The List of Blame for all Conservatives' problems

[Victorian Gray]

A much simpler list:

Everything

 

[brycejones]

A much simpler list:

Everything not white, rich, and conservative

FTFY

 

[HomerJS]

George Soros

I'm liking this list.

 

[Jhhnn]

George Soros

I'm liking this list.

Now you've done it. If the mention of Hillary didn't set them howling at the moon then that will probably git 'er dun.

 

[dawp]

fdr
the new deal
jfk
lbj
Civil right act

 

[Jhhnn]

fdr
the new deal
jfk
lbj
Civil right act

OMFG! Franklin Delano Roosevelt, traitor to his class!

 

[Fenixgoon]

greater economic equality?
the poors?
something something protect jerb creators?

 

[UNCjigga]

Where is Antifa/Black Bloc/Anarchists??? He'll the NRA had a whole ad devoted to them!

Also single out Jeff Bezos and George Soros for extra scorn going above/beyond tech CEOs and Jews/Liberals respectively.

 

[Atreus21]

Toughen up? That's what you'd say, right?

Of course. Not like I take it personally.

Just seems childish that's all; a "Goddammit I hate conservatives" thread. As if things aren't nasty enough in the threads that deal with actual news or events.

 

[tamz_msc]

Bold statement.

It's a fact, not a claim.

 

[ivwshane]

Of course. Not like I take it personally.

Just seems childish that's all; a "Goddammit I hate conservatives" thread. As if things aren't nasty enough in the threads that deal with actual news or events.

I'm not seeing any conservative hate here. Hell, are there even any conservatives left?

If you need a safe space I'm sure we can create a similar thread for "liberals". In fact I bet you'd get the same people offering up ideas, it would certainly get more participation from those that would be made fun of than are of participating here.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I am a fiscal conservative, incapable of making poor decisions, and I blame the following for my sh!tty life. Some mornings, I don’t know how I find the strength to face the day, my life is so sh!tty.

I blame:
- people with gluten allergies
- SNL
- hippies
- Occupy Wall Street
- Wall Street
- shady mortgage companies
- shareholders
- limousine liberals and NIMBYists
- smug white collar hypocrites
- waterboys
- baristas
- Vegans
- Facebook
- China
- unethical video game journalists
- @Victorian Gray
- fusion cuisine chefs
- Tarek and Christina
- the Real Housewives of anywhere
- the corporate C-suite
- bearded hipsters
- Tumblr snowflakes
- Whole Foods employees
- pumpkin spice enthusiasts
- anyone who undermines tradespeople by paying under the table to undocumented laborers

 

[Greenman]

So what does it mean to be a conservative in the USA?

Most of the conservatives I know tend to be quiet and reasoned people, that actually describes a lot of the liberals I know as well. The problems for both sides start when they clump into mutual masturbation groups. Things rapidly spin out of control and you end up with things like this very thread, ineffectual people crowing about how superior they are, and how stupid, uninformed, lazy, untrustworthy, and generally inferior the other guys are.

 

[tamz_msc]

Most of the conservatives I know tend to be quiet and reasoned people, that actually describes a lot of the liberals I know as well. The problems for both sides start when they clump into mutual masturbation groups. Things rapidly spin out of control and you end up with things like this very thread, ineffectual people crowing about how superior they are, and how stupid, uninformed, lazy, untrustworthy, and generally inferior the other guys are.

This is essentially my take on the situation, and I asked the question with this presumption in mind.

But the thing is, it seems to me as an outsider that the public discourse in the US is increasingly being fueled by this steadfast attempt by those on the far sides of the spectrum to caricature any differing viewpoint on either side the liberal/conservative debate, and a disproportionate representation of one group's caricaturized viewpoint over the other through mainstream media, aimed not at moving the discourse forward but to ridicule.

 

[HomerJS]

I am a fiscal conservative, incapable of making poor decisions, and I blame the following for my sh!tty life. Some mornings, I don’t know how I find the strength to face the day, my life is so sh!tty.

I blame:
- people with gluten allergies
- SNL
- hippies
- Occupy Wall Street
- Wall Street
- shady mortgage companies
- shareholders
- limousine liberals and NIMBYists
- smug white collar hypocrites
- waterboys
- baristas
- Vegans
- Facebook
- China
- unethical video game journalists
- @Victorian Gray
- fusion cuisine chefs
- Tarek and Christina
- the Real Housewives of anywhere
- the corporate C-suite
- bearded hipsters
- Tumblr snowflakes
- Whole Foods employees
- pumpkin spice enthusiasts
- anyone who undermines tradespeople by paying under the table to undocumented laborers

You can take Facebook off your list. I have a thread showing they are willing for people to die in order to maintain their growth

 

[jackstar7]

It's a fact, not a claim.

Also meaningless.

But I guess you don't see it.

 

[Commodus]

Most of the conservatives I know tend to be quiet and reasoned people, that actually describes a lot of the liberals I know as well. The problems for both sides start when they clump into mutual masturbation groups. Things rapidly spin out of control and you end up with things like this very thread, ineffectual people crowing about how superior they are, and how stupid, uninformed, lazy, untrustworthy, and generally inferior the other guys are.

There's certainly a degree of truth to this -- many people exist somewhere in the middle. People forget that conservatism used to be defined by people like David Frum and William F. Buckley, who, right or wrong, came to their views through calm, carefully considered approaches.

At the same time, look at what many of our diehard conservative forum posters believe. If you ask them, Antifa and BLM are existential threats to society; all Muslims are ticking time bombs just waiting to impose Sharia law and shoot non-believers; and of course, conservatives obsess over Hillary Clinton as if she'd won the 2016 election (to distract from the corruption and incompetence of Trump). A significant chunk of the modern American conservative discourse is caught up in fixations that have little correspondence to reality, and you can't really say that there are comparable fixations on the left (not that they don't exist, just that the size and scope aren't in the same league).

 

[ivwshane]

There's certainly a degree of truth to this -- many people exist somewhere in the middle. People forget that conservatism used to be defined by people like David Frum and William F. Buckley, who, right or wrong, came to their views through calm, carefully considered approaches.

At the same time, look at what many of our diehard conservative forum posters believe. If you ask them, Antifa and BLM are existential threats to society; all Muslims are ticking time bombs just waiting to impose Sharia law and shoot non-believers; and of course, conservatives obsess over Hillary Clinton as if she'd won the 2016 election (to distract from the corruption and incompetence of Trump). A significant chunk of the modern American conservative discourse is caught up in fixations that have little correspondence to reality, and you can't really say that there are comparable fixations on the left (not that they don't exist, just that the size and scope aren't in the same league).

Just to be more precise, these people are not conservatives. Frum and the others you mentioned are. Trump supporters are right wingers, their ideology changes depending on what their authoritarian leaders are telling them at the moment. They don't do facts unless they agree with their feelings.

I make this distinction because conservatives are sorely missing right now and those that exist have not been hesitant to call out trump and that should be encouraged.

 

[tamz_msc]

Also meaningless.

But I guess you don't see it.

Facts are facts. For example the student political activism(I'm not talking about recent developments wrt the shootings) in recent years has mostly been left-leaning. Demonstrations and walkouts at venues of invited speakers who don't adhere to leftist ideology are carried out by those individuals who hold extreme views among the left. Desecrating campus property, defacing walls with graffiti, disrupting the administration from effectively discharging their duties(common occurrence in my country, though the administration in the US unis have practically given in to submission) are all examples of leftist culture.

 

[jackstar7]

Facts are facts. For example the student political activism(I'm not talking about recent developments wrt the shootings) in recent years has mostly been left-leaning. Demonstrations and walkouts at venues of invited speakers who don't adhere to leftist ideology are carried out by those individuals who hold extreme views among the left. Desecrating campus property, defacing walls with graffiti, disrupting the administration from effectively discharging their duties(common occurrence in my country, though the administration in the US unis have practically given in to submission) are all examples of leftist culture.

Lemme know when you get to citing some facts.

Also, you might want to check your original statement and work out why it was meaningless.

 

[Sunburn74]

Don't forget to add moderate republicans to the list. In Texas the governor Greg Abbott spent quite a bit of his own money to push out alleged moderate republicans because they only voted with the party line like 97% of the time and not 100%.

 

[Starbuck1975]

You can take Facebook off your list. I have a thread showing they are willing for people to die in order to maintain their growth

That internal email is the very reason they are on my list

 

[pete6032]

Nancy Pelosi.

Before the 2010 midterms, the National Republican Congressional Committee cited Pelosi in an astonishing 70 percent of its ads—far more than the percentage that cited Obama.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/04/the-nancy-pelosi-problem/554048/

 

[Victorian Gray]

I am a fiscal conservative, incapable of making poor decisions, and I blame the following for my sh!tty life. Some mornings, I don’t know how I find the strength to face the day, my life is so sh!tty.

I blame:
- people with gluten allergies
- SNL
- hippies
- Occupy Wall Street
- Wall Street
- shady mortgage companies
- shareholders
- limousine liberals and NIMBYists
- smug white collar hypocrites
- waterboys
- baristas
- Vegans
- Facebook
- China
- unethical video game journalists
- @Victorian Gray
- fusion cuisine chefs
- Tarek and Christina
- the Real Housewives of anywhere
- the corporate C-suite
- bearded hipsters
- Tumblr snowflakes
- Whole Foods employees
- pumpkin spice enthusiasts
- anyone who undermines tradespeople by paying under the table to undocumented laborers

hugs

 

[Greenman]

This is essentially my take on the situation, and I asked the question with this presumption in mind.

But the thing is, it seems to me as an outsider that the public discourse in the US is increasingly being fueled by this steadfast attempt by those on the far sides of the spectrum to caricature any differing viewpoint on either side the liberal/conservative debate, and a disproportionate representation of one group's caricaturized viewpoint over the other through mainstream media, aimed not at moving the discourse forward but to ridicule.

That's about right. The problem right now is that most people on the far left can't get over the fact that Trump won the election, he's the president of the united states, and most likely will be for the next four years. This is also why we hear the never ending cry of RUSSIANS, and the vitriolic hate coming from the far left. On top of that, the DNC hasn't been doing all that well. At the time of Trumps victory, congress and the majority of the states were under republican control. Rather than evaluating their platform and message, the DNC handed us Hillary, possibly the only person in the country Trump could beat. The far left is pissed off, and their response is insults and name calling. Anger that all those stupid people won't vote the way their betters want them to.

When it comes right down to it, I think Trump will end up being the best thing to ever happen to the DNC. The man can't speak without saying something stupid, it seems likely that he was involved in what at the least is very questionable activity, and I don't think he's all that concerned about getting caught.
At worst, the dems take control of the white house in 3 years, and probably congress as well.

Just my opinion. I could be 100% wrong on every point.