The most awesome invention / product ever?

[killster1]

Wouldn't a red LED nightlight be better?

of course redlight is better for your eyes, that is why your cellphone has a bluelight blocker i dont know what this thread is about even after reading the op i think it said fire starter log or something i didnt click it.

 

[Kaido]

Wouldn't a red LED nightlight be better?

I wanted one with a red LED, that would have been awesome, like a submarine haha

 

[Exterous]

Good news everyone! The KFC log is on sale at Walmart - just $3.48!

 

[snoopy7548]

Good news everyone! The KFC log is on sale at Walmart - just $3.48!

1/10. Didn't taste anything like chicken, now my head hurts.

 

[Red Squirrel]

The KFC log is so absurd, I actually do want to try it one day lol.

 

[Exterous]

The KFC log is so absurd, I actually do want to try it one day lol.

I would buy in if I had a place to burn one.
Hmm...maybe I'll buy one anyway and make a friend burn it

 

[Red Squirrel]

I would buy in if I had a place to burn one.
Hmm...maybe I'll buy one anyway and make a friend burn it

I'll probably randomly bring it to my parent's house when we have a camp fire since I tend to bring lot of wood for them. I wonder if it's better if I don't even tell them about it so everyone is confused why it smells like KFC lol. Just sneak it in with the rest of the logs.

 

[Kaido]

Hmm, CHICKEN SNOB DETECTED! and MSG is harmless unless your sensitive to it.

I REALLY wish I had been introduced to using MSG at home years ago! Totally leveled-up my cooking:

https://www.reddit.com/r/kaidomac/comments/lmct6l

 

[IronWing]

I REALLY wish I had been introduced to using MSG at home years ago! Totally leveled-up my cooking:

Petition to strip Kaido of Kitchen Overlord title initiated.

 

[Captante]

I REALLY wish I had been introduced to using MSG at home years ago! Totally leveled-up my cooking:

https://www.reddit.com/r/kaidomac/comments/lmct6l

Just wait until you discover the joys of artificial flavors and colors!

MSG is "harmless" the same way table-salt is harmless.... its actually slightly less likely to jack up BP but still less MSG/salt in your diet = healthier.

(also any more than a trace-amount of MSG added to cooking gives me a pounding headache but naturally occurring MSG in foods like soy-sauce doesn't seem to have the same effects)

 

[Ajay]

Just wait until you discover the joys of artificial flavors and colors!

MSG is "harmless" the same way table-salt is harmless.... its actually slightly less likely to jack up BP but still less MSG/salt in your diet = healthier.

(also any more than a trace-amount of MSG added to cooking gives me a pounding headache but naturally occurring MSG in foods like soy-sauce doesn't seem to have the same effects)

Magnesium Chloride has less effect on BP than Sodium Chloride. MSG - Mono-Sodium-Glutamate is a totally different beast. And glutamate causes headaches in a fair number of people and is a death wish for migraine sufferers.

 

[Captante]

Magnesium Chloride has less effect on BP than Sodium Chloride. MSG - Mono-Sodium-Glutamate is a totally different beast. And glutamate causes headaches in a fair number of people and is a death wish for migraine sufferers.

There an echo in here?

Bottom line while its not poison, MSG is NOT healthy in any way and is a effectively an artificial flavor-enhancer.

 

[Torn Mind]

Chumps. MSG has always made me feel better, although the rice eaten in conjunction with it might play a role.

But I'm not eating it with wine or in "processed foods". It's usually used to make soup tastier, sometimes to make meat tastier.

 

[Captante]

Chumps. MSG has always made me feel better, although the rice eaten in conjunction with it might play a role.

But I'm not eating it with wine or in "processed foods". It's usually used to make soup tastier, sometimes to make meat tastier.

Smoking crack or shooting heroin can make you feel "better" too.

 

[Ajay]

MSG has always made me feel better

Glutamate a psychotropic chemical that acts as an excitatory neurotransmitter. So, yeah, maybe it makes you feel better for a bit.

 

[Torn Mind]

Smoking crack or shooting heroin can make you feel "better" too.

If it means increasing the palatability of things like leafy greens, it's totally worth it.

I haven't eaten much of it for the past couple of years though. I've become a salmon and some liver meat eater these days, and soups are rarely made.

 

[Kaido]

Just wait until you discover the joys of artificial flavors and colors!

MSG is "harmless" the same way table-salt is harmless.... its actually slightly less likely to jack up BP but still less MSG/salt in your diet = healthier.

(also any more than a trace-amount of MSG added to cooking gives me a pounding headache but naturally occurring MSG in foods like soy-sauce doesn't seem to have the same effects)

MSG is the delicious hill I'm willing to die on (and probably will!)

 

[Kaido]

Well, let's take a deep-dive into MSG!

Health Debunked: Is MSG Really Bad for You? - GoodRx

We have negative connotations with MSG, but the science says that MSG isn’t actually bad for you. So where did this idea come from? We separate fact from fiction in the latest installment of our Health Debunked series: MSG.

www.goodrx.com

As for the science around the safety of MSG, decades of research have not found a connection between MSG and the symptoms that people associate with consuming it.

Is It OK To Eat MSG?

MSG isn’t the villainous ingredient it was once thought to be. A registered dietitian explains what research shows.

health.clevelandclinic.org

This sensitivity is sometimes called “MSG symptom complex,” but research shows that it only affects a very small percentage of people who are sensitive to MSG — and even then, these effects are short-term and should disappear in less than an hour.

What’s more, the FDA says such side effects are most likely to occur after a person with MSG sensitivity has consumed 3 grams or more of MSG without food. That, in itself, is pretty unlikely, given that most people consume MSG in food, and most food contains less than 0.5 grams of added MSG.

Are you sensitive to MSG or is it something else?

Sometimes, Czerwony says, a societally ingrained bias against MSG leads people to assume they’re having a reaction to MSG, which can prevent them from identifying the real culprit.

“Your symptoms might be from something else in the food,” she says. “There’s MSG in fast food, snack foods, seasoning blends, instant noodles, frozen meals — all foods that are highly processed and can cause issues like flushing, headaches or a change in blood pressure from your body’s response to high salt content and other ingredients.”

So, it may very well not be the MSG that’s making you feel ill, but the fact that you’re eating foods that are already highly processed, fried, full of sodium, etc.

Questions and Answers on Monosodium glutamate (MSG)

Questions and Answers on Monosodium glutamate (MSG)

www.fda.gov

FDA considers the addition of MSG to foods to be “generally recognized as safe” (GRAS). Although many people identify themselves as sensitive to MSG, in studies with such individuals given MSG or a placebo, scientists have not been able to consistently trigger reactions.

These adverse event reports helped trigger FDA to ask the independent scientific group Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology (FASEB) to examine the safety of MSG in the 1990s. FASEB’s report concluded that MSG is safe. The FASEB report identified some short-term, transient, and generally mild symptoms, such as headache, numbness, flushing, tingling, palpitations, and drowsiness that may occur in some sensitive individuals who consume 3 grams or more of MSG without food. However, a typical serving of a food with added MSG contains less than 0.5 grams of MSG. Consuming more than 3 grams of MSG without food at one time is unlikely.

Judge for yourself! MSG is a permanent part of my home kitchen these days, particularly for soups & meats!

 

[Torn Mind]

MSG is the delicious hill I'm willing to die on (and probably will!)

I wouldn't over do it. One meal twice a week. Two meals max every week.

 

[Kaido]

Glutamate a psychotropic chemical that acts as an excitatory neurotransmitter. So, yeah, maybe it makes you feel better for a bit.

A lot of research is going into the gut microbiome & the gut-brain axis. Very interesting stuff:

Could dietary glutamate play a role in psychiatric distress? - PMC

Glutamate is an amino acid that functions as an excitatory neurotransmitter. It has also been associated with somatic and psychiatric distress and implicated in the pathophysiology of psychiatric disorders such as schizophrenia. Ingestion of dietary ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

In the context of diet, glutamate is an amino acid that also functions as an excitatory neurotransmitter.. Dietary sources of glutamate include bound forms such as those found in meat and free forms which can be supplied through consumption of flavor-enhancing food additives like monosodium glutamate (MSG) as well as soy sauce and parmesan cheese

Ingestion of dietary glutamate such as monosodium glutamate (MSG), has been mechanistically linked with greater distress among patients with chronic pain conditions, though findings have been equivocal. Preliminary research suggests that a MSG restricted diet confers beneficial effects on somatic symptoms and well-being for some individuals with chronic pain conditions. In addition to associations with somatic distress, glutamate has been associated with the onset and progression of psychiatric symptoms. Thus, the role of dietary glutamate in psychiatric distress represents an underdeveloped and potentially important area for future research aimed at clarifying pathophysiological mechanisms and identifying targets for dietary intervention in psychiatric illnesses.

 

[Muse]

Dunno, I've seen MSG denigrated for many decades as an additive in processed foods along with a score of other things including food colorings, preservatives, emulsifiers, extenders, things you can't pronounce, too-much-salt, nitrites, nitrates... frankly, I enjoy my food without that stuff.

Discovered a new favorite yesterday: I've bought dozens and dozens of bags of Late July organic multigrain tortilla chips at Costco for years and years but they suddenly disappeared (I asked yesterday and they don't see them in inventory or indications of being ordered). I picked up a bag of Food Should Taste Good multigrain tortilla chips instead. Not organic but I think it's easily the equal of Late July for taste. Probably won't get to snag it on sale, but it is what it is... yesterday $5.99 for 28.8 ounce bag. No other chip at Costco looks to compete right now if you want healthy and tasty. Almost the equal to Late July for sodium (75mg/ounce-of-chips). Most chips have AT LEAST double that.

 

[Ajay]

Well, all I know for sure, is that both myself and my wife suffer from migraines and need to take medication to keep them under control. We quickly found out that ingesting foods made with MSG gave us a severe migraine within a couple of hours after eating. So, no more MSG. We both have to be very careful with anything containing Cacao, red wine and gluten. BooHoo.

 

[Muse]

Well, all I know for sure, is that both myself and my wife suffer from migraines and need to take medication to keep them under control. We quickly found out that ingesting foods made with MSG gave us a severe migraine within a couple of hours after eating. So, no more MSG. We both have to be very careful with anything containing Cacao, red wine and gluten. BooHoo.

Dang, I can eat any of that stuff... nothing gives me a bad headache, EVER! Knock on wood, there's a meal out there that would, I'm sure.

 

[Kaido]

I wouldn't over do it. One meal twice a week.

I spent a few weeks researching MSG in-depth a year or three ago. Whenever I'm in truth-seeking mode, I have to overcome my 3 internal biases:

1. What do I hope for?
2. What am I afraid of?
3. What have I already pre-decided to be true?

Regarding MSG, I lived under the "Chinese Restaurant Syndrome" trope growing up. So that rings bell #3, which is that I'd already pre-decided "MSG is bad for you" to be true, simply by default, with no data to back up that assertation. The way I see truth is simple:

* What does the data say?

While we don't know everything about everything, let's look at the currently-available data! Objectively, based on 40+ years of research on MSG:

1. Anyone can be allergic to anything, including MSG. Based on studies, MSG only affects a very small percentage of people are sensitive to it.
2. Within that group, the effects are short-term & typically disappear in less than an hour.
3. Independent testing has tied consumption within that group to 3 grams or more of MSG without food (a typical serving of food with added MSG is less than 0.5 grams).

Multicenter, double-blind, placebo-controlled, multiple-challenge evaluation of reported reactions to monosodium glutamate:

https://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(00)44233-8/fulltext

Conclusion: The results suggest that large doses of MSG given without food may elicit more symptoms than a placebo in individuals who believe that they react adversely to MSG. However, neither persistent nor serious effects from MSG ingestion are observed, and the responses were not consistent on retesting. (

A Harvard study on MSG: (really good read)

https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/8846733/Sing05.pdf

“Why doesn’t everyone in China have a headache?”

MSG exists in a lot of foods, under a lot of different names:

Here’s how food companies sneak MSG into foods

You're probably eating it much more than you think.

www.businessinsider.com

So my takeaway is:

1. I've been eating it my whole life. I haven't personally experienced any of the negative systems associated with it, so for me, based on the data, no reason to keep it off the "allowed" list. I'd imagine 30+ years is a long enough time to see if I'd get any issues from it!
2. Based on the data, a small segment of people do react negatively to it, and the reaction typically lasts under an hour - so if you are sensitive to it, avoid it! If you are personally mega-sensitive to it, ultra-avoid it!
3. I'd imagine that a lot of the foods it in cause the problems, i.e. ultra-processed, shelf-stable foods, restaurants that re-use oil over & over again, etc.

For me, personally, I choose to use it in my home cooking & wish that I had done it sooner!

 

[Kaido]

Well, all I know for sure, is that both myself and my wife suffer from migraines and need to take medication to keep them under control. We quickly found out that ingesting foods made with MSG gave us a severe migraine within a couple of hours after eating. So, no more MSG. We both have to be very careful with anything containing Cacao, red wine and gluten. BooHoo.

Wow even cacao too?