"The Matrix" **Spoiler**

[Steve]

Matrix: Resurrection?

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: joedrake

Originally posted by: remagavon
The type of glass bows like that before it explodes. If you listen to the commentary they actually used real glass for that shot and searched high and low for a type of glass that would ripple like they wanted until they found it. So, presumably, a real building could have been made using that material. When morpheus comments on him being "the one" in that scene, he is referring to Neo instinctively wrapping the rope around his arm and skidding to the edge of the building without fear, because he knows that Trinity will invariably be on the other end.

Someone knows their Matrix 😀

The 1st installment of the matrix is by far my most watched movie. I know almost every single line of the movie and piss off people watching it by saying the upcoming lines if I'm bored. 😛

It's not that I was really ;into' it, but that it was the only DVD movie we owned for about 3 or 4 months over a summer, so I watched it quite a bit. I've only seen the sequels a couple times each... the 2nd one I didn't even see in the theatre. They were lackluster in comparison, in my opinion. 🙂

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: remagavon
The 1st installment of the matrix is by far my most watched movie. I know almost every single line of the movie and piss of people by saying the upcoming lines if I'm bored. 😛

The first movie I took my wife to (gf at the time) was The Matrix. I had absolutely no expectations, no idea what the movie was about. I remember seeing one preview where Morpheus is saying "Its not something that can be explained, only shown" or something like that, and I knew it was scifi related.

It was such an awesome movie. Even my wife was impressed.

The biggest mistakes they made in the sequels were:

- They didn't stay true to the bullet time filming. They used cheap computer altered slowdowns which were often placed in random spots.

- They went with a musical score, rather than a hardcore soundtrack like they did in the first.

- They put ALL of the in-the-matrix action in the first sequel, then ALL of the defend-zion action in the second. It just made the second less appealing to watch.

- I know the original actor for the Oracle died, but they replaced her with a very unconvincing actor and didn't do a good job of adjusting the script. Its like, uh ok, merovingian killed the last one out of the blue, uh ok, moving on...

- Neo hardly talked throughout the entire two movies. He talked more in the original then he talked in all of the 5+ hours of the next two.

- We sort of understand how he stopped the sentinels at the end of Reloaded, but they don't even try to explain how his mind ended back in the train station.

- The end of Revolutions with the rainbow scene was 100% cheesy. Horrible.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: Amused
That whole scene went right over your head, didn't it?

Leave, troll. I asked a question, got an answer. Excuse me for not knowing anything about glass.

The meaning of the scene had nothing to do with glass. It was obvious that the revelation of Neo being the one was based on how he saved Morpheus and Trinity, not in how the helicopter crashed. The fact is, it DID go over your head. And since the question was already answered, I merely added my comment. Sorry if it offends you, but the truth hurts, doesn't it?

Troll? Hardly. I did not post with the intent to inflame.

 

[venk]

Nobody has ever answered this question.


HOW DOES TRINITY SURVIVE GETTING SHOWRED WITH PIECES OF GLASS!?!?!??!

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: Amused
That whole scene went right over your head, didn't it?

Leave, troll. I asked a question, got an answer. Excuse me for not knowing anything about glass.

I wish people would stop calling long established and respected members "trolls". It is really degrading.

Since when does his time on this forums have anything to do with the type of person he is? The same rules should apply to everyone; newbie and old-timer alike.

I find that Amused takes any opportunity to insult the intelligence of a user and I find this to be rather annoying. Personally; I could give a damn what he thinks about me, but when I see him doing it to just about everyone in each of his posts, it gets annoying.

Oh come on! How could ANYONE mistake the meaning of that scene??? It DID go right over your head. Deal with it and move on.

Sorry if you feel stupid, but seriously...

BTW, if you're annoyed, don't read my fscking posts. It sure looks a lot better than whining like a little bitch who asked what had to be the stupidest question of the day on this forum.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: Amused
That whole scene went right over your head, didn't it?

Leave, troll. I asked a question, got an answer. Excuse me for not knowing anything about glass.

The meaning of the scene had nothing to do with glass. It was obvious that the revelation of Neo being the one was based on how he saved Morpheus and Trinity, not in how the helicopter crashed.

I assumed as much as the fact that Neo knew he could save Trinity, but I wasn't sure if it also had something to do with the building. My reasoning for this is that my brother and I were watching it two days ago, and he mentioned the building being manipulated. I thought nothing of it until I watched it not long ago today. I posted my question so I could be sure as to the intent of the scene, I did not know glass could do that so I was in no position to debate his claim.

Originally posted by: Amused
The fact is, it DID go over your head. And since the question was already answered, I merely added my comment. Sorry if it offends you, but the truth hurts, doesn't it?

The truth doesn't hurt. Especially when it's about a movie, I could really care less. I explain my reasoning above, and that's the truth. Whether you believe me or not is irrelevant, for this is the Internet.

Originally posted by: Amused
Troll? Hardly. I did not post with the intent to inflame.

If you don't think so, you must be in a terrible mood today. If this is how you always act, I'd hate to see you on a bad day.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: Amused
That whole scene went right over your head, didn't it?

Leave, troll. I asked a question, got an answer. Excuse me for not knowing anything about glass.

The meaning of the scene had nothing to do with glass. It was obvious that the revelation of Neo being the one was based on how he saved Morpheus and Trinity, not in how the helicopter crashed.

I assumed as much as the fact that Neo knew he could save Trinity, but I wasn't sure if it also had something to do with the building. My reasoning for this is that my brother and I were watching it two days ago, and he mentioned the building being manipulated. I thought nothing of it until I watched it not long ago today. I posted my question so I could be sure as to the intent of the scene, I did not know glass could do that so I was in no position to debate his claim.

Originally posted by: Amused
The fact is, it DID go over your head. And since the question was already answered, I merely added my comment. Sorry if it offends you, but the truth hurts, doesn't it?

The truth doesn't hurt. Especially when it's about a movie, I could really care less. I explain my reasoning above, and that's the truth. Whether you believe me or not is irrelevant, for this is the Internet.

Originally posted by: Amused
Troll? Hardly. I did not post with the intent to inflame.

If you don't think so, you must be in a terrible mood today. If this is how you always act, I'd hate to see you on a bad day.

I'm in a fine mood, thank you. I merely pointed out that the scene OBVIOUSLY went over your head. YOU were the one who decided to whine and start a flame war, not me.

If someone would have said that to me after asking such a numb skulled question I would have replied with, "yep, it sure did." and added a blush emoticon. Because, you see, instead of being mad when my stupidity is pointed out to me, I get embarrassed and learn from it.

 

[imported_LoKe]

So every time someone argues one of your claims, it's whining?

May I remind you that this is a community, and people ask questions all the time. If my question didn't please you to the point of masturbation, I'm sorry, but that's not what I'm here for. If you thought my question was stupid, that's nice, you're entitled to that opinion. But when you act like you're PMS'ing just because I asked a "stupid question" then you've got some issues.

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: remagavon
The 1st installment of the matrix is by far my most watched movie. I know almost every single line of the movie and piss of people by saying the upcoming lines if I'm bored. 😛

The first movie I took my wife to (gf at the time) was The Matrix. I had absolutely no expectations, no idea what the movie was about. I remember seeing one preview where Morpheus is saying "Its not something that can be explained, only shown" or something like that, and I knew it was scifi related.

It was such an awesome movie. Even my wife was impressed.

The biggest mistakes they made in the sequels were:

- They didn't stay true to the bullet time filming. They used cheap computer altered slowdowns which were often placed in random spots.

- They went with a musical score, rather than a hardcore soundtrack like they did in the first.

- They put ALL of the in-the-matrix action in the first sequel, then ALL of the defend-zion action in the second. It just made the second less appealing to watch.

- I know the original actor for the Oracle died, but they replaced her with a very unconvincing actor and didn't do a good job of adjusting the script. Its like, uh ok, merovingian killed the last one out of the blue, uh ok, moving on...

- Neo hardly talked throughout the entire two movies. He talked more in the original then he talked in all of the 5+ hours of the next two.

- We sort of understand how he stopped the sentinels at the end of Reloaded, but they don't even try to explain how his mind ended back in the train station.

- The end of Revolutions with the rainbow scene was 100% cheesy. Horrible.

I basically agree with all of what you said. I really think it would have been a lot better if they had kept on invading the matrix like in the first film, and were eventually destroyed themselves. The ending would have been a lot worse, but it would have spared the somewhat far fetched (even for the series) superhero esque neo incarnation that we got in the second movies. The scene when he's fighting the smith clones with the pole is so obviously computer generated I can't believe they let that through the post production process. Even my girlfriend remarked at how ridiculous it was.

Then of course they have a completely realistic highway chase, complete with a real life section of road rebuilt to perfectly show scale etc... I just don't understand. It's like they only focused on a couple areas and let the rest of the sequels go to complete hell.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: TheChort
anyone else find the "SPOILER" in the title funny?
Spoiling the Matrix for the ATOT community, is like telling the general public that in "little red riding hood" the wolf dies.

damn you.. i still hadn't reached the end of that gripping story... i just got to the part where she see's its the wolf in the dress.
sigh

and btw, for those debating the trolling.. i just thread crapped 😀

i dont know anything about the whole glass thing, and i actually thought it was just special effects. will have to dig up commentary, cool that its real glass.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: TheChort
anyone else find the "SPOILER" in the title funny?
Spoiling the Matrix for the ATOT community, is like telling the general public that in "little red riding hood" the wolf dies.

damn you.. i still hadn't reached the end of that gripping story... i just got to the part where she see's its the wolf in the dress.
sigh

and btw, for those debating the trolling.. i just thread crapped 😀

i dont know anything about the whole glass thing, and i actually thought it was just special effects. will have to dig up commentary, cool that its real glass.

Thread-crap all you want, I got the answer I was looking for. 🙂

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: LoKe
Thread-crap all you want, I got the answer I was looking for. 🙂

:Q
( o )

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: LoKe
So every time someone argues one of your claims, it's whining?

May I remind you that this is a community, and people ask questions all the time. If my question didn't please you to the point of masturbation, I'm sorry, but that's not what I'm here for. If you thought my question was stupid, that's nice, you're entitled to that opinion. But when you act like you're PMS'ing just because I asked a "stupid question" then you've got some issues.

Fact: The scene went over your head.

Fact: I merely pointed out that it went over your head.

Fact: YOU started whining and PMSing over me merely pointing out the fact that the scene went over your head.

Get over it.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: LoKe
So every time someone argues one of your claims, it's whining?

May I remind you that this is a community, and people ask questions all the time. If my question didn't please you to the point of masturbation, I'm sorry, but that's not what I'm here for. If you thought my question was stupid, that's nice, you're entitled to that opinion. But when you act like you're PMS'ing just because I asked a "stupid question" then you've got some issues.

Fact: The scene went over your head.

Fact: I merely pointed out that it went over your head.

Fact: YOU started whining and PMSing over me merely pointing out the fact that the scene went over your head.

Get over it.

1. Not a fact. I was asking a question because of something my brother had said to me. Originally, I understood the scene, but I doubted my assumption when I heard his "theory." I merely came here to inform myself.

2. Again; mistaken.

3. I don't whine. Like I've said numerous times; I could care less what you think. Only reason I'm even spending the time to answer your posts is to show you hos ludicrous your assumption was.

 

[spunkz]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: TheChort
anyone else find the "SPOILER" in the title funny?
Spoiling the Matrix for the ATOT community, is like telling the general public that in "little red riding hood" the wolf dies.

damn you.. i still hadn't reached the end of that gripping story... i just got to the part where she see's its the wolf in the dress.
sigh

and btw, for those debating the trolling.. i just thread crapped 😀

i dont know anything about the whole glass thing, and i actually thought it was just special effects. will have to dig up commentary, cool that its real glass.

i missed the wolf dying part too. thanks a lot!

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: LoKe
So every time someone argues one of your claims, it's whining?

May I remind you that this is a community, and people ask questions all the time. If my question didn't please you to the point of masturbation, I'm sorry, but that's not what I'm here for. If you thought my question was stupid, that's nice, you're entitled to that opinion. But when you act like you're PMS'ing just because I asked a "stupid question" then you've got some issues.

Fact: The scene went over your head.

Fact: I merely pointed out that it went over your head.

Fact: YOU started whining and PMSing over me merely pointing out the fact that the scene went over your head.

Get over it.

1. Not a fact. I was asking a question because of something my brother had said to me. Originally, I understood the scene, but I doubted my assumption when I heard his "theory." I merely came here to inform myself.

2. Again; mistaken.

3. I don't whine. Like I've said numerous times; I could care less what you think. Only reason I'm even spending the time to answer your posts is to show you hos ludicrous your assumption was.

For someone who "could care less" (don't you mean "couldn't care less?") you sure have a lot to say.

BTW, nice cover story for your stupid question. Too bad it doesn't make sense when your orginal post says:

Is it Neo's "ability" that makes the building/windows "ripple" before exploding? Otherwise, I couldn't imagine why that would prove he's the one.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: LoKe
So every time someone argues one of your claims, it's whining?

May I remind you that this is a community, and people ask questions all the time. If my question didn't please you to the point of masturbation, I'm sorry, but that's not what I'm here for. If you thought my question was stupid, that's nice, you're entitled to that opinion. But when you act like you're PMS'ing just because I asked a "stupid question" then you've got some issues.

Fact: The scene went over your head.

Fact: I merely pointed out that it went over your head.

Fact: YOU started whining and PMSing over me merely pointing out the fact that the scene went over your head.

Get over it.

1. Not a fact. I was asking a question because of something my brother had said to me. Originally, I understood the scene, but I doubted my assumption when I heard his "theory." I merely came here to inform myself.

2. Again; mistaken.

3. I don't whine. Like I've said numerous times; I could care less what you think. Only reason I'm even spending the time to answer your posts is to show you hos ludicrous your assumption was.

For someone who "could care less" (don't you mean "couldn't care less?") you sure have a lot to say.

Yes. I meant couldn't care less. I've been screwing that up a lot lately. And like I said in the post you quoted; I'm only doing it to show how stupid your claim is.

Originally posted by: Amused
BTW, nice cover story for your stupid question. Too bad it doesn't make sense when your orginal post says:

Is it Neo's "ability" that makes the building/windows "ripple" before exploding? Otherwise, I couldn't imagine why that would prove he's the one.

I didn't expect someone to come in here and try to assult my assumption so I didn't feel it necessary to tell the weeklong story along with my question. I simplified it as much as I could.

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: LoKe
So every time someone argues one of your claims, it's whining?

May I remind you that this is a community, and people ask questions all the time. If my question didn't please you to the point of masturbation, I'm sorry, but that's not what I'm here for. If you thought my question was stupid, that's nice, you're entitled to that opinion. But when you act like you're PMS'ing just because I asked a "stupid question" then you've got some issues.

Fact: The scene went over your head.

Fact: I merely pointed out that it went over your head.

Fact: YOU started whining and PMSing over me merely pointing out the fact that the scene went over your head.

Get over it.

1. Not a fact. I was asking a question because of something my brother had said to me. Originally, I understood the scene, but I doubted my assumption when I heard his "theory." I merely came here to inform myself.

2. Again; mistaken.

3. I don't whine. Like I've said numerous times; I could care less what you think. Only reason I'm even spending the time to answer your posts is to show you hos ludicrous your assumption was.

For someone who "could care less" (don't you mean "couldn't care less?") you sure have a lot to say.

Yes. I meant couldn't care less. I've been screwing that up a lot lately. And like I said in the post you quoted; I'm only doing it to show how stupid your claim is.

Originally posted by: Amused
BTW, nice cover story for your stupid question. Too bad it doesn't make sense when your orginal post says:

Is it Neo's "ability" that makes the building/windows "ripple" before exploding? Otherwise, I couldn't imagine why that would prove he's the one.

I didn't expect someone to come in here and try to assult my assumption so I didn't feel it necessary to tell the weeklong story along with my question. I simplified it as much as I could.

e-fight!

 

[imported_LoKe]

I concede defeat. You are correct and I thank you for your contribution.

Have a nice day.

 

[Velk]

Originally posted by: remagavon
The type of glass bows like that before it explodes. If you listen to the commentary they actually used real glass for that shot and searched high and low for a type of glass that would ripple like they wanted until they found it. So, presumably, a real building could have been made using that material.

That's sort of misleading, in that the the building in that shot is a real building (It's the KPMG offices in Sydney), and they filmed it while people were in it, working. Obviously they didn't actually crash the helicopter into it, so it would have to have been either a scale model or CG.

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: Velk

Originally posted by: remagavon
The type of glass bows like that before it explodes. If you listen to the commentary they actually used real glass for that shot and searched high and low for a type of glass that would ripple like they wanted until they found it. So, presumably, a real building could have been made using that material.

That's sort of misleading, in that the the building in that shot is a real building (It's the KPMG offices in Sydney), and they filmed it while people were in it, working. Obviously they didn't actually crash the helicopter into it, so it would have to have been either a scale model or CG.

It was a model. It would be pretty cost prohibitive to build a full size building and ram a helicopter into it.

 

[Schfifty Five]

This thread became awesome when Loke got his panties in a bunch from amused post.

 

[Dissipate]

I asked my uncle who is a physicist about that scene. He said that the ripple effect is realistic.

 

[kindest]

i call shens on this whole thing.