The Most Anticipated MMORPG

[Solarium]

donno anymore. Tried Lineage2 for over a year... but the community sucked. WoW has a horrible community, and no death penalty WTF?

actually, all North American MMO communities SUCK. communities in Asia are SOO much better. NA community are a bunch of whiners.

major turn off for a ton of mmo's. well, the giuld wars community is pretty good.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: Solarium
donno anymore. Tried Lineage2 for over a year... but the community sucked. WoW has a horrible community, and no death penalty WTF?

actually, all North American MMO communities SUCK. communities in Asia are SOO much better. NA community are a bunch of whiners.

major turn off for a ton of mmo's. well, the giuld wars community is pretty good.

wow.. you took the words right out of my mouth. ok granted you were my roommate and we played L2 together for a bit lol.

anyways, ya peter, i think i quit giuldwars for now hah. well, until i get superbored heh.

Can't seem to get into a lot of MMO's as of late. RF online looks promising as I've tried the korean beta, but then again, Korea's community is SOOO much better than NA's community.

 

[Continuity28]

Originally posted by: Solarium
donno anymore. Tried Lineage2 for over a year... but the community sucked. WoW has a horrible community, and no death penalty WTF?

actually, all North American MMO communities SUCK. communities in Asia are SOO much better. NA community are a bunch of whiners.

major turn off for a ton of mmo's. well, the giuld wars community is pretty good.

It's either whiners or elitists, take your pick.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: Continuity28

Originally posted by: Solarium
donno anymore. Tried Lineage2 for over a year... but the community sucked. WoW has a horrible community, and no death penalty WTF?

actually, all North American MMO communities SUCK. communities in Asia are SOO much better. NA community are a bunch of whiners.

major turn off for a ton of mmo's. well, the giuld wars community is pretty good.

It's either whiners or elitists, take your pick.

lol exactly. sigh, sometimes I want to move to Korea or Japan because their MMO communities are FAR SUPERIOR to here. makes any mmorpg a real good experience compared to here. Too bad Lineage2 and other MMO's in korea now has IP blocking so people from north america can't play in their servers 🙁.

well, any game that is licensed for play in north america, you can't play in the asian servers 🙁.

damn it.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Solarium
donno anymore. Tried Lineage2 for over a year... but the community sucked. WoW has a horrible community, and no death penalty WTF?

actually, all North American MMO communities SUCK. communities in Asia are SOO much better. NA community are a bunch of whiners.

major turn off for a ton of mmo's. well, the giuld wars community is pretty good.

So true. I pretty much disliked the game mechanics and content of FFXI, but what made the game fun for me was the community... which i was playing JP prime-time, so 95% of my times were with the Japanese... and even though most of the time i couldn't communicate with them, i had a blast. Then my work changed, and i was mostly NA time, and the game just sucked for me.

 

[Velk]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: EpsiIon

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Vanguard Saga of Heroes

This will be my next MMORPG. It is being made by a team composed of a good deal of ex Everquest 1 dev team members.

Wow. Some of the screenshots on that website remind of this Penny Arcade news post (scroll down to the screenshot and surrounding comments).

You've got to be kidding? The screenshots are as good as any games that are out right now, including games like FEAR.

BTW, they're using the Unreal 3 engine.

They aren't actually - modded version 2.

Probably a good thing, the machines to run limited first person shooters on unreal 3 don't exist yet let alone an MMO with huge numbers of models and wide sweeping landscapes.

 

[Velk]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

The next great one will come from a franchise, I know that. Some big name as yet untapped. It will probably involve Raph Koster whose experience with UO and SWG surely makes him the absolute king of MMORPG design at this point thanks to what he's learned from mistakes and successes with both games.

*choke*

I know we are talking about subjective standards of 'greatness' here but still, Raph Koster + franchise ?! Absolute king of MMORPG design ?!

 

[Seeruk]

Three Words


DARK AND LIGHT


www.darkandlight.net

EDIT: For the Lazy 🙂 With some nice stuff bolded 🙂

Discover the first unique MMORPG world:
No zones, no loading time, all Dark and Light players within the same world
A complete, original and easy-to-use automated transportation and warp system
A medieval world of 15 000-square-mile of land (not including seas)
A strong emphasis on immersion thanks to a horizon view up to a distance of 30 miles away.
Fly in the air without restrictions with your own dragon, glider and parachute
Choose to explore whenever you want, no need to fight on a daily basis.
Hot spot management system: wherever you are in the huge world of DnL? , you can call for or be asked for help to conquest, fight, defend.


Experience an unprecedented immersive environment :
Dynamic and unique weather management: a DnL? day is 84 minutes...take time to watch sunrises, sunsets, the Milky Way and constellations!
480 days per year, with 4 seasons: real-time weather changes from snow to rain, to beautiful sunshine.
One sun, two moons and a constellation management system that changes according to the time of the year, and has influences upon crafting!
Global ecosystem: some monsters feed upon others, crop fields grow according to the seasons?
Original soundtrack : more than 12 music tracks, 1h30 of captivating music


A new medieval fantasy MMORPG where game design led to strong requirements: a game with a long lifespan, and advanced management options
An immediate sensation of freedom thanks to the unique world
Entirely dedicated to evolve according to gamers in-game decisions and strategies: DnL? game rules will allow gamers to manage their own DnL? storyline, create their own events to set their plans of conquest or fortresses attacks.
Six main game-play systems devoted to perpetual evolution through gamers? actions
Fortress attacks governed by an open time-line per realm
Warrior NPCs you may hire to fight for you
Choose the Bandit Mode; become a soldier of fortune with an enhanced experience, but many risks at hand!
A deep storyline that allows rich and varied game options and opportunities
A Game-mastering team in five languages entirely dedicated to enhancing the role of players in a truly interactive scenario: English, French, German, Spanish and Italian


Master DnL? while experiencing two evolving axies for every character: combat and social:
Choose whether you wish to specialize or not, in harmony with skill trees for every character
Rich career paths: choose between specialization and versatility
A political organization that allows you to become a lord, baron, count, duke, and even the king, by bargaining, negotiating? and being smart!
Trade skills and jobs are set up to allow you to develop your character without having to fight on a daily basis
A new resource discovery process
The combat system allows you to assault a fortress or to besiege sources of mana


Introducing a deep and addictive storyline
13 realms: three non-PvP kingdoms, ten kingdoms to conquer (PvP allowed)
12 races, 14 classes, 27 equipment slots per character and many specific slots per skill
The Gods? history and characteristics are the roots of the Dark and Light universe. They create their race?s respective background and, according to Human beliefs, they influence races actions and choices, both in combat and craft


Technical features
300 000 polygons rendered per frame for the landscape, thanks to the exclusive Mafate? 2.0 engine
EAX? support and 7.1 compatible
Tree rendering enhanced by Bionatics? technology

 

[Zugzwang152]

Vanguard will be my next MMO. It won't dethrone WoW, not with WoW expansions coming out, but it will do a better job than Everquest II, and hopefully will kill Lineage 2 and FFXI, at least in NA.

 

[Continuity28]

Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Vanguard will be my next MMO. It won't dethrone WoW, not with WoW expansions coming out, but it will do a better job than Everquest II, and hopefully will kill Lineage 2 and FFXI, at least in NA.

I don't think FFXI is going anywhere any time soon... why would you want these to die off anyways?

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: TheRaven2156
Please list which one and when it comes out. I want to get into a new one in, but i want to play it from launch.

Good objective, IMO, getting in on a launch of an mmorpg is an entirely different experience than joining one late. There will be hundreds of people doing the exact same quests and experiencing the same events alongside you and you will watch some of the biggest guilds on the server get formed very early as people band together to tackle different objectives. Very fun.

I would suggest watching all mmorpgs and not just one, you never know based on the hype which one is going to be the next big hit. Try to get into betas when you can because they give you a good chance to see how the game is turning out.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: Seeruk
Three Words


DARK AND LIGHT

Seriously dude, this game sucks. If it doesn't get canceled just before release, then it'll just slowly bomb out post-release. It sounds good on paper, but it's not. Trust me, I beta'd a similar game that got canceled, and I even spent a day in DnL beta(which was HORRID).

None of those fancy features you listed matter if the game blows.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Vanguard will be my next MMO. It won't dethrone WoW, not with WoW expansions coming out, but it will do a better job than Everquest II, and hopefully will kill Lineage 2 and FFXI, at least in NA.

The player base should be better with most of the Battle.net kiddies in WoW instead of Vanguard, although it will have its fair share, seeing how it will be an xbox live title.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Vanguard will be my next MMO. It won't dethrone WoW, not with WoW expansions coming out, but it will do a better job than Everquest II, and hopefully will kill Lineage 2 and FFXI, at least in NA.

The player base should be better with most of the Battle.net kiddies in WoW instead of Vanguard, although it will have its fair share, seeing how it will be an xbox live title.

No, there's no Xbox version in the foreseeable future. Maybe eventually, but it won't be in 2006.

http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showpost.php?postid=571949&postcount=12

 

[Seeruk]

Originally posted by: Malak
Seriously dude, this game sucks. If it doesn't get canceled just before release, then it'll just slowly bomb out post-release. It sounds good on paper, but it's not. Trust me, I beta'd a similar game that got canceled, and I even spent a day in DnL beta(which was HORRID).

None of those fancy features you listed matter if the game blows.

Really? You beta'd a similar game and it sucked so this is going to suck? - that has to be one of the most ridiculous sentences I have ever seen on this board and that is saying something! (I beta'd EQ2 and it sucked so WoW is gonna suck too :roll: )

I have also spent time in the beta and I am guessing you are talking about 12months ago or something when it wasnt even worthy of the name alpha!

Hard to see how the game is gonna be cancelled when it's free prelude launches in 9 days and I played the D&L beta for a couple of days at my buddy's house less than 2 weeks ago, where without busting NDA on him.... it was looking very very sweet 🙂

It aint gonna be a blockbuster... it's gonna be one of those that bubbles away under the radar for a while before the less informed slowly cotton onto an awesome game ( a la Eve Online)

 

[xboxist]

Originally posted by: Continuity28
It seems 90% of current MMORPGs are high fantasy, and 95% of the newcomers are also high fantasy.... That's pretty dull.

Where are all the new sci-fi MMORPGs? :frown: It doesn't matter how much more people would rather play a high fantasy game, because the market is too saturated anyways.

I think that my most anticipated game ever would be a Shadowrun MMORPG of WoW-like quality/budget.

 

[RadioHead84]

Vanguard will be the next great MMORPG> Right now its slated to be out at Spring 06 but that could change. True Brad helped EQ be a camp fest and made it a hard game but this will be a little diffrent. THere are a lot of hardcore gamers following the game right now and Ithink they will be happy with the game. It will be harder then EQ(which isnt saying much) and give some challenge and a bigger range of expereinces. On the same hand Brad has said that while he loved EQ to...its not EQ and will also try to please the non hardcore.

 

[Malladine]

The fact that Brad McQuaid was behind the original EQ - a game my wife and I played twice for a combined 1.5 yrs - means that this game is worth watching for us. 18months doesnt sound like a lot, but when you consider that WoW got old in 3 months the first time and 1 month the second time...

I think he's a smart guy and if he's got good people around him and experienced mmo'ers testing, Vanguard should be a hit.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Seeruk
Three Words


DARK AND LIGHT


www.darkandlight.net

EDIT: For the Lazy 🙂 With some nice stuff bolded 🙂

You know, it's not really hard to make a game sound great on paper. Implementation is quite a different story. Seriously, a single world server for the entire community with no loading times, real-world horizon view, complete day and night cycles, seasons, an intricate weather system, modeled star fields, and aggricultural dynamics?

The first thought I had when read the Dark and Light ad/propaganda was: "Wow! I wonder if I can play it on my Phantom console!" :laugh:

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: RadioHead84
Vanguard will be the next great MMORPG> Right now its slated to be out at Spring 06 but that could change. True Brad helped EQ be a camp fest and made it a hard game but this will be a little diffrent. THere are a lot of hardcore gamers following the game right now and Ithink they will be happy with the game. It will be harder then EQ(which isnt saying much) and give some challenge and a bigger range of expereinces. On the same hand Brad has said that while he loved EQ to...its not EQ and will also try to please the non hardcore.

your post contradicts itself...you say brad made eq into a campfest and made it hard, but vanguard will be different. then you say that hardcore players will like vanguard because its harder than eq.

you make it sound like you don't like eq, but if this game is going to be like eq but harder, how can you like it?

any game thats a hardcore grind/camp fest isn't going to be bought by me.

 

[pontifex]

i don't see what the big deal is with Dark and Light. it looks like crap and i wonder if they can actually pull it off.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: pontifex
your post contradicts itself...you say brad made eq into a campfest and made it hard, but vanguard will be different. then you say that hardcore players will like vanguard because its harder than eq.

you make it sound like you don't like eq, but if this game is going to be like eq but harder, how can you like it?

any game thats a hardcore grind/camp fest isn't going to be bought by me.

Well, with Brad helping out, there is a good belief that the game will be hard and unforgiving similar to how EQ was. But there is also an understanding that they want to it to include casual gamers also and that they don't simply want to make EQ1 2.0. In other words, they are looking for a compromise somewhere in the middle ground. But just because Brad is involved isn't good enough for me to put any money down on the table. Although, I am deffinitely keeping an eye on it.

As far as Dark and Light goes, the hype surrounding it is VERY reminiscent of Horizons back when it had that dawn.org website where they used to talk about all the rediculously amazing concepts they were putting in the game. That isn't to say it won't be good, just makes me very cautious.

 

[EpsiIon]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: EpsiIon

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Vanguard Saga of Heroes

This will be my next MMORPG. It is being made by a team composed of a good deal of ex Everquest 1 dev team members.

Wow. Some of the screenshots on that website remind of this Penny Arcade news post (scroll down to the screenshot and surrounding comments).

You've got to be kidding? The screenshots are as good as any games that are out right now, including games like FEAR.

BTW, they're using the Unreal 3 engine.

If by "as good," you mean "as shiny," then yeah, I'd agree with you. Here are some examples of bad screen shots:

http://vanguardsoh.com/screenshots/qaliadesert_800.jpg
http://vanguardsoh.com/screenshots/combat002_800.jpg
http://vanguardsoh.com/screenshots/darkelf2_800.jpg
http://vanguardsoh.com/screenshots/qaliadesert2_800.jpg

Now, I'm not saying the game is ugly; the engine looks quite capable. I'm just saying that if I were making this game and I wanted to show how good it looked, I wouldn't post these screen shots.

Also:

Originally posted by: Looney
"the screenshots are as good as any games that are out right now"

No, they aren't. See above.

Originally posted by: Looney
"they're using the Unreal 3 engine"

Are you implying that using the Unreal 3 engine automatically makes things beautiful? Well heck, why is everybody hiring artists when they could be using the Unreal 3 engine!?

 

[Malak]

Vanguard doesn't look better than EQ2 IMO.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Malak
Vanguard doesn't look better than EQ2 IMO.

I would think that it would run far better and smoother, since they are using UT2k4's engine. Epic Games (or whoever is the dev of UT) does an excellent job with engines, not as good as carmack, but they just work and work well. I bet you will get far better graphics per system spec than with EQ2.