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Jhhnn

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Trump's had a chance to prove them wrong. What's he proven is that he's a republican by using their playbook. So anytime he wants to prove them wrong, the left is waiting.

This faux victimhood is plain ole sad. When Obama was elected in '08, conservatives lost their minds. That's how you end up voting for someone like Trump through the primary and all the way to the highest office in the country. But hey, he's following the Con playbook, so it's all good.

They've been losing their minds for a long time but a black President really pushed 'em over the edge. Blew their minds, & not in a good way. Obama being pretty good at it just deepened the cognitive dissonance. It shows just how disconnected they are from the rest of us in their bunker o' denial.
 

ch33zw1z

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Just wow....

Since you claim to be open-minded, I assume you're capable of thinking logically. Figure it out using logic.
Explain it. If you can't, then that's on you.

Read the article YOU provided. What I see is women adhering to the dress code in a foreign country run by strict conservatives. You know, so they don't anger them, because the conservatives are prone to irrational responses involving violence for offenses.

From the article:

"By law, women are required to cover their hair and wear loose-fitting clothes when they appear in public in Iran, a country governed by a conservative Islamic elite. Many choose to wear loose-fitting hijabs, like the one worn by Linde in the picture above."

And just for fun, more from the article:

"Other Swedish politicians were more critical. Jan Björklund, leader of the opposition Liberals party, told Aftonbladet newspaper that the headscarf is “a symbol of oppression for women in Iran” and that the Swedish government should have demanded that Linde and other female members of the delegation be exempted from wearing it."

So now, again, you're all over the place and attacking feminists from Sweden, same as those evil liberals from Sweden did.

I mean, c'mon....
 
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tamz_msc

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Explain it. If you can't, then that's on you.

Read the article YOU provided. What I see is women adhering to the dress code in a foreign country run by strict conservatives. You know, so they don't anger them, because the conservatives are prone to irrational responses involving violence for offenses.

From the article:
"By law, women are required to cover their hair and wear loose-fitting clothes when they appear in public in Iran, a country governed by a conservative Islamic elite. Many choose to wear loose-fitting hijabs, like the one worn by Linde in the picture above."
What does a Swedish delegate who's a minister have to fear about breaking Iran's rules about dress code by not wearing the hijab? Theresa May didn't, Michelle Obama didn't when they visited Saudi Arabia. Women empowerment in their case. Swedes wear it, despite actually calling themselves a feminist government, and now it's only about being respectful of traditions. It is painfully obvious why they're doing it - given that they're funding Iran's opponents in the war, it is a token gesture aimed at earning their approval since Sweden knows that its complicit in the war. Feminism be damned, it's now about respecting the others' culture.

That's a South Park episode right there in the making.
 

ch33zw1z

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What does a Swedish delegate who's a minister have to fear about breaking Iran's rules about dress code by not wearing the hijab? Theresa May didn't, Michelle Obama didn't when they visited Saudi Arabia. Women empowerment in their case. Swedes wear it, despite actually calling themselves a feminist government, and now it's only about being respectful of traditions. It is painfully obvious why they're doing it - given that they're funding Iran's opponents in the war, it is a token gesture aimed at earning their approval since Sweden knows that its complicit in the war. Feminism be damned, it's now about respecting the others' culture.

That's a South Park episode right there in the making.
So what's your actual complaint, feminists with political savvy?

Personally, I dont like that they did it. I'm not a Swede, so fuck my feels about it.

Again, you're all over the place. You wanna continue this mess of a conversation? Go back to the OP.
 
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Jhhnn

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Wow... Who knew that American Conservatives' problem is Swedish feminist ministers wearing head scarves in Iran?

Like American conservatives actually give a flying rat's ass about that.

Epic whataboutism...
 

ch33zw1z

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Wow... Who knew that American Conservatives' problem is Swedish feminist ministers wearing head scarves in Iran?

Like American conservatives actually give a flying rat's ass about that.

Epic whataboutism...
I'm not sure he's american, but yea....it's kinda hard to keep up with all of tmanz outrages.
 
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tamz_msc

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So what's your actual complaint, feminists with political savvy?
No, the hypocrisy of the left, and that you deliberately choose to ignore it. First by insinuating that it is neo-nazism to celebrate a national day with national flags, and then there's no image problem with left governments profiteering off of war in an underhand way and then resorting to tokenism by pretending to be respectful of the culture of the very country against whom the arms they've sold are used.

If someone even utters the word 'nationalist' near you, you'd quickly run for the nearest nuclear fallout shelter. My country made the largest non-violent nationalist independence movement in history possible, and if by calling myself a nationalist I become a neo-nazi according to your interpretation of the word, then I'm proud to call myself a nationalist and being labelled as such by the likes of the leftist boot-licking cvcks like you.
 

tamz_msc

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Wow... Who knew that American Conservatives' problem is Swedish feminist ministers wearing head scarves in Iran?

Like American conservatives actually give a flying rat's ass about that.

Epic whataboutism...
Blind delusion and wilful ignorance of the failings of the left by their own ideologues. That's what any sane-headed person would call a problem, whether conservative or liberal. Though liberals might find it hard to believe at first.
 

tamz_msc

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I'm not sure he's american, but yea....it's kinda hard to keep up with all of tmanz outrages.
Of course you don't know my nationality. Must find it difficult to keep up when you give such little thought to whatever arguments you try to construct.
 
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You missed "my country".

But let's consider for the sake of argument that they are statues of confederate leaders.

There is a difference between campaigning for their removal through increasing awareness among the people about the figures depicted by the statues and outright pulling them down in full public view.
No, I did not miss that, I've seen others refer to the US like that while being citizens.
 
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ch33zw1z

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No, the hypocrisy of the left, and that you deliberately choose to ignore it. First by insinuating that it is neo-nazism to celebrate a national day with national flags, and then there's no image problem with left governments profiteering off of war in an underhand way and then resorting to tokenism by pretending to be respectful of the culture of the very country against whom the arms they've sold are used.

If someone even utters the word 'nationalist' near you, you'd quickly run for the nearest nuclear fallout shelter. My country made the largest non-violent nationalist independence movement in history possible, and if by calling myself a nationalist I become a neo-nazi according to your interpretation of the word, then I'm proud to call myself a nationalist and being labelled as such by the likes of the leftist boot-licking cvcks like you.

Well, first I've never insinuated anything of the sort. Again, I just read multiple sources that report on the Polish national day celebration.

Here's one:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...march-warsaw-far-right-fascists-a8050181.html

And by your response, I'm assuming youre polish.

So, to sum it up, you have a problem with feminists having their hand at politics, people profiteering off war, and liberal media in general.

Oh yeah, and people spreading their manifestos at Google. Let me know when you edit the wiki page for that one, I'd love to read the updated version.

On the topic of profiteering from war, I'm american, so I got nothing to say when other countries choose to try and get some of that action. We've been doing it for a long time.

And with the name calling, so you can go read your own post about name calling. Guess we're done here.
 

tamz_msc

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Well, first I've never insinuated anything of the sort. Again, I just read multiple sources that report on the Polish national day celebration.

Here's one:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...march-warsaw-far-right-fascists-a8050181.html

And by your response, I'm assuming youre polish.

So, to sum it up, you have a problem with feminists having their hand at politics, people profiteering off war, and liberal media in general.

Oh yeah, and people spreading their manifestos at Google. Let me know when you edit the wiki page for that one, I'd love to read the updated version.

On the topic of profiteering from war, I'm american, so I got nothing to say when other countries choose to try and get some of that action. We've been doing it for a long time.
You've single-handedly lowered my opinion of the average liberal(if you call yourself as such) American down a couple of notches with what you've just written.

A country celebrating its national day, people marching on the streets with their national flags marking a joyous occasion - all of them must be Nazis.

Amazing.
 

ch33zw1z

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You've single-handedly lowered my opinion of the average liberal(if you call yourself as such) American down a couple of notches with what you've just written.

A country celebrating its national day, people marching on the streets with their national flags marking a joyous occasion - all of them must be Nazis.

Amazing.

You're so beta, sad. Feel free to post links. You finally did above and it's obvious you don't even read them, maybe read the next ones first.

I'm sure your opinion of american liberals was very high to begin with. You just seem so reasonable.
 

Jhhnn

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Blind delusion and wilful ignorance of the failings of the left by their own ideologues. That's what any sane-headed person would call a problem, whether conservative or liberal. Though liberals might find it hard to believe at first.
Beat the shit out of that straw man. You don't get to define what "the Left" believes.

Oh, and if you think American conservatives all hot to build the Wall care about that in the slightest you're out of your mind. It's contrived outrage on your part.
 

tamz_msc

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You're so beta, sad. Feel free to post links. You finally did above and it's obvious you don't even read them, maybe read the next ones first.

I'm sure your opinion of american liberals was very high to begin with. You just seem so reasonable.
Do you realize that you just basically linked what can only be termed as 'fake news'? Should I post pictures of Americans marching with flags on the 4th of July and call them neo-nazis?
 

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Lifer
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Do you realize that you just basically linked what can only be termed as 'fake news'? Should I post pictures of Americans marching with flags on the 4th of July and call them neo-nazis?
Ah, fake news. Then post your own. It's not hard to figure how this internetting thing works. You did it once already, granted you didn't read the links but I'll offer a mulligan
 

tamz_msc

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Beat the shit out of that straw man. You don't get to define what "the Left" believes.

Oh, and if you think American conservatives all hot to build the Wall care about that in the slightest you're out of your mind. It's contrived outrage on your part.
Get some education in history. It's easy to figure out what the left believes, and extreme left-wingers are plain simple to identify when it comes to their ideology.
 

tamz_msc

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TIL that if you're white and a citizen of one of the most persecuted countries in modern history, then celebrating your Independence Day means that you're a fascist, according to some commenters here who call themselves adherents of the liberal/leftist viewpoint.
 

IronWing

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TIL that if you're white and a citizen of one of the most persecuted countries in modern history, then celebrating your Independence Day means that you're a fascist, according to some commenters here who call themselves adherents of the liberal/leftist viewpoint.
^ drivel
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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TIL that if you're white and a citizen of one of the most persecuted countries in modern history, then celebrating your Independence Day means that you're a fascist, according to some commenters here who call themselves adherents of the liberal/leftist viewpoint.
Today you learned to read links before posting them. Hence why you still havent posted more. :Beers; here's to your plethora of outrages.
 

Jhhnn

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Get some education in history. It's easy to figure out what the left believes, and extreme left-wingers are plain simple to identify when it comes to their ideology.

This whole exchange reminds me of one of those old WW2 submarine movies- when they spot an enemy destroyer the klaxon sounds & the captain screams "Dive! dive! dive!" into the intercom.

You're just screaming "Duh-vert! duh-vert! duh-vert!" instead, working up contrived outrage over something nobody really cares about or even noticed, certainly not American conservatives.

American conservatives' problems stem from the fact that America isn't really White any more and is becoming less so every day. It scares them, and our conservative politicians are right there to push the narrative of fear because it gets them votes & keeps people nicely irrational at the same time.
 

tamz_msc

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This whole exchange reminds me of one of those old WW2 submarine movies- when they spot an enemy destroyer the klaxon sounds & the captain screams "Dive! dive! dive!" into the intercom.

You're just screaming "Duh-vert! duh-vert! duh-vert!" instead, working up contrived outrage over something nobody really cares about or even noticed, certainly not American conservatives.

American conservatives' problems stem from the fact that America isn't really White any more and is becoming less so every day. It scares them, and our conservative politicians are right there to push the narrative of fear because it gets them votes & keeps people nicely irrational at the same time.
The examples I provided don't directly talk about American politics per se, but they are all symptomatic of the larger collectivist delusion that the left is suffering from ever since the election of Trump into office. You've all buried your heads in the sand so deep that you've allowed the far-left ideologues to take control of your institutions, the prime example being the mainstream media(which generously spouts gutter sludge in the name of 'news', an example of which I just talked about) and missed the memo that your average American has completely lost trust in those institutions and the left in general and as a result you've ended up with Trump. Now instead of acknowledging that fact, you still deny that somebody has pulled the rug from under the feet of the leftist world-view that you're so eager to defend in spite of all its recent shortcomings in dealing with the most pressing issues at hand, and you ain't getting that rug back any time soon.