, 👍

edit: one of the articles I read had a juror saying that they all agreed on the verdict 45 minutes into deliberation.
 
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Hulk

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As it should be, 👍

Yes. The fact that the video puts Alex with Paul and Maggie at 8:45 and their phones are effectively not being actively used after 8:50 tells the story.

Plus now we know how many steps it takes to clean up after a double murder. 280.

Thank God for On Star, GPS, and cell phones or a double murderer would be walking around acquitted today.
 
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This guy was a "prominent attorney." Apparently being a lawyer fucked him up so bad, twisted his sense of reality and right and wrong so badly, that he couldn't stop himself from imagining things he could do to change the narrative to where he'd escape culpability for his actions. I'm still not clear on the timeline, etc. What the boating accident was about. He evidently thought his wife and son were going to be part of him being convicted for embezzlement? So he offed them? :oops:

He was more than just a prominent attorney. His great-grandfather, his grandfather and his father were all DA’s for SC 14th district. Controlled criminal prosecution in that area from 1920-2006. Family gained loads of power and $$.
 

pcgeek11

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He's facing 30 years to life with no parole on these counts...if he's found guilty for the various financial crimes, several more decades. They'll bury him under the prison.


I'm pretty sure his financial crimes could carry up to 700+ additional years in jail... And that is what he has already admitted / confessed too.

 

eelw

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Wow juror interview. Initial vote was 2 innocent and 1 undecided. Only took 45 minutes to change those 3 to guilty on all counts.
 

Meghan54

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Wow juror interview. Initial vote was 2 innocent and 1 undecided. Only took 45 minutes to change those 3 to guilty on all counts.

And almost all the commentary right now seems to center on how the cell phone vid essentially convicted him. Timeline and all. Guess it was too much to ignore for any of the jurors in the end.
 

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I'm pretty sure his financial crimes could carry up to 700+ additional years in jail... And that is what he has already admitted / confessed too.


Yes, and one aspect of this is that he stole nearly $10 million from a bunch of different clients by settling their cases and pocketing all the money. But no one knows where all the money went. He says he spent lots of money on his oxy habit, but I saw commentary which said that $10 million would keep an addict in Oxy for over 10,000 years.

It's too bad if he hid the money successfully since his biggest swindle was related to the mysterious death of his family maid who allegedly fell down some stairs because their dog tripped her. Murdaugh tells her sons that they can collect from his homeowner's insurance and gives them the name of a lawyer who is a buddy of his. Then gets a $4.3 million settlement, and takes all of it for himself. Her sons will have trouble collecting.

That maid was essentially nanny for both Murdaugh's sons, helped raise them both. She had been family maid for his parents as well. What a piece of crap.

I watched both documentaries on this over this past week. It's quite an extreme tale of privilege and arrogance.
 

pcgeek11

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That maid was essentially nanny for both Murdaugh's sons, helped raise them both. She had been family maid for his parents as well. What a piece of crap.

I watched both documentaries on this over this past week. It's quite an extreme tale of privilege and arrogance.


He also took a few million or so from a settlement that the client was a quadriplegic.
 

dawp

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how long before they make this into a movie? this family was such a dynasty in the area for such a long time it'll be one hell of a story. I'm sure someone is already working on a screenplay.
 

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He was more than just a prominent attorney. His great-grandfather, his grandfather and his father were all DA’s for SC 14th district. Controlled criminal prosecution in that area from 1920-2006. Family gained loads of power and $$.
White people's problems.
 
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how long before they make this into a movie? this family was such a dynasty in the area for such a long time it'll be one hell of a story. I'm sure someone is already working on a screenplay.

There's already two documentaries. I give it about 3 more months before we see a dramatization. Probably a limited series. They could make 1-2 episodes on each of the deaths linked to the Murdaughs.
 

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We still don't have a trump movie but I'm sure it'll perform better than marvel trash at this point. I'd hope the warden places this shit fucker in solitary confinement for the rest of his life. Away from the other prisoners. Having every living waking moment of his life watched by guards. Ignored should he ask for anything. What a fucking pariah.
 

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His testimony was laughable and it didn't help to be heard on a video that places him at the scene. He should of got some pointers from Kyle Rittenhouse on using crocodile tears to his advantage. They could be sharing a cell, but the justice system utterly failed in regard to Rittenhouse.
 
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Muse

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how long before they make this into a movie? this family was such a dynasty in the area for such a long time it'll be one hell of a story. I'm sure someone is already working on a screenplay.
I hope it makes sense and isn't cavalier with the facts. I haven't begun to figure this all out. Seems mighty complicated, so many disparate events... the maid's death and aftermath, the supposed pact to have him killed and $10M insurance policy go to his son, the boating accident/death thing, murder of his wife and son, embezzlement of millions other larcenies, his drug addictions and the Jekyll and Hyde aspect of his personality, is there a bottom to this?
 

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His testimony was laughable and it didn't help to be heard on a video that places him at the scene. He should of got some pointers from Kyle Rittenhouse on using crocodile tears to his advantage. They could be sharing a cell, but the justice system utterly failed in regard to Rittenhouse.

Especially when you take into account the multitude of similarities between the Murdaugh and Rittenhouse cases.