It doesn't sound like they were trying to take law enforcement into their own hands. They followed her on public streets after she fled an accident she caused, while they waited for the police. She came out and threatened them, while I assume they were still on public streets. I think this is self defense.
If they had confronted her or tried to detain her, I would have a different opinion.
But this is another gun owner killed because if their gun ownership, if she didn't have a metal dick she wouldn't have came out making threats
Bingo. You can't have it where neither side can be blamed. If she survived no charges. If he survived no charges. If that is actually true, then basically society is sanctioning this sort of shooting as being acceptable and tolerable because it violates no laws or statutes when we all know it's really not acceptable. One hundred percent agree with you. The laws need to change.Look she fled the “accident”
He trespassed
She feared for her life
He feared for his
They both were armed
Per conservative legal doctrine he was left standing so he’s not guilty. If she was left standing she would be the one who was not guilty.
Remember we live in a free society and to conservatives the means being free from the consequences of your actions - even killing people.
The article never said they were on her property. You have no right to defend the public right of way in any state.You are totally taking the side of the people who now have no witness as gospel. You can stand your ground on your property, she had every right to tell them to get off according to the society of non stop gun violence the right wants to create
She was threatening them with a gun, too. The problem was everyone having metal penis enhancers. If she wanted people to hear her side of the story she should've called the police as opposed to threatening people with a gun on a public street.Well thank god the people who used their gun killed the other person otherwise we might of had a different side to the story.
If you don’t see the a problem with this type of outcome then you aren’t looking at the big picture.
She left the area, then came back with a gun, and threaten him on a public street. I think this violates standing your ground requirements even in Florida. Also he wasn't trespassing, he was on the public right of way.Look she fled the “accident”
He trespassed
She feared for her life
He feared for his
They both were armed
Per conservative legal doctrine he was left standing so he’s not guilty. If she was left standing she would be the one who was not guilty.
Remember we live in a free society and to conservatives the means being free from the consequences of your actions - even killing people.
According to police, Morales went inside, returned with a gun and a confrontation occurred in the road.
The article only tells a side of the story we have no idea where it's coming from. The people that chased her there? Did she really run out of her house and onto public property and threaten them? It just says she came out of her house with a gun. You are making a lot of assumptions. Crazy.The article never said they were on her property. You have no right to defend the public right of way in any state.
Regardless, stay inside and call the police. Have your gun ready if you think they are actually a threat. Or, if you actually think they are a threat, don't drive to your house while being followed.
I've been in a hit and run before, first thing the police asked was "are you following them?" "No" "Well we can't really do anything then."
She was threatening them with a gun, too. The problem was everyone having metal penis enhancers. If she wanted people to hear her side of the story she should've called the police as opposed to threatening people with a gun on a public street.
The article only tells a side of the story we have no idea where it's coming from. The people that chased her there? Did she really run out of her house and onto public property and threaten them? It just says she came out of her house with a gun. You are making a lot of assumptions. Crazy.
The fact you are taking this story as is and happily digesting it is highly disturbing.
According to police, Morales went inside, returned with a gun and a confrontation occurred in the road.
Again, the problem is everyone having a gun. If none these people had a gun, this would be a significantly different story. But if someone is threatening you with a gun, you should have the right to defend yourself.It doesn’t matter. If she felt threatened and shot and killed then would the kill have been justified? Well considering we wouldn’t have their side of the story the answer is yes.
Nether situation is acceptable nor should it allowed in a free society such as ours.
At this point, we don't know if there were a dozen, if any of them were angry bikers, or if anyone was on her lawn.Yeah but if you saw a dozen angry bikers on your lawn and you knew exactly why they were angry you might panic too.
We also have no idea what happened on the side of those who followed her home, when apparently it seems nobody was hurt, but you already seem to think it's a clean shoot. Craziness.At this point, we don't know if there were a dozen, if any of them were angry bikers, or if anyone was on her lawn.
3 months and that's it? Self defense or not, he should be charged with 2 counts of manslaughter
Unless she felt in fear and was thinking she had to defend herself and home.Once she comes out of the house with a gun she becomes the aggressor.
Why go outside your home? If we take the "castle" part of "castle doctrine" literally, being outside the castle walls is not good a defensive strategy.Unless she felt in fear and was thinking she had to defend herself and home.
They really should have waited a few houses away for officers to arrive.
Yet another case where access to guns made the situation worse for all involved. If she didn't have a gun she probably wouldn't have gone home and came out with it. If the biker didn't have a gun, he probably wouldn't have have been a dick in the first place.More, both sides.
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Biker says Volusia library worker pointed gun at him before she was fatally shot; witnesses say she waved gun
Andrew Derr says Sara-Nicole Morales pointed a gun at him. Two men say she waved gun after three men followed her home in road rage incident.www.news-journalonline.com
Slightly more complicated than that, because the biker started being a dick after she swerved towards him but didn't hit him. He then refused to move off her side and was yelling at her. She then decided to purposely hit him with her car. Responding to road rage with assault with a deadly weapon.Just a casual read, if this woman cased an accident following her home is allowed as long as they don't go on her property. Once she comes out of the house with a gun she becomes the aggressor.
Just a casual read, if this woman cased an accident following her home is allowed as long as they don't go on her property. Once she comes out of the house with a gun she becomes the aggressor.
The bolded part bothers me...Yet another case where access to guns made the situation worse for all involved. If she didn't have a gun she probably wouldn't have gone home and came out with it. If the biker didn't have a gun, he probably would've have been a dick in the first place.
Based on laws in Florida, I'm guessing either person could've claimed self defense.
The Mom running out with an unloaded gun is just stupidity to the extreme too.
