I work at Shell, it's in the Shell skyscraper 
I'm in the Seismic computing division, I used to work in Commercial accounting systems. It's actually quite a nice place to work, and you have lots of different places to move around within I&C. An Oil company wouldn't have been the first place I'd have thought of getting a job as a Computer Science personage, but now that I have worked here for a while it's quite enjoyable
I'm in the Seismic computing division, I used to work in Commercial accounting systems. It's actually quite a nice place to work, and you have lots of different places to move around within I&C. An Oil company wouldn't have been the first place I'd have thought of getting a job as a Computer Science personage, but now that I have worked here for a while it's quite enjoyable
No not exactly.
And technically speaking Shell doesn't own any gas stations.
They are owned by private businessmen.
They just sell Shell fuel products.
And technically speaking Shell doesn't own any gas stations.
They are owned by private businessmen.
They just sell Shell fuel products.
Geee we only have 2.4 Ghz phones........ tell him to go to a retail store and look at the 2.4 Ghz phones... then he will feel like an idiot. Granted a phone does not work the same way, but it still does none the less run at 2400Mhz.
Just as others have stated, we will ALWAYS find workarounds to physics and science. Thought the earth and universe remain static as the laws go.... but we adapt and find many new ways to hack around our limitations.
Just as others have stated, we will ALWAYS find workarounds to physics and science. Thought the earth and universe remain static as the laws go.... but we adapt and find many new ways to hack around our limitations.
The ghz of the phone is the frequency of waves that it transmits on. Not how fast the processor in it runs.
I remember the time when a Telco installman gave me a sheet that said 28.8 was the fastest you can get on POTS lines. Now with DSL in the picture so much for that idea.
I guess all these laws only pertains to what we know, rather than what we DON'T know yet.
I guess all these laws only pertains to what we know, rather than what we DON'T know yet.
Let me just insert this for what it's worth:
A friend of mine graduated from college with a BACHELOR OF FINE ARTS degree... And got his first job (took his pick from many offers) as a consultant/programmer at Stonebridge in Birmingham and started at $48,600/yr. plus mega benefits. No certs, no degree. He's also one of the only "elite" at the firm to have gotten promoted within the first few weeks, and one of only a tiny handful to have survived the layoffs there recently. He's swamped with job offers and is considering his options. --So all this crap about not getting a good job without a good CS degree and all that is falling on deaf ears here.
Ricky
DesignDawg
P.S.-- He programmed in his spare time while working on his BFA
A friend of mine graduated from college with a BACHELOR OF FINE ARTS degree... And got his first job (took his pick from many offers) as a consultant/programmer at Stonebridge in Birmingham and started at $48,600/yr. plus mega benefits. No certs, no degree. He's also one of the only "elite" at the firm to have gotten promoted within the first few weeks, and one of only a tiny handful to have survived the layoffs there recently. He's swamped with job offers and is considering his options. --So all this crap about not getting a good job without a good CS degree and all that is falling on deaf ears here.
Ricky
DesignDawg
P.S.-- He programmed in his spare time while working on his BFA
<<<< The ghz of the phone is the frequency of waves that it transmits on. Not how fast the processor in it runs. >>>>
Yeah....and I said it was? Just simply stated that frequencies in excess of the Ghz range are going to be posseble for everything, only time hinders it.
Microwave and UV lights run a much higher frequency....
And as stated, there has been sucsessfull overclocks beyond 2Ghz.
Yeah....and I said it was? Just simply stated that frequencies in excess of the Ghz range are going to be posseble for everything, only time hinders it.
Microwave and UV lights run a much higher frequency....
And as stated, there has been sucsessfull overclocks beyond 2Ghz.
Ricky, I wasn't coming down at all on people without a degree. Your friend obviusly is talented and has some real world skills/experience. My only gripe was with people with almost no knowledge or experience just a bunch of certs. I think you just misunderstood what I was trying to say; though I do apologize if I offended you.
"The laws of physics won't allow CPUs to go any faster than 2GHz"
Ah - dammit, the Intel vs. AMD showdown is nearly immediate then . *ROFL* ... as if.
As history has proven, we've broken quite a few "impossible to break" physical barriers & boundaries. Where there is a will, there's a way.
Point your foolishly deluded friend (is he?) towards the roadmaps (supposedly confidential) that are published on the on-line newspapers (the Register, Inquirer, etc.) and point him at the Intel one.
"There - 2GHz ... see? And I'll bet with you as well that by next year we'll be above that by a fair bit. What do you say?".
Anyway - he's wrong, & needs some clear talking to about how ignorant he is, this much is certain.
Ah - dammit, the Intel vs. AMD showdown is nearly immediate then . *ROFL* ... as if
.As history has proven, we've broken quite a few "impossible to break" physical barriers & boundaries. Where there is a will, there's a way.
Point your foolishly deluded friend (is he?) towards the roadmaps (supposedly confidential) that are published on the on-line newspapers (the Register, Inquirer, etc.) and point him at the Intel one.
"There - 2GHz ... see? And I'll bet with you as well that by next year we'll be above that by a fair bit. What do you say?"
.Anyway - he's wrong, & needs some clear talking to about how ignorant he is, this much is certain
.<< Just simply stated that frequencies in excess of the Ghz range are going to be posseble for everything, only time hinders it. >>
That is completely a different topic there.... Even though u want to say that, its like saying:
"I know that apples are a fruit, but the Mustang V-8 has a 5.0 Liter engine."
The frequency of a light or a radio wave has nothing to do with the frequency of a CPU. The frequency of UV and even NORMAL light (forget about microwaves) have always been greater than the 2 GHz, its been like that before man invented electricity. (there is plenty of light from the sun). What we are talking about here is how fast a bit can be turned on or off on a CPU, not how fast a charged particle can vibrate.
No offense, but a post like that should be straightened out for other readers.
=)
on the day the first 2ghz cpu is released... everyone should find thier local DeVrey "college" and just throw a huge party.... and when someone asks why you're throwin this party... ask em if they're a student there... if they say yes... just say, CUZ YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!
reallly loudly...
reallly loudly...
First off remember the moto "At DeVry we (they) try!"
" He blew up and said in a very haughty tone that I didn't know what I was talking about and that DeVry has taught him that the laws of physics won't allow CPUs to go any faster than 2GHz. When I told him that he has been given false information, and that there are P4s running overclocked above 2GHz right now and true 2GHz chips should be available "
The topic he is talking about is specifically regarding the 0.25um manufacturing process in use a few years ago. And the theory actually states 3GHz as the limit (from what I've read and recall from college).
See this thread for more.
Thorin
" He blew up and said in a very haughty tone that I didn't know what I was talking about and that DeVry has taught him that the laws of physics won't allow CPUs to go any faster than 2GHz. When I told him that he has been given false information, and that there are P4s running overclocked above 2GHz right now and true 2GHz chips should be available "
The topic he is talking about is specifically regarding the 0.25um manufacturing process in use a few years ago. And the theory actually states 3GHz as the limit (from what I've read and recall from college).
See this thread for more.
Thorin
HAHA...the funniest thing I've ever read on here. Everyone knows 2GHz is here...3GHz is probably 1 year down the road or so. And with 0.13mircon manufacturing processes...I'm sure 4GHz will be obtainable before a dramatic redesign is needed for AMD and Intel.
Those paper cert people who go through those crash courses will never know after coming out of training how to add a route to a visitor's laptop that will be gone once they reboot and that to get them to their home network, you must disable WSP client first. Those are the types of things you can only learn in the field. I've never met an MCSE who could figure out that problem yet.
The (guy) wasn't worth arguing with in the first place (w/that attitude). (I) would've just acted all interested and smiled back thinking, "Gee, you are such a <insert expletive>."
When people are giving me that (same) self-righteousness (that you have described), I just accept their narrow-mindedness and smirk back at them. "Right, oh you're so right..."
Unfortunately, they (sorta-kinda) realize my sarcasm and get even more po'd.
When people are giving me that (same) self-righteousness (that you have described), I just accept their narrow-mindedness and smirk back at them. "Right, oh you're so right..."
Unfortunately, they (sorta-kinda) realize my sarcasm and get even more po'd
.I am not really qualified to comment on any processor speed limits but my question has always been what happens in a CPU when the lead legnth becomes resonant, that is 1/4 wavelength or some multiple of a 1/4 wave and starts radiating.
Bleep
Bleep
u're all mistaken...the laws of physics DO NOT allow cpus to go faster than 2ghz...anything that has breached that speed barrier is defying the laws of physics...
as odd as it may seem, there are a lot of cpus currently defying the laws of physics...mine, for example, is contained inside the infinite curvature of space-time and running at
-18Ghz...it's also comprised of negative mass..
as odd as it may seem, there are a lot of cpus currently defying the laws of physics...mine, for example, is contained inside the infinite curvature of space-time and running at
-18Ghz...it's also comprised of negative mass..
<< It's true, DeVry's law of physics says that no CPU can go over 2Ghz and no student of their would ever get a job... >>
Man, that was funny!
Look at it this way, anyone who pays $5,000-15,000+ for the basic crap they are teaching them can't be too smart.
Personally I would have gone off on him and told him to put his money where his mouth is. After that, I'd show him an article of IBM hitting 4GHz+ already and I'd calmly strolled over to the table where he placed his bet. Then I would given him a smile and swiped his money. TRENDING THREADS
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