The mobile Athlon 64 and motherboards

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: jkresh
Also you might want to remove the msi from your list as they have said they wont be supporting it.

I'm on the fence right now. I'm still trying to get a feel for what the problem is. I sense it may just be MSI "quality" at work but I'll leave it up until I'm sure.

 

[jkresh]

ok, but the fact that at first they said they would support it and now, they have said over the phone and through email that they wont, does not make me hopefull of a solution (hence the rma).

 

[Bar81]

Forget the new Asus, THIS is the new asus:

http://athlonmb.com/image.php?IMGURL=http://www.athlonmb.com/images/computex2003/day1/sis_asus_big.jpg

I can't believe the dream board is finally going to see the light of day, Asus + SiS755/964 + S754 = happy happy home for my mobile

 

[jkresh]

not on asus's page yet, wonder how it will compare to the k8n-e and which will be out first?

 

[Bar81]

Yeah, I thought it was scrapped. Hoping for next month but all we know is that it's back. Shouldn't be any different except for difference in LAN I would think. Well, that and it sure as hell won't cost $200 As to first, who knows. With the K8N being pushed to the end of July, the K8S may hit by then. Hopefully, we'll start seeing reviews in the next couple of weeks with some of that info.

 

[LogiMobile22]

Hi everybody

I´m new to this brilliant forum.

After reading this thread I decided to assemble a system with AMD 3200+ mobile DTR (1,5v). Thanks bar81 for the info on that. I´m trying to make a quiet/powerful system but not a lot of overclocking to begin with (have not done that since celeron 300A!). Bought some stuff already but ran into trouble. I live in Iceland and I cannot get the Thermalright SLK-948U Heatsink anywhere. No one is stocking Thermalright products at all.

Well what to do? I got the ASUS V8 SE Delux and I need a heatsink that is QUIET and cools my DTR 3200+.

Has anybody tried something different than SLK-948U with a DTR chip? Like Zalman 7000?

Anybody....

 

[Bar81]

I've heard of people trying it in the forums at www.ocforums.com Try asking there in the AMD computing section.

 

[Diogenes2]

Oops..

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: jkresh
not on asus's page yet, wonder how it will compare to the k8n-e and which will be out first?

Turns out I got my hope's up for nothing. That's apparently a very old pic. Unless something magical occurs, it looks like the K8N-E is the last best hope. I'm sure you'll let us know

 

[Diogenes2]

Originally posted by: proneax

Originally posted by: Diogenes2
Just the opposite.. The screws ( the tension bar ) need to travel further to make up for the missing IHS..

The Die on the mobiles is about 2mm lower than the IHS.. So for a
good fit, the posts on the Zalman need to be shaved about 2 mm ..

I did this to test a DTR a while back, and when I switched back to my 3200+ I added some spacers to bring the posts back up..

I assume you were using the cnps-7000(a)?

I'm thinking of getting a 3200 dtr and a zalman to cool it.

So, I have 2 questions. #One: where did you shave the 2mm off? Position 1 or 2 in this pic:
Look Here

Also thinking maybe you could take some off of the washer (labeled 3 in the pic) or even the backplate.

Anyway, one last thing, what should I be looking for as far as making sure I'm not overtightening? Thier website shows to stop when the clips become flat on both sides, but lets pretend that I shave too much off the 'nipples,' how can i make sure I don't overtighten?

Looked up the specs on the 'lidded' and 'non-lidded' 754 packages and the IHS adds between 2.2 and 2.54 mm (height off pcb- die height) in case anyone cares.

I shaved the posts as in " 1 "...

 

[Diogenes2]

Originally posted by: LogiMobile22




Has anybody tried something different than SLK-948U with a DTR chip? Like Zalman 7000?

Anybody....

See my last post just above this one..

 

[jkresh]

just got the asrock in, realy hope the asus comes out in time and works. How do you remove the heatsink stand (whatever it is called) from the asrock, i see the 4 whiteplastic pins, just not sure what to do with them and dont want to force to hard and breakt the board.

 

[estew33]

Nice post TTT

 

[claspingbeast]

Where can i get a 3200+ DTR in the UK?

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: claspingbeast
Where can i get a 3200+ DTR in the UK?

Well, a fellow from the UK just bought a DTR CPU off of me here in the US so I would reckon that there is no place or if there is a place it's ridiculously expensive. I would guess the former given that outside of newegg.com there's no merchant that stocks the full line of mobile chips (there are a few US vendors that stock a couple of models here and there but I could never find what I needed except from newegg.com).

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: jkresh
just got the asrock in, realy hope the asus comes out in time and works. How do you remove the heatsink stand (whatever it is called) from the asrock, i see the 4 whiteplastic pins, just not sure what to do with them and dont want to force to hard and breakt the board.

I sent you a pm on this.

 

[annible]

Thank a lot.
I have some question.
My cpu is a DRT cpu and the processor part number is AMA3000BEX5AP.
How it is ? it seems to be C0 revision.
Can you introduce some motherboards which work properly in Bios and system?
Asus, Msi or Aopen? nForce3-150 or VIA K8T800?
Any way. Thank you.

 

[jkresh]

on boot with the asrock i am getting an error message, pid less then 1600mhz, press f1 to continue, and 0085 is on bottom right courner of screen, f2 gets me into bios (1.5), but i cant get past that message and f1 is not doing anything, asrocks page does not seem to list the meaning of error messages so i am not sure of what to do.

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: jkresh
on boot with the asrock i am getting an error message, pid less then 1600mhz, press f1 to continue, and 0085 is on bottom right courner of screen, f2 gets me into bios (1.5), but i cant get past that message and f1 is not doing anything, asrocks page does not seem to list the meaning of error messages so i am not sure of what to do.

You need to update the BIOS to 1.60 like the guide says. In the meanwhile just hit F2 go into the BIOS and hit no save and continue and you can go on but you might as well update the BIOS first.

 

[jkresh]

ok, didnt realise hitting f2 then discard and exit would bypass the error, bios updating now.

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: annible
Thank a lot.
I have some question.
My cpu is a DRT cpu and the processor part number is AMA3000BEX5AP.
How it is ? it seems to be C0 revision.
Can you introduce some motherboards which work properly in Bios and system?
Asus, Msi or Aopen? nForce3-150 or VIA K8T800?
Any way. Thank you.

Yes it is a DTR CPU and it is a C0 Revision. Any motherboard that supports DTR processors should support your CPU maybe even many that support the 1.4v mobiles. Just check through the motherboard list on the first post and see which ones have been tested with a DTR CPU (look in the [ ] area)

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: jkresh
how do i update the bios, cant get past that message?

Just don't save and exit the BIOS, it will continue the boot process and will go to the floppy first so just have a Win95/98 boot disk or similar in the drive and another floppy with the asrock flash utility and the 1.60 bios.

 

[kingshoc]

Has anyone tested the Mobile 2800 DTR 1.2v yet. If so could you post some results.

Thanks

 

[Bar81]

Sounds like you might be confused; there is no 2800+ DTR CPU. Are you talking about the mobile 2800 at 1.2v (1.8 Ghz with 512k L2 cache) or the mobile 2800 at 1.4v (1.6 Ghz with 1MB L2 cache)? I assume you're talking about the 1.2v CPU. I would encourage you to read the first post for information about mobile CPUs, including the CPU you seem to be interested in.

 

[jkresh]

ended up having to clean install xp afterall (never tried a reinstall of xp and apparantly you cant, it just deletes all the old files so you are stuck reinstalling all programs anayway). Is there a program like clockgen or a version of clockgen that works with the asrock, as i would like to be able to play with settings without wory about having to reset the cmos if i go a little high?