"the lord of the rings: the rings of power" is out on amazon

[brianmanahan]

What spoilers exactly? Sauron dies at the end btw.

 

[Captante]

will probably just avoid this thread if I continue to watch the show.

What I do is avoid the thread until AFTER watching the newest weeks episode due to the spoiler-factor.

 

[zinfamous]

I don't have a Prime video membership. Being the cheapskate that I am, my best bet would be to wait until all of season 1 is released and then join for a month, binge watch the series, and then drop the membership before the month is out, correct?

And don't forget to order all of the sprats you'll ever need, with free! Prime shipping while you still can!

 

[zinfamous]

What I do is avoid the thread until AFTER watching the newest weeks episode due to the spoiler-factor.

But it's the same problem as the GoT thread: the episode doesn't matter because the uber nerds have retained all the information from the books, and will crap it all over the thread before the episodes happen.

I read all that stuff at some point, but have forgotten most of it. I still haven't watched an episode of this series, yet. Thus, I'm not reading this thread. I'm not even posting in it. Seriously.

 

[Captante]

I'm not even posting in it. Seriously.

Ummm.....

And yeah that was what I was talking about when I mentioned accidental "contextual-spoilers".

ANY discussion of the plot beyond silly stuff like "the bad guy dies in the end" is potentially a major spoiler in the right/wrong context.

And before people poo-poo this and say it doesn't matter much I want you to take a honest little emotional excursion back to the FIRST time you read about Gandalf and the Balrog in Moria or the charge of the Rohirrim. (I still get a thrill remembering now.. and yes I'm a huge nerd!)

You really want to potentially take that away from somebody? (not to imply I'm expecting anything on that level from Amazon/Rings of Power)

 

[brianmanahan]

I read all that stuff at some point, but have forgotten most of it. I still haven't watched an episode of this series, yet. Thus, I'm not reading this thread. I'm not even posting in it. Seriously.

my password is *******

 

[IronWing]

^ He ain't even joking. I shall now fill the forum with filthy poetry.

 

[linkgoron]

But it's the same problem as the GoT thread: the episode doesn't matter because the uber nerds have retained all the information from the books, and will crap it all over the thread before the episodes happen.

I read all that stuff at some point, but have forgotten most of it. I still haven't watched an episode of this series, yet. Thus, I'm not reading this thread. I'm not even posting in it. Seriously.

There's barely any information besides barebones information, and most of it is probably not true for the show. Galadriel is basically completely new, as is "the stranger", the Harfoots,

Spoiler

Adar

as well as other things (Elrond was not a friend of the dwarves in the books IIRC, Celebrimbor was). Note that Amazon doesn't actually have the rights to The Silmilarion, and only to the appendices of LOTR - so there's a ton of stuff that they have to make up instead of use.

Most of the spoilers are from the movies, and if you haven't seen 20+ year old movies, that's your problem.

 

[Captante]

Sounds just like my buddy the big time "accidental" spoiler-guy making excuses for thoughtlessly giving stuff away sorry.

Smart move apparently is like Zin said just bail out on the thread completely until after watching the entire season. (especially if unfamiliar with Tolkien's work)

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Sounds just like my buddy the big time "accidental" spoiler-guy making excuses for thoughtlessly giving stuff away sorry.

Smart move apparently is like Zin said just bail out on the thread completely until after watching the entire season. (especially if unfamiliar with Tolkien's work)

Based on that logic, should probably abandon all such threads until the entire show run is done. Then continue to avoid until all probability of follow-on shows are cleared.

Tolkien's works are vast, detailed, and cover literal millennia. Even someone with a very high level awareness of his works is going to know large amounts of information that will be considered spoilery if one insists on not reading anything that wasn't described in three movies that mostly stuck to three of his books.

 

[Captante]

Based on that logic, should probably abandon all such threads until the entire show run is done.

Agreed. (I 99% avoid "previews" too)

For Tolkien as a whole I'm not concerned about spoilers for the other stories here personally only for specific episodes week to week of Rings of Power since as mentioned this show is only loosely based on anything he wrote. (I've read pretty much all Tolkien that's published)

The exception would be if everyone cared about posting potential "spoilers" with the proper tags (which takes like 2 seconds) but many can't be bothered.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

It wasn't stated anywhere but I believe in Episode 1 the map showed their location the first time they were featured in the story.

Btw, I decided to look it up, and 'not quite'.

Spoiler: Stuff

 

[sactoking]

Btw, I decided to look it up, and 'not quite'.

Spoiler: Stuff

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Yeah I went back and I was way off.

 

[WelshBloke]

It's OK.
All the Dwarfs are Scottish, all the Elves are Welsh, all the hobbits are Irish, all the humans are from Yorkshire. Which I guess is the point in history we get to complain about being type cast! 😄
I've seen the first two episodes and it's pretty good.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I was going to watch it then I heard there aren’t enough white people in it so I passed….
See how stupid that sounds, I can’t believe how dumb some people are.

Being more serious, I love fantasy and I have decades of various interests in fantasy gaming being pen and paper or video games. I do have to admit I’ve never liked lord of the rings movies or books. Not sure why but I’ve found them boring and typically fall asleep during them.
How true to the source is this show?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I was going to watch it then I heard there aren’t enough white people in it so I passed….
See how stupid that sounds, I can’t believe how dumb some people are.

Being more serious, I love fantasy and I have decades of various interests in fantasy gaming being pen and paper or video games. I do have to admit I’ve never liked lord of the rings movies or books. Not sure why but I’ve found them boring and typically fall asleep during them.
How true to the source is this show?

It's paced very similarly so far to the LOTR movies, at least Fellowship, so if you found that boring you might find this boring too. As far as source, there isn't a solid footing for this story within the Tolkein works. It's mostly an interpretation/extrapolation of elements of his works, using some stories from various sources as anchors then filling in the blanks with competent writing.

It's good though, closest thing to LOTR since LOTR.

 

[WelshBloke]

I still don't understand the western Kingdoms of the Elves.
They aren't a spiritual thing, you can sail there and back. But they are seen as an end if you go east to west.

Middle earth might be in the shit but there's always been a nation on Elves that have had thousands of years of combat training just to the west that can't get involved.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I still don't understand the western Kingdoms of the Elves.
They aren't a spiritual thing, you can sail there and back. But they are seen as an end if you go east to west.

Middle earth might be in the shit but there's always been a nation on Elves that have had thousands of years of combat training just to the west that can't get involved.

It was always a spiritual thing. Represented as a physical procession to an island, but it was always essentially their 'afterlife'. Pretty sure it was established that it was a one-way trip, and upon arrival you were essentially in 'heaven'.

 

[WelshBloke]

It was always a spiritual thing. Represented as a physical procession to an island, but it was always essentially their 'afterlife'. Pretty sure it was established that it was a one-way trip, and upon arrival you were essentially in 'heaven'.

That's kinda what I thought. But then you had the elven fleet sailing east at the beginning.

 

[IronWing]

That's kinda what I thought. But then you had the elven fleet sailing east at the beginning.

I’m afraid you’re going to have to read the Silmarillion cover to cover to understand the answer.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

It's paced very similarly so far to the LOTR movies, at least Fellowship, so if you found that boring you might find this boring too. As far as source, there isn't a solid footing for this story within the Tolkein works. It's mostly an interpretation/extrapolation of elements of his works, using some stories from various sources as anchors then filling in the blanks with competent writing.

It's good though, closest thing to LOTR since LOTR.

I think it was more about the Characters, always hated the hair foot hobbits and the aloof elves. I totally realize that is Tolkien.

 

[WelshBloke]

I’m afraid you’re going to have to read the Silmarillion cover to cover to understand the answer.

Don't make me read the Silmarillian! There's way too many names in it.

 

[sdifox]

Don't make me read the Silmarillian! There's way too many names in it.

I have the book. It's like the only book I ever bought that got only one reading.

 

[IronWing]

It was always a spiritual thing. Represented as a physical procession to an island, but it was always essentially their 'afterlife'. Pretty sure it was established that it was a one-way trip, and upon arrival you were essentially in 'heaven'.

The elfin “afterlife” is the Halls of Mandos.

 

[sactoking]

I still don't understand the western Kingdoms of the Elves.
They aren't a spiritual thing, you can sail there and back. But they are seen as an end if you go east to west.

Middle earth might be in the shit but there's always been a nation on Elves that have had thousands of years of combat training just to the west that can't get involved.

In a nutshell the Elven lands of Valinor used to be a physical part of the world. When Morgoth was defeated at the end of the First Age the world was changed: Beleriand sank into the sea and Valinor was separated from the rest of the world. It essentially went from a two-way street to a one way-street.