The most ironic moment in OWS to date

[ComradeBeck]

You guys are trying too hard.

I really do not see the point of them helping hype the movement with sad desperate smears.

But free promotion is free promotion! :thumbsup:

Today Israelis started their OWS. Their bullshitting is speeding the ball rolling faster then I thought. The camps here are 1500 people today.

Every time they and their pundits open their mouths more join.

 

[fskimospy]

Actually I do agree with some of what some of them are saying. Trying to find the signal through all the noise is pretty damn hard though. I'd certainly like to see some practical solutions to some of the problems they're throwing against the wall.

I agree, although you might find it difficult to address these issues without more government intervention.

The OWS people have already won at this point, and I'm glad for it. They totally changed the national conversation so that we're talking about what's happened with inequality in America over the last 40 years. I genuinely think that most people didn't realize just how bad it's gotten.

 

[glenn1]

How dare they? They're withholding food from homeless, starving beggars. They protest the 1%, while becoming their own 1%. Fucking hilarious.

They feel under appreciated? Who cares? They have the means, others have the need. Why aren't they doing their fair share?

Seems like they're equal opportunity - against either the top or bottom 1% depending on circumstance.

 

[Bowfinger]

Since we're wasting bandwidth with reposts ...

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/johnransom/2011/10/28/ows_goes_all_ows_on_itself

That's been posted --and knocked down -- at least twice in this thread already. It's a bogus issue, spoon fed to the wing-nuts to keep them properly enraged. Homeless drawn to free food, film at 11:00!!!!

The mission of OWS is not feeding New York's homeless population. They don't have the resources to do do, nor has anyone with suitably deep pockets offered to donate such resources (to the best of my knowledge). It should not surprise any rational person that they need to preserve their limited resources for those who are actively involved with their protests.

 

[Bowfinger]

And ...

Perhaps if they sold their iPhone's, iPad's, digital cameras, and weed stash, they could afford it?

Perhaps so. Or perhaps just one of the Wall Street crooks OWS is protesting could skip a dinner and pay for a decent meal for everyone. The point which you so naturally dodge is that's not the purpose of OWS.

I will say it is hilarious to see just how easily the sock puppets for the corrupt status quo are herded into action by such lame non-stories. They are most excellent Pavlovian sheep, too dull to realize how easily they're played.

 

[ComradeBeck]

This kind of accusation just brings to the forefront how full of propaganda these folks are, they do not even have a clue about reality anymore and think liberals are about "giving shit away".

Uhh , no one ever said that but *your* guys.


The disconnect with reality is hilarious when they get all uppity..about shit they made up in the first place.

Yeah, we really feel like hypocrites. How is that wifebeating going righties? Had any illict gay bathroom sex?

HOW DARE YOU NOT HAVE ILLICIT BATHROOM SEX....EVERYONE KNOWS CONSERVATIVES ALL HAVE GAY SEX! ALL DAY! EVERYDAY!

Now use this logic to make a post like this one:

OMGZ CONSERVATIVES ARE SKIPPING GAY BATHROOM SEX!! THEIR DICKS MUST HAVE FALLEN OFF...OMG LULZ!!! CONSERVATIVES ARE DICKLESS!



I hope you guys know how dumb this sounds to people.

Toodles bois!

 

[WHAMPOM]

OWS kitchen stops serving food and starts serving up delicious irony.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/zuccotti_hell_kitchen_i5biNyYYhpa8MSYIL9xSDL

How dare they? They're withholding food from homeless, starving beggars. They protest the 1%, while becoming their own 1%. Fucking hilarious.

They feel under appreciated? Who cares? They have the means, others have the need. Why aren't they doing their fair share?


"Give the peasants some scraps, we'll go have organic steaks."

Why wouldn't they be thrilled to offer these free meals? Would they rather the homeless starve?


Looks like they even got a little police state instituted. Did they have warrants for all those tents?

And so we all get a glimpse of this fabulous microcosm of a socialist society, in the heart of the financial capital of the world...
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You're incensed about the protestors not feeding every homeless person that comes? Did not know they were a charity. What amount of money did you contribute to feeding the homeless?

 

[PeshakJang]

You're incensed about the protestors not feeding every homeless person that comes? Did not know they were a charity. What amount of money did you contribute to feeding the homeless?

I would wager that I give more time and money to charities in a year than 99% of the people in that park.

You see, for all the talk of change and progress from the left, it's just that. Talk. They can continue shitting on police cars, eating gourmet meals, and tweeting about how awesome the drum circles were last night until they freeze and go home, and in the end they'll still be hipster losers who don't know a damn thing about anything, and are only capable of spouting the same tired nonsense and twinkling their fingers.

 

[ComradeBeck]

I would wager that I give more time and money to charities in a year than 99% of the people in that park.

More BS conjecture

and in the end they'll still be hipster losers who don't know a damn thing about anything, and are only capable of spouting the same tired nonsense and twinkling their fingers.

You know what, they are probably getting laid too, (I know I am) along with having a great time taking some actual action that is positive in life, unlike you obviously.

I hope it burns your ass up!

 

[Broheim]

You know what, they are probably getting laid too, (I know I am) along with having a great time taking some actual action that is positive in life, unlike you obviously.

I hope it burns your ass up!

getting a useful education or having a job is not positive?

 

[ComradeBeck]

getting a useful education or having a job is not positive?

I am not in school anymore. But yeah, the protesters camping don't get to drink and always are working at running the camp. But some locals go to school in the day. I am not a camper. I have business to run.

 

[Ausm]

Fox News viewers can read?!

I was thinking the same thing

 

[Lithium381]

eskimo - how are you calling the hypocracy a strawman? how can you defend this?
liberals / progressives are all about spreading the wealth and giving those at the bottom opportunity after opportunity to prove that they actually belong there - at the bottom, and for reason... they give away others tax dollars easily, but when it comes to giving up some of their simple niceties they can't wait to scrape the sand out of their vag's

 

[Moonbeam]

eskimo - how are you calling the hypocracy a strawman? how can you defend this?
liberals / progressives are all about spreading the wealth and giving those at the bottom opportunity after opportunity to prove that they actually belong there - at the bottom, and for reason... they give away others tax dollars easily, but when it comes to giving up some of their simple niceties they can't wait to scrape the sand out of their vag's

The terror of the knowledge of how worthless you feel demands that you look down on others. You are the bottom of human dreg because it's how you feel. Your demented notion that you have achieved something via your own efforts that makes you better than others is a transparency that will fool nobody with real self respect. All those worthless folk you see is who you are. You poor sick monster.

 

[OrByte]

I would wager that I give more time and money to charities in a year than 99% of the people in that park.

You see, for all the talk of change and progress from the left, it's just that. Talk. They can continue shitting on police cars, eating gourmet meals, and tweeting about how awesome the drum circles were last night until they freeze and go home, and in the end they'll still be hipster losers who don't know a damn thing about anything, and are only capable of spouting the same tired nonsense and twinkling their fingers.

Wow and I thought the "left" were the ones supposed to be "elitist" good job smarmypants!

What a wonderful display of fox news fallacious reasoning once again OP.

For I don't know any progressive that is willing to offer criminals and professional homeless people free food just because. Which isn't the purpose of OWS anyway

I do know plenty of bleeding heart libruls wanting to feed the hungry though.

 

[PeshakJang]

Wow and I thought the "left" were the ones supposed to be "elitist" good job smarmypants!

What a wonderful display of fox news fallacious reasoning once again OP.

For I don't know any progressive that is willing to offer criminals and professional homeless people free food just because.

I do know plenty of bleeding heart libruls wanting to feed the hungry though.

They are on the street starving because of the banksters they spend all day protesting, aren't they?

Why should the protestors get to eat gourmet meals all day while the homeless starve? Arent they equally valuable to society? Or would you rather they starve?

The protestors obviously got lucky in life to be where they are. The homeless people were just unlucky. They are part of the 99% right?

For all the twisting going in by those trying to explain this, there has been no real answers.

To the bat cave, comrade!

 

[OrByte]

They are on the street starving because of the banksters they spend all day protesting, aren't they?

Why should the protestors get to eat gourmet meals all day while the homeless starve? Arent they equally valuable to society? Or would you rather they starve?

The protestors obviously got lucky in life to be where they are. The homeless people were just unlucky. They are part of the 99% right?

For all the twisting going in by those trying to explain this, there has been no real answers.

To the bat cave, comrade!

the criminal and professional homeless aren't protesting, are you sure?

Protesters are using resources that are valueable. The more resources misdirected the less time they are able to be out there protesting. Feeding criminals and professional homeless are the foodbanks and food kitchen jobs, not OWS.

Criminals and people which choose to be homeless are not part of the protest, which is the point

You are trying really too hard like Eskimo pointed out earlier. Take a breather once in a while. Go read up on fallacious reasoning. Take this as a teachable.moment to educate yourself. You can't assign bogus characteristics to a group of people then try to tear them down on it. That is a straw man fallacy and you are falling for it in practically every thread in here.

 

[dmcowen674]

They are doing an awesome job even with articles like this.

It puts righties in a tight wad. :thumbsup:

 

[fskimospy]

eskimo - how are you calling the hypocracy a strawman? how can you defend this?
liberals / progressives are all about spreading the wealth and giving those at the bottom opportunity after opportunity to prove that they actually belong there - at the bottom, and for reason... they give away others tax dollars easily, but when it comes to giving up some of their simple niceties they can't wait to scrape the sand out of their vag's

It's incredibly easy. This protest is not made to feed the homeless of NYC. There are way too many of them to do that, and it's not the right venue.

Similarly to how you can support increased aid to the homeless without housing one of them in your living room, you can be for more equitable distribution of wealth without feeding the homeless population of whatever city you happen to be in as well. What's so hard about that?

 

[Bowfinger]

I would wager that I give more time and money to charities in a year than 99% of the people in that park.

You see, for all the talk of change and progress from the left, it's just that. Talk. They can continue shitting on police cars, eating gourmet meals, and tweeting about how awesome the drum circles were last night until they freeze and go home, and in the end they'll still be hipster losers who don't know a damn thing about anything, and are only capable of spouting the same tired nonsense and twinkling their fingers.

I've got to say, from the tremendous knee-jerk derision and demonization some of you are dumping on these protestors, it seems like you must be scared shitless that these kids, in all their disorganized glory, may actually -- finally -- pose a well-deserved threat to the elite few that have systematically looted America over the last 30 years. You can play apologist to the corrupt status quo all you want, but they have valid concerns and unlike you, they've actually gotten off their over-indulged, middle-class asses and stood up to try to change things. I don't know if it's a flash in the pan or a movement with real legs, but at least they've shifted the debate away from all the usual phony wedge issues like gays and guns.

In fact, that must be what scares your masters the most. They've lost their crucial ability to control the conversation. Useful pawns like you notwithstanding, they can no longer ensure the left and right will be so distracted fighting each other that they remain oblivious to the pillaging of America. OWS doesn't have the polished propaganda points parroted by an army of nutter sock puppets, but they have something more. They have America's attention, a few at first, but the number just keeps growing.

 

[umbrella39]

It's fun to watch the Teahadists heads explode over OWS. Such transparent hypocrites...

 

[dmcowen674]

I've got to say, from the tremendous knee-jerk derision and demonization some of you are dumping on these protestors, it seems like you must be scared shitless that these kids, in all their disorganized glory, may actually -- finally -- pose a well-deserved threat to the elite few that have systematically looted America over the last 30 years.

You can play apologist to the status quo all you want, but they have valid concerns and unlike you, they've actually gotten off their over-indulged, middle-class asses and stood up to try to change things. I don't know if it's a flash in the pan or a movement with real legs, but at least they've shifted the debate away from all the usual phony wedge issues like gays and guns.

In fact, that must be what scares your masters the most. They've lost their crucial ability to control the conversation. Useful pawns like you notwithstanding, they can no longer ensure the left and right will be so distracted fighting each other that they remain oblivious to the pillaging of America.

OWS doesn't have the polished propaganda points parroted by an army of nutter sock puppets, but they have something more.

They have America's attention, a few at first, but the number just keeps growing.

Amen

This certainly has the righties on here in a tight wad :thumbsup:

 

[Bowfinger]

[ ... ] You can't assign bogus characteristics to a group of people then try to tear them down on it. That is a straw man fallacy and you are falling for it in practically every thread in here.

He's not "falling for it." He abusing it, intentionally and maliciously. A blind partisan forms his beliefs first, then invents whatever reality he needs to support it. This is especially true when demonizing opponents. No lie is too outrageous because the end justifies his means.

 

[dwell]

It's incredibly easy. This protest is not made to feed the homeless of NYC. There are way too many of them to do that, and it's not the right venue.

The protest is for the 99%, no? The protest is allegedly not for the police department but every rally I've seen the protesters ask the NYPD to cross the line because they too are the 99%. What's the difference between a cop crossing the line and a homeless guy?

The answer is OWS has no clear agenda. Nobody in OWS can seem to agree what the mission statement is so you just end up with contradictions and confusion.

 

[dmcowen674]

The answer is OWS has no clear agenda.

Nobody in OWS can seem to agree what the mission statement is so you just end up with contradictions and confusion.

Those against OWS cannot possibly know the mission because you are the target of the mission.