The left in the US is so retarded.. its insane.

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Lifer
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Kinda like we pay for their defense. They get 4 weeks minimum vacations, and we get to pay for it.

UK has for most of the post-WW2 period spent the same, or frequently higher, proportion of its GDP on "defense" as the US. Maybe the Germans not so much, but there are specific reasons for that (nobody was particularly keen on Germany building a strong military).
 

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Wealth inequality, health inequality, living inequality and countless other inequalities are increasing.

Yet, the left is worried about how few black coaches are in the NFL. Sign of the times. Oh look, more minorities in TV ads. We've made progress!

(While in the real world, minorities are having a harder time economically and people can't even find an affordable house days)
Link to any Democrat talking about black coaches in the NFL. Link to any Democrat responsible for or influencing the number of minorities in TV ads.
 

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Link to any Democrat talking about black coaches in the NFL. Link to any Democrat responsible for or influencing the number of minorities in TV ads.
As an informed consumer of conservative propaganda I can guarantee you that it is filled with how Democrats focus only on those subjects. Not his fault you aren't consuming genuine news sources committed to truth.
 

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Obviously the major difference in US politics and most European countries is that, you only have two major parties, while we in Europe have several, leaving room for communist parties, very socialist parties but still democratic, social democrats and so on. So it is easier to find a party that is in line with your own beliefs. The trouble comes when they have to find the compromises after elections. Currently we have three parties based on socialist ideology, three on liberalism/socialliberalism, one conservative, two nationalism, and then some who has left other parties and started their own.
 

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Obviously the major difference in US politics and most European countries is that, you only have two major parties, while we in Europe have several, leaving room for communist parties, very socialist parties but still democratic, social democrats and so on. So it is easier to find a party that is in line with your own beliefs. The trouble comes when they have to find the compromises after elections. Currently we have three parties based on socialist ideology, three on liberalism/socialliberalism, one conservative, two nationalism, and then some who has left other parties and started their own.
First-past-the-post elections in most jurisdictions and the Electoral College are two of the biggest hindrances to any kind of governmental function in the US.
 

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The Europeans have it hard.... here in Australia we usually get 6 weeks holiday fully paid :cool:
I got 17.5 days a year in my last 5 years of work. Before I retired, my corporate parent was bought out by Harris. Fortunately, I left before they got to decimate my obviously over benefitted self. Ask me how I feel about corporations.
 

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Also until 7 years old you get two days off per kid, no specific number of sick leave days/although if deemed to high you can get fired, but that process has to follow a specific set of rules. Two days off for sick kids.
 

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The US has not had class-politics at the centre of things for a long time, if it ever was. And it does seem as if at one point 'the left' found itself confined to the academy, so became obsessively-focussed on issues that were most salient there, namely language and culture.

Getting fixated on ever-more-nuanced and subtle aspects of those things is obviously going to appeal to the highly-formally-educated, but it's inherently exclusionary towards everyone else. The paradox is that being in a position where you can identify and talk about ever-more-complicated forms of 'privilege' is itself a form of privilege.

But, as much as it's part of my culture to see class as primary, I don't believe it makes any sense at all to dismiss racial politics, when race and race-based inequity, has always been central to US history, since, er, the birth of the nation.
 
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Allegedly some of those Confederate "memorial" statues went up during times when black and white workers in the areas they were erected in were engaging in labour disputes together. Seems that part of the purpose of those statues was to remind poorer white people what "side" they were supposed to be on.