The left's playbook on gun control exposed

[spidey07]

No wonder they seem to answer the same, use the same wording trying to change the language. It's not gun control, it's gun violence. Try to frame the debate and appeal to emotions. Some of this stuff is pretty sickening, try to read it all.

Article
http://www.examiner.com/article/workman-reveals-gun-control-playbook

Actual 80 page playbook
http://www.tbe.org/uploadedFiles/si...terials/Gun ViolenceMessaging Guide PDF-1.pdf

A few key gems of hilarity:

Advocates for gun violence prevention win the logical debate, but
lose on more emotional
terms

Alarming facts
open the door to action. And
powerful stories
put feeling and emotional
energy behind those facts.

It’s not just about words.
Powerful and emotionally-engaging images are vitally important
reinforcers of strong messages. For example, intimidating images of military-style weapons
help bring to life the point that we are dealing with a different situation than in earlier
times

 

[DominionSeraph]

Note how they're talking about getting through to conservatards. Because you're too stupid for anything else.

 

[Geosurface]

Nothing scarier in this world than people doing great evil while being completely assured they're doing good.

 

[spidey07]

This is hillarious!

1. Advocates for gun violence prevention win the logical debate, but lose on emotional terms

If that’s true, why on earth would they say this?

ALWAYS FOCUS ON EMOTIONAL AND VALUE-DRIVEN ARGUMENTS ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE

 

[spidey07]

Note how they're talking about getting through to conservatards. Because you're too stupid for anything else.

I suggest you read the whole thing. A lot of it, if not most is devoted to talking to the far left base.

It would be wise to actually be able to talk to the material at hand for once the insults come out I know I have defeated you with logic, fact and blinding white brilliance of truth and justice.

 

[spidey07]

Just getting better and better...NEVER reference duty to retreat. Never say what the law really says. Never, emotion only and make sure to show pictures of the evil guns and dead babies.

SHOOT
FIRST
LAWS
KEY
MESSAGING
PRINCIPLES
These laws raise a frequently-confronted question. Should we “buy into” the language and positioning of
our opponents or seek to define the debate with our own language?
Their proponents call these statutes Stand Your Ground laws. But,
Shoot First
and
Kill at Will
laws are far
more accurate and persuasive. If a phrase such as “Stand Your Ground” laws gains broad usage among
both proponents and the media, we may need to use it as a reference point. But, we should quickly shift to
language that positions our argument more persuasively.
Another phrase that we should avoid whenever possible is “duty to retreat.” It may be an established legal
principle, but in the public square, it sounds weak and hard to defend

 

[UberNeuman]

 

[Via]

All most of us progressives want is

a) keep on working on ways to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them.

b) DO SOMETHING ABOUT ILLEGAL GUNS. Anyone caught with an illegal gun should serve mandatory jail time, and anyone selling or trafficking them should go to jail for life, first offense.

 

[spidey07]

All most of us progressives want is

a) keep on working on ways to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them.

b) DO SOMETHING ABOUT ILLEGAL GUNS. Anyone caught with an illegal gun should serve mandatory jail time, and anyone selling or trafficking them should go to jail for life, first offense.

What is an illegal gun?

Are you aware of the serious federal penalties for modifying, possessing or trafficking of a gun whose receiver serial number has been modified or destroyed? How about fucked up states' laws about "illegal magazines"?

But more importantly, answer the question of what an illegal gun is.

 

[Via]

Any gun you're not legally allowed to possess is an illegal gun in my book.

 

[spidey07]

Any gun you're not legally allowed to possess is an illegal gun in my book.

I see. There are serious federal and state laws on what you want with many mandatory minimums of 10 years in jail (no parole). Not quite the life sentence you want, but pretty damn severe.

 

[Via]

Laws are wonderful, but are they enforced properly?

I imagine this is more common than anyone wants to believe.

http://www.startribune.com/local/200356861.html

 

[dank69]

Rick Perry WILL be your next President.

 

[Patranus]

If an honest citizen with a gun were present, this might not have happened.

Reply with

There's not a shred of credible evidence that more guns and more shooting save people’s lives. More guns and more shooting mean more tragedy.

Yeah. Well. There is also not a shred of credible evidence that less guns prevent shootings and save peoples lives.

 

[Zaap]

Powerful and emotionally-engaging images are vitally important
reinforcers of strong messages. For example, intimidating images of military-style weapons
help bring to life the point that we are dealing with a different situation than in earlier
times

I've always wondered what the supposed 'logic' of this type of thing is? When you show most people pictures of dead babies and "scary" people with 'intimidating military style weapons'- "Must disarm myself!" isn't the most natural reaction, the opposite is.

 

[thraashman]

Nothing scarier in this world than people doing great evil while being completely assured they're doing good.

I agree, there's nothing worse than a conservative since to be one you MUST be evil.

Rick Perry WILL be your next President.

 

[berzerker60]

Oh no, he's caught us! Our nefarious plan is ruined!

*runs for the door, car tires screech away*

 

[TerryMathews]

Laws are wonderful, but are they enforced properly?

I imagine this is more common than anyone wants to believe.

http://www.startribune.com/local/200356861.html

Why is it that when "conservitards" believe that voter fraud is more prevalent than reported we are treated like we are mentally defective yet liberals get to make effectively the same arguments about "illegal guns"?
Dominion I fully expect you to condemn Via like you do conservatives. Otherwise you are a hypocrite.

 

[Anarchist420]

Gun control may or may not make us safer, but there is no way to know.

However, centralization of power is far more dangerous.

 

[BlueWolf47]

If only we had an example where a geographically isolated country had inacted gun control policies and subsequently the rate of gun related homicides fell.

I wait, we do! Australia.

 

[Agent11]

I feel sorry for the Aussies, no 2nd amendment.

That's why they have to hunt crocodiles with knives.

 

[irishScott]

If only we had an example where a geographically isolated country had inacted gun control policies and subsequently the rate of gun related homicides fell.

I wait, we do! Australia.

Funny how it's completely irrelevant. The Aussies never even had 1/10 of the guns we have, and they're an island. Being an island tends to make border control a little easier.

 

[irishScott]

As for the playbook, I don't need to read it.

1. Stay stone-silent until someone gets shot.
2. Capitalize on knee-jerk emotions and blame the gun as opposed to the murderer.
3. Ignore all pertinent situational details.
4. Propose nonsensical and sometimes blatantly illegal "solutions" that reveal our true colors and make us sound like complete idiots.

The reason gun control has failed is the fault of gun control advocates. If they actually cared to learn about that which they wished to regulate, they might get somewhere. Of course, that would require tempering their stance on a number of issues; so in the name of not looking stupid they continue to look stupid. It's quite hilarious really.

 

[irishScott]

All most of us progressives want is

a) keep on working on ways to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them.

b) DO SOMETHING ABOUT ILLEGAL GUNS. Anyone caught with an illegal gun should serve mandatory jail time, and anyone selling or trafficking them should go to jail for life, first offense.

Part a: Get your political advocates to stop being so uninformed and extreme, and you'd have gun licensing within 5 years. As it is, eventually one of your political leaders will say something so fucking stupid and factually wrong (see "what is a barrel shroud" and "just fire two shotgun blasts into the air"), that you lose all credibility and trust with the moderates you'd need to win.

Part b: The issue here is that you could define a single-shot musket to be the only "legal" gun, and a double-barreled shotgun to be "illegal", and for owning a double-barreled shotgun you'd serve mandatory jail time.

Also, the gangbangers and other ex-cons who currently own the majority of "illegal" guns often don't really give a shit about going back to jail.

 

[Double Trouble]

If only we had an example where a geographically isolated country had inacted gun control policies and subsequently the rate of gun related homicides fell.

I wait, we do! Australia.

Australia is not the US. I haven't seen official stats, but lets say gun related homicides have fallen there...what has happened to the other crime rates? (rapes, burglaries, robberies and such). Law abiding citizens are now less able to defend themselves. If you actually could effectively control guns coming into the country (like you might be able to with an island), that's one thing, but in the US gun control laws are a double lose proposition. You're disarming those that follow the law, and at the same time you have absolutely no way of controlling the guns among criminals, with an endless supply of guns already available to them.

Lose lose proposition.