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The maxxed out iPhone 13 Pro Max is $1600.

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SaltyNuts said:
Meh, its like a once a year expense, who cares, just pay it and enjoy your device that is more powerful than a supercomputer from just a few years ago was lol....
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I am a metastatic cancer patient, I can’t just hand over $1;600 when my main computer is 7 years old. My iPhone XR is fully paid off, my iPad Air 4 is too. I think I will enjoy them and mull over getting a new computer
 
SaltyNuts said:
Meh, its like a once a year expense, who cares, just pay it and enjoy your device that is more powerful than a supercomputer from just a few years ago was lol....
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It's the difference between a toy and a tool. Phones have become toys, toy's that constantly anger me because they're so close to being a valuable tool. Because the market for toys is a hundred times larger than the market for tools, the toy aspect is the only part that gets refined or improved. Toy's sell, tools don't.
 
Keep in mind that Apple is partly pitching the iPhone 13 Pro line at filmmakers, not just well-off consumers. The 1TB models exist in part so creators can record more than a few minutes of ProRes footage. The $1,600 creators spend on a loaded phone could be worthwhile if it saves them from buying a far more expensive pro camera they don't really need.

My bigger beef is that Apple didn't bump capacity upgrades down the line. I would have liked to have seen the iPhone 13 Pro start at 256GB. Of course, 128GB is probably what helps Apple keep the price down, but when the company has to limit certain features for 128GB phone owners (ProRes is capped at 1080p)... that suggests capacities need to improve across the board.
 
Greenman said:
It's the difference between a toy and a tool. Phones have become toys, toy's that constantly anger me because they're so close to being a valuable tool. Because the market for toys is a hundred times larger than the market for tools, the toy aspect is the only part that gets refined or improved. Toy's sell, tools don't.
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See @Commodus post below yours, it's why there's different model iphones. They make a granny version too.
 
Greenman said:
It's the difference between a toy and a tool. Phones have become toys, toy's that constantly anger me because they're so close to being a valuable tool. Because the market for toys is a hundred times larger than the market for tools, the toy aspect is the only part that gets refined or improved. Toy's sell, tools don't.
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I mean what's wrong with hybrid toys/tools? What exactly should phone makers do to make them more tools? They give them great screens and processing power and memory, the tools are in the apps that are developed for the phones that can now run better and faster due to better specs and faster data. The apps are the tools.
 
You guys know that a perfectly usable regular iPhone 13 is like half this price, and even the Pro starts at $1000 right? And that the pricing quoted in the OP is for a new 1TB storage tier that the majority of people have no use for?

re: tools vs toys … at work we are seriously considering using two iphones as a stereo camera pair for high quality vehicle odometry for an underwater hull inspecting robot because it’s so much better and waaay cheaper than other purpose built options. Sounds like a tool to me.
 
A good start for making it a tool would be making it dockable, and having a full macos desktop with a real mouse, real keyboard, and real programs. I'd expect nothing less for $1.6k. Full access to the file system too.
 
I think the most I've paid for a phone is $120. It would be nice to own one that still gets updates and a decent camera though.
 
lxskllr said:
A good start for making it a tool would be making it dockable, and having a full macos desktop with a real mouse, real keyboard, and real programs. I'd expect nothing less for $1.6k. Full access to the file system too.
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Pretty obvious Apple's not going to do that because of the App Store and the search revenue.
 
Was just looking at the Verizon site. The 1 TB version of the iPhone Pro Max is $1599.99...less $800 trade-in for my Galaxy S9+...that phone has a normal trade-in of ~$65.

I have no need for the 1TB version...If I go this way, I'll probably get the 256mb version ($1199)...MAYBE the 512 ($1399)...but doubtful.
 
I'd actually probably consider making the switch to iPhone since the Apple ecosystem I think would make things easier for my Mom, and I'd get her an iPhone, iPad (I'd prefer if they'd make the Air a 2 n 1, or make a Surface Book like Macbook Pro; but then I'd prefer if I could cut out the phone and let her just use a headset connected to another device for calls and then do video chats with grandkids), and Watch, possibly AppleTV too (but this would probably be one of the last things - would hope for a TV/HomePod soundbar thing - and honestly it'd be awesome if it supported Kinect like motion tracking for gesture control as well as games and exercise apps).

Geekbabe said:
I don’t need a “ granny version” I need a screen bigger than 6.1 inch. Heck I have always liked bigger phones
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I wish they'd ditch the stupid restriction on non-phones for making phone calls/texting over cell networks. Its an absolutely asinine restriction at this point. The dumbest part is that it actually limits how much they could charge for those lines (since the carriers could say "well it can do calls/texts so its a full line"). Granted they probably look at it more like "well they'll have an expensive smartphone on a payment plan, and then we'll tack on a tablet for an extra $20 for data". And from Apple's point of view, iPhones are more expensive than iPads (would be curious about profit margins though).

I believe there was a rumor that Apple would be removing that limitation on iPads soon, but I'll believe it when I see it.

balloonshark said:
I think the most I've paid for a phone is $120. It would be nice to own one that still gets updates and a decent camera though.
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And that's why iPhones hold their value but Android ones tank pretty quickly. Its honestly something I don't understand why more people don't hammer Android for. Yes it gets mentioned some places, as even Google's own devices are only supported for 3 years. Its even worse for the non-Google ones as well.

The other thing I don't get. Look at the outrage over Windows 11 on here (a fucking tech forum). Yet I don't hear a peep from those same assholes with regards to yearly software version update of Android (in fact I see quite a few that seem to like that and even view it as an excuse to buy whatever the newest phone is basically every year), whilst they support the software and hardware even less. Yet I also tend to see those same assholes bitching incessantly about Apple? Where's the fucking consistency? I've pointed this out before too, when it came to Windows 10 (really every version of Windows since XP - not sure why there's some weird love for XP and like frigging 98, I'm not sure if its because of how old the people on here are and those were the OSes in the prime of them gaming or something - XP was possibly the biggest security risk of a major OS ever, and yet while those assholes cry about security/privacy issues of Win10 they pine for XP, WTF?)
 
Yep, if Apple would ditch the cellular restriction on the ipad, it would be a good thing IMO. Wifi calling is ok, but can be restrictive. Seems like a play to get people to buy more stuff....so can't really blame them tho
 
As a total side note every time I hear "Pro max" the Home Depot theme song comes up in my head. "The Wood Chopper 8000 Pro Max by Ryobi, get more done at the Home Depot!"
 
Commodus said:
Keep in mind that Apple is partly pitching the iPhone 13 Pro line at filmmakers, not just well-off consumers. The 1TB models exist in part so creators can record more than a few minutes of ProRes footage. The $1,600 creators spend on a loaded phone could be worthwhile if it saves them from buying a far more expensive pro camera they don't really need.

My bigger beef is that Apple didn't bump capacity upgrades down the line. I would have liked to have seen the iPhone 13 Pro start at 256GB. Of course, 128GB is probably what helps Apple keep the price down, but when the company has to limit certain features for 128GB phone owners (ProRes is capped at 1080p)... that suggests capacities need to improve across the board.
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128GB NAND costs at most $20, so it has little to do with keeping the price down. It has all to do with profit margins of course. This is the ancient Apple strategy of keeping the base model just a little lacking so that consumers will pay more for a spec bump. It's part of why their gross margins have been healthy for such a long time.

CNN Biz actually praised the pricing of the iPhone 13 line-up. :tearsofjoy:

www.cnn.com

Apple's iPhone 13 secret weapon is, surprisingly, its price | CNN Business

Apple's new iPhone 13 and 13 Pro lineup features all of the predictable upgrades: faster performance, longer lasting battery life, better screen and new colors.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
 
Google marketers are now huddled together trying to decide if they can bump up the price of the upcoming pixels by a 100 clams
 
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