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The lies of George W. Bush
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AznAnarchy99
Lifer
Politicians dont lie, they just hide everything and if they are good, it wont come up in the future. Name one president that hasnt lied please.
jackschmittusa
Diamond Member
Never heard Ford called for lying.
BaliBabyDoc
Lifer
Only the sycophants still think of him as "honest" or a man of "integrity."
The Wall Street Journal was calling Bush's flip flop on intelligence . . . a more "open" administration. Let us trace the evolution of President George W. Bush:
1) We KNOW that Saddam has WMD. We have intelligence. British intelligence.
2) There's nothing wrong with our intelligence on the aluminum tubes. There's no doubt what they are for.
3) Those are definitely mobile weapons labs. No doubt about it.
4) Saddam can lauch a volley of chemical weapons in 45 minutes.
5) I'm sure we will find the WMD. We know it's there, we have the intelligence. The intelligence is good.
6) It's a big country . . . the size of Texas.
7) It's a big country . . . the size of California.
8) It's a big country . . . we know . . . we have the intelligence that shows it's a big country.
9) We're still looking for weapons of mass destruction programs. We know they exist. We have good intelligence.
10) We are looking for weapons of mass destruction program associated activities. We know they exist. We have . . . um intelligence.
11) Anyone with information on Saddam's weapons programs should call 1-800-wher-itat.
12) What WMD? We're here to liberate the Iraqi people.
13) We had imperfect intelligence. But we didn't misuse it.
14) We had bad intelligence, so it must be the fault of the intelligence agencies. I guess we need to give out some awards.
15) We had bad intelligence. Let's reform Social Security.
16) We had bad intelligence. My bad but it's still Saddam's fault for not revealing the mediocre extent of his largely nonexistent weapons program.
The Wall Street Journal was calling Bush's flip flop on intelligence . . . a more "open" administration. Let us trace the evolution of President George W. Bush:
1) We KNOW that Saddam has WMD. We have intelligence. British intelligence.
2) There's nothing wrong with our intelligence on the aluminum tubes. There's no doubt what they are for.
3) Those are definitely mobile weapons labs. No doubt about it.
4) Saddam can lauch a volley of chemical weapons in 45 minutes.
5) I'm sure we will find the WMD. We know it's there, we have the intelligence. The intelligence is good.
6) It's a big country . . . the size of Texas.
7) It's a big country . . . the size of California.
8) It's a big country . . . we know . . . we have the intelligence that shows it's a big country.
9) We're still looking for weapons of mass destruction programs. We know they exist. We have good intelligence.
10) We are looking for weapons of mass destruction program associated activities. We know they exist. We have . . . um intelligence.
11) Anyone with information on Saddam's weapons programs should call 1-800-wher-itat.
12) What WMD? We're here to liberate the Iraqi people.
13) We had imperfect intelligence. But we didn't misuse it.
14) We had bad intelligence, so it must be the fault of the intelligence agencies. I guess we need to give out some awards.
15) We had bad intelligence. Let's reform Social Security.
16) We had bad intelligence. My bad but it's still Saddam's fault for not revealing the mediocre extent of his largely nonexistent weapons program.
Hurricane Andrew
Golden Member
Do you guys even realize that Bush (or Cheney, for that matter) aren't ever running for office again? Time to pick a new target, or November 4, 2008 will be a long, long night....
Hurricane Andrew
Golden Member
Yeah, helping to free over 25 million people, disrupt a terrorist network, and establish TWO democracies in the Middle East are such terrible offenses 😛
BaliBabyDoc
Lifer
Technically, the people of Iraq aren't really free since they live with the constant threat of terrorism and under occupation by a foreign military. Saddam was definitely bad. There's no guarantee that Iraq's future is better.
It looks like Bush disrupted a terrorist network in Afghanistan and established one in Iraq.
Cuba is closer to a democracy than Afghanistan . . . plus Cuba has better healthcare.😉 Oh, consult an atlas. Afghanistan is part of Central Asia NOT the Middle East.
LOL. Let's see how long democracy lasts when America pulls out. Bush will be remembered as the president who:
invaded Iraq unprovoked
wasted $300 billion+ on said invasion
engaged in nation building despite campaign promises to the contrary
plunged Iraq into civil war (pending)
destroyed worldwide goodwill towards the United States post 9-11
never caught Osama Bin Laden
themusgrat
Golden Member
I am a conservative, though not extreme, and here's what I think. Everyone in Washington had the same intelligence, and most wanted to go to war. Bush got himself in a heap of trouble, and yes, he could be a little smarter. With Kerry as President, we would go, "Mr. UN, could we please have permission to avenge the terrorist attack? No? Well then, we'll just make up and sing coombyyah," or whatever its called. No matter what, lying is wrong, and sadly, we have made it to where you can't really even be mayor of Sardis without it. Get over the election and lets all try to pick a good one next time. We haven't had one of those since Reagan, arguably.
Your belove Propagandist. Or, don't you read the news?
- Pentagon spying on American citizens
- NSA using wiretaps on conversations of American citizens without warrants
- American citizens held in prisons for over three years with no access to legal counsel and no charges filed
GroundedSailor
Platinum Member
You forgot to add the latest one:
We had bad intelligence but if I could it again I would do the same thing.
(Ironically he said that soon after admitting fault for the first time- paying lip service).
As to lying, all politicians lie. The intent and effect can vary. Lying to project a better image or even lying to hide a marital infidelity is one thing. Lying and taking a country to war with resultant loss of lives is a completely different kettle of fish.
imported_Condor
Diamond Member
Naw, but I still have a copy of the Clinton Chronicles. You want a copy?
IronMentality
Senior member
Gonna set up a screen play for a second.
Arab Government 1: Hi, we have Osama Bin Laden. You said you wanted him?
Bill Clinton: Nah, I'm too busy slamming Monica.
Arab Government 2: Hey, you said you have this guy wanted out there. Sure you don't want him?
Bill Clinton: Nah, I'm too busy pardoning complete crooks that donated millions to my library.
Arab Government 3: You sure you don't want this terrorist bastard, Osama Bin Laden?!
Bill Clinton: Nah, I'd rather make up intelligence about Iraq having WMDs and launch missile strikes into the Euphrates river, while slamming Monica.
Arab Government 1: Hi, we have Osama Bin Laden. You said you wanted him?
Bill Clinton: Nah, I'm too busy slamming Monica.
Arab Government 2: Hey, you said you have this guy wanted out there. Sure you don't want him?
Bill Clinton: Nah, I'm too busy pardoning complete crooks that donated millions to my library.
Arab Government 3: You sure you don't want this terrorist bastard, Osama Bin Laden?!
Bill Clinton: Nah, I'd rather make up intelligence about Iraq having WMDs and launch missile strikes into the Euphrates river, while slamming Monica.
Condi Rice: Hey, Mr. President, here's a PDB that's titled: "Bin Laden Determined To Strike in the U.S.". Do you want to take some time to read this and take some action?
Dubya: Well, Condi, you know I don't read so good. Hell, I don't read much at all. And, his family is real close with my Poppy, and anybody who's close to my dad can't be all bad. Anyway, I gotta get back to Crawford, and cut my brush. Now, tell me what do you think of my new golf swing? 😀
Chinadefender
Member
Why not be treated as Clinton? So lucky!
Hmm, I remember Clinton authorizing the assassination of Bin Ladin. Clinton parked two attack submarines off shore for the purpose. He also had the Predator armed with Hellfire missiles for the express purpose of killing OBL. So, Clinton was going after Osama. Rumsfeld parked the Predator even after the Hellfire was certified for use.
Operation Desert Fox was direct and immediate retaliation for Saddam Hussein's expulsion of the UN weapons inspectors. When the inspectors get back into Iraq, they are expelled by GW Bush to make way for the invasion. Having inspectors in Iraq was a serious threat to the plans of the administration. Go figure.
homercles337
Diamond Member
Im not sure why i even bother. This is utter nonsense and flamebait to boot. Do you get ALL of your info from rightwing nutjobs?
imported_Condor
Diamond Member
:beer:
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