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Marshallj

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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis


incorrect, porsche makes the best cars in the world (anything less than a boxter + automatic is not a real porsche)

Automatic? Why?
 

BigSmooth

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Originally posted by: Windogg
I decided to keep both the M5 and X5 4.6is. Put the 20" rims back on and just coundn't part with it.

Windogg
Aw, you wussed out? :p I was looking forward to seeing which one you got rid of and what you traded it in for.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis


incorrect, porsche makes the best cars in the world (anything less than a boxter + automatic is not a real porsche)

Automatic? Why?

getting an automatic porsche = :nono:

they make automatic porsche's, they're called mercedes
 

technogeeky

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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
Originally posted by: technogeeky
I drove one of those recently.
That and a BMW 745Li.

The conclusion?

BMW makes the best cars in the world.


I just noticed that NFS4 has been here 1 year longer and has 34 times as many posts as I do. :)

incorrect, porsche makes the best cars in the world (anything less than a boxter + automatic is not a real porsche)

1. The Boxster is horrible. It is one of the worst cars ever made, and it's a disgrace to Porsche.

2. The M3 doesn't necessarily have an automatic.
 

thomsbrain

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Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: flood
They're the only ones worthy of the title 'the ultimate driving machine.'
I've had my 735i for about a year now, and am looking to get a 97 m3. I tried out some other cars (audi a4 in particular), but they felt lacking in every respect.

So a BMW is worthy to be called "the ultimate driving machine", while a McLaren F1 or Ferrari is not?

Personally, I am not impressed with BMW's. I have driven them, and I have driven better cars.

well, according to car and driver, the M3 is the best handling car in the world, period. that's pretty ultimate.
 

BeauJangles

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BMWs are nice, but I prefer Mercedes. I think the seats in Mercedes are far more comfortable, and I love that classic Mercedes ride :) (plus they look sweet, IMO)
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: technogeeky
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
Originally posted by: technogeeky
I drove one of those recently.
That and a BMW 745Li.

The conclusion?

BMW makes the best cars in the world.


I just noticed that NFS4 has been here 1 year longer and has 34 times as many posts as I do. :)

incorrect, porsche makes the best cars in the world (anything less than a boxter + automatic is not a real porsche)

1. The Boxster is horrible. It is one of the worst cars ever made, and it's a disgrace to Porsche.

2. The M3 doesn't necessarily have an automatic.

you could also say that about the early z3's ;) that's why i specifically did not include it (but hey, they gotta make money somehow right)
 

LS20

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Originally posted by: technogeeky
1. The Boxster is horrible. It is one of the worst cars ever made, and it's a disgrace to Porsche.

2. The M3 doesn't necessarily have an automatic.

smg is an automatic for all intents and purposes... since you were wrong on 2 i decided you were wrong on #1 also. it acts as a bridge to the overpriced 911s to consumers... it was a success for porsche. plus, what real criticism can you make on the boxster besides the fact that it has a cheap interior--which is also on the 911. if anything, the new cayenne is horrible
 

amgkid

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how do you define automatic? SMG has the same 6 speed getrag manual transmission but clutch work is done by a hydraulic system. you CAN have the computer shift for you but it doesn't have a torque convertor like a conventional automatic. would you consider the ferrari F360 an auto also?
 

guapo337

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Originally posted by: amgkid
how do you define automatic? SMG has the same 6 speed getrag manual transmission but clutch work is done by a hydraulic system. you CAN have the computer shift for you but it doesn't have a torque convertor like a conventional automatic. would you consider the ferrari F360 an auto also?

so SMG is truly clutchless manual and not pussified "manual"?
 

wasssup

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Originally posted by: technogeeky
Originally posted by: wasssup
Yeah, BMW is going downhill in terms of looks :(

so once I finally get a decent job, the only way i'd be able to get a decent BMW is if I purchased a used one (eww) :(


How so? The BMW M3 is one of the best looking cars they have produced. And the 745 is also (at least in my opinion).

Don't judge the 745 until you see it in person / have an opportunity to mess around with one.


Quite honestly I have no problems with any BMW out right now - but if you've taken a look at any "spy pics" of the upcoming beamers you'll see what i'm talking about. I hate it when car companies change a "classic" design into a crappy one. Another example (yet again, imho) is the civic -- the '99-'00 civics were beautiful, especially the coupes. Then look at the 2001+ models -- ugh. The newer sedans (which we have, unfortunately) is hideously ugly. The upcoming sentras (which i've only seen pictures of) look uglier than the current model.

Maybe I just have to grow into it; being a huge fan of the 300zx's from the 90's, i didn't care much for the new 350z (plus the fact that it's no longer TT :(), but its starting to grow on me. Of course, it doesn't matter to car companies what I think because I can't afford it..............yet. :D
 

amgkid

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Originally posted by: guapo337
Originally posted by: amgkid
how do you define automatic? SMG has the same 6 speed getrag manual transmission but clutch work is done by a hydraulic system. you CAN have the computer shift for you but it doesn't have a torque convertor like a conventional automatic. would you consider the ferrari F360 an auto also?

so SMG is truly clutchless manual and not pussified "manual"?

yes, it has a clutch but no clutch pedal. i have a diagram that i can upload if i find it. it's not by any means a "steptronic".

here's a pic of mine after a nice wash =)
 

Emos

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One of the parking spots where I work is now graced by the presence of an M5. (drool)
 

toant103

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Originally posted by: Windogg
I decided to keep both the M5 and X5 4.6is. Put the 20" rims back on and just coundn't part with it.

Windogg

what do you do for a living again?