The Last Jedi is now on Netflix.

[Kaido]

The weakest part of the movie is Kylo Ren played by Adam Driver....just can't fill Darth Vader's shoes.

Can you imagine if they had used someone like Tom Hiddleston for Kylo?

 

[Kaido]

It bums me out that so many folks didn't have fun watching this movie. I only wish you could have seen it through my eyes (or the eyes of a kid, because all of them I've talked to enjoyed the heck out of it, too).

For me, as a space movie, it was fun. As a Star Wars movie, they completely missed the boat on the Force, which is kind of at the heart of the originals. We want to believe in something greater than ourselves, more powerful than ourselves, and we all want to be the hero in our own stories, and the original three episodes took us on that journey with Luke, Leia, Han, C-3PO, and R2-D2.

The Last Jedi had a lot of the right elements, but didn't feel like a bullseye in the SW universe. The Force Awakens felt like a rehash, but at least felt like a rehash with a sense of direction...there was BB-8, there was Rey dipping her toes into using the Force, there was an over-arching mysterious bad dude named Snoke (which I just realized is a pretty lame name, lol), etc.

A lot of us are sensitive to how Star Wars is presented because for many of us, it was our first entry into the world of nerds. We were into sci-fi & played with brooms as lightsabers & pretended we had the Force & grew up as geeks. We wanted the new movies to do justice to the old movies, and we already got burned by the prequels with Jar Jar Binks, that lame love story, etc.

There are a lot of good things about the new movies. The visuals are just incredible...mind-blowingly good CGI. Despite being overly-flippant in TLJ, I did end up enjoying the unexpected humor. It's just that TLJ didn't feel like it had that SW feel at its core. The heart was missing. A fun space movie, yes, a great Star Wars movie...nah.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Anyway, for those who are uninterested in Star Wars and would never actually pay to watch it, now you can do so for free.

And for those who, like me, are uninterested in SW, why would we bother watching it even if it was for free?

 

[bigi]

GOD, what a nightmare and disgrace to original Star Wars. I attempted to watch this, and the FF was not fast enough.

 

[K1052]

In numerous Star Wars movies you have fighters mixing it up with capital ships, yet Kylo Ren gets called back because they can’t support him at range? With two other fighters, he managed to take out the hangar and the bridge. Swarm the Resistance ships with fighters and call it a day. Would have been better if they had the First Order sadistically f’ing with the Resistance ships like a cat with a mouse.

This keeps tradition since the Empire sent out like a dozen Tie fighters to protect the entire Death Star (both really) which, conceivably, contains many thousands of fighters.

The entire First Order fleet can’t go faster than the crippled Resistance flag ship, yet in ESB you have Star Destroyers giving chase to the Millenium Falcon? Still don’t understand why the First Order couldn’t hyperspace in front of the Resistance fleet.

The Mon Cal cruiser wasn't crippled. Hanger deck and bridge were wiped out but nothing wrong with the engines. Quick hyperspace jumps are possible but they'd just change course and everyone would be back to where they started.

The First Order capital ship gets its bridge blown up, but it has a secondary redundant bridge?

Probably decided multiple Command decks were a good idea after the Executor cratered into DS2.

Why is Admiral Holdo wearing an evening dress?

Because she's Laura Dern and DGAF.

But I guess cutting the saddles off a bunch of race horse bunny llamas made it all worth it

The while casino planet side quest was a dumb idea plus badly executed...like something out of the prequels. Could very much have skipped that.

Always happy to see Benecio Del Toro though.

 

[KeithTalent]

Wait, what about the prequels?

I don't mind the third one and I like a bunch of stuff in Phantom Menace (pretty much anything without Jake Lloyd & Jar-Jar). Attack of the Clones is unwatchable.

KT

 

[sdifox]

7 months later and I still don't know what to feel about this movie...I'm still conflicted / lost.

I haven't even bothered to watch it.

 

[sdifox]

Ep 1 introduced us to Jar Jar Binks so meesa thinks your ranking is suspect.

TLJ wasn't a classic, but it had its moments and I enjoyed it more than The Force Awakens.

Episode 1 was not great, but it was miles ahead of episode 2 and 3.

 

[blankslate]

The Last Jedi is a steaming pile...

sadly one argument that some defenders of that feces sandwich use to deflect criticism is to say "Oh well the critics just hate 'Strong Female Characters'."
Hogwash... many critics of TLJ also love Aliens, Terminator 2, the Matrix and Kill Bill. 3 guesses as to what factor all those movies have in common...

There's a reason TLJ was divisive and it isn't because half the fans hate proactive women characters in movies.
Rather it's the director...
Rian Johnson is on video as saying that he is interested in making a movie that some like very much or love while other parts of the audience dislike or hate

skip to about 52 seconds in the above video to get to the footage of Rian Johnson.

Thank to that guy I no longer just go to opening night of a SW movie without question.... now I have to look at various sites to find out the audience reviews as the critics have let us down in regards to recent SW films.
Speaking as a person who watched TFA multiple times at the movies and argued against its detractors... thanks for proving me wrong Disney/Lucasfilm.


______

 

[shortylickens]

And for those who, like me, are uninterested in SW, why would we bother watching it even if it was for free?

So when you fuckers bad mouth it you will actually know what the fuck is going on.
No offense but the majority of you haters are just regurgitating crap you read elsewhere.

 

[Mayne]

I can't even watch to be honest..knowing they killed off the best part of the movies.

 

[Chaotic42]

And for those who, like me, are uninterested in SW, why would we bother watching it even if it was for free?

Star Wars is a significant cultural work, so you'd watch it for the same reason you might read Beowulf or Wuthering Heights.

 

[13Gigatons]

If George Lucas cared that much about Star Wars he would have never sold it to Disney. However the newer star wars films still make buckets of money and that's all Hollywood cares about.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

So when you fuckers bad mouth it you will actually know what the fuck is going on.
No offense but the majority of you haters are just regurgitating crap you read elsewhere.

You assume I have not (tried to) watch them. I played a SW-based MUD a while in the 90s (friends played it so I joined them), so eventhough I had watched E4-6 before and thought it was meh I decided to give the whole series a try again. It took 5 tries to watch E5 as I kept falling asleep about 5-20 mins into it.
(Oh, watched 1-3 later on, the third one mostly on fast forward to skip all the bad choreographed fights and stuff, again didn't enjoy it much, didn't bother with the recent stuff anymore)

Star Wars is a significant cultural work, so you'd watch it for the same reason you might read Beowulf or Wuthering Heights.

E4-6 maybe. But definately not the parts after that. And even then I doubt SW will survive as long as Beowulf. It will be seen as renewing for its time when it comes to special effects, but the story was a quite bland black and white remake of many good vs bad stories before its time.

 

[renz20003]

Complaints:

Spoiler

1. Leia floating through space like Mary Poppins threw me out of the movie.

2. Killing Luke was a dumb move, imo. I think he's very talented & would have loved to see him in more episodes.

3. The movie was too flippant. It was funny when Luke threw the lightsaber over his shoulder, but they never nailed down any serious parts. Even Yoda's appearance was pretty lame.

4. They killed Snoke. No backstory. Just kthxbye. I felt ripped off.

5. What was the point of the whole casino scene again?

6. Didn't the Force have something to do with this movie? Like...the entire point of it?

7. Didn't really get into the music, like at the end around Snoke & all that. The music of the originals is literally what made the movie. Without the music, it would simply not be Star Wars.

I mean, I'll watch every single Star Wars movie that comes out, until the end of time. But I felt like this one completely missed the point. The Force Awakens was a rehash of the first three movies, but I felt like it had promise - the visuals were great, the story was fun, they threw some Force stuff in, they threw some lightsaber stuff in - whereas The Last Jedi just felt like a space movie. It was pretty. It was entertaining. But to me, the whole point of Star Wars is that you're going on an adventure with "the crew", in space, that results in you wanting to FEEL the Force and use brooms as lightsabers after you walk out of the movie theater.

The Last Jedi was just kind of a shrug.

I expected better complaints from you... very disappointed

 

[ultimatebob]

Truth.

 

[NoTine42]

FYI, Disney signed a contract with Netflix to release all new releases there through 2019. So I doubt it has anything to do with sells.

Yep, Thor Ragnarok make it to Netflix on June 5, so it’s about the same timeframe as other Disney movies.

 

[Zorba]

Wait, what about the prequels?

Those at least have a strong story and follow an arc. The directing and screen plays were trash, but at least there was a story. TFA was a 100% rehash with less concern with physics, storyline, character development and emo Vader.

 

[madoka]

 

[DrunkenSano]

This movie was shit, even shittier than the prequels. The casino planet was retarded, the white sand/snow/red dust planet was retarded. How an Imperial fleet of one Super Dreadnought Star Destroyer and a bunch of regular Star Destroyers can't handle one cruiser, one frigate, and one corvette is also retarded. Nothing made sense. Nothing.

Also, did anyone notice that when the Falcon was flying through the red crystal maze on the mining planet, it looks like they just took the set from interior of the second unfinished Death Star and put red crystals over it?

 

[Genx87]

Anybody get the feeling Star Wars has outlasted its own hype? Prequels were bad, 7,8 were pretty bad. The side stories are bland. 3 movies people loved and 7 movies people at best have mixed opinions. And at worst downright hated. Maybe it is time for fans to put the story to rest. The creator of the story did when he cashed out to Disney.

 

[DrunkenSano]

I would say the original 3 were best, followed by Rogue One. I liked Rogue One because heroes actually died. The rest can go through the edit/undo process so we can pretend they never happened. They should've let the authors like Timothy Zahn who wrote the Thrawn Trilogy write these movies so they at least made sense.

 

[Vindris]

5 > RO > 4 > 6 > 7 > 3 > Solo > 8 > 1 > 2

Biggest disappointment for me was Snoke being killed, with no explanation as to where he came from. Next episode could potentially clean up that mess. I want his backstory. He is more intriguing to me than anything else in the new trilogy.

 

[thebestMAX]

two words, Laura Dern. She seems to have grown 2 ft taller.

I found Commander D'acy, (Amanda Lawrence) interesting. Kylo Ren, not so much.

OK CGI FTW?

Say hello to Chewbaccas Lil friends.

Ill watch anything Star Wars but the essence seems to be gone.

 

[zinfamous]

This movie was shit, even shittier than the prequels. The casino planet was retarded, the white sand/snow/red dust planet was retarded. How an Imperial fleet of one Super Dreadnought Star Destroyer and a bunch of regular Star Destroyers can't handle one cruiser, one frigate, and one corvette is also retarded. Nothing made sense. Nothing.

Also, did anyone notice that when the Falcon was flying through the red crystal maze on the mining planet, it looks like they just took the set from interior of the second unfinished Death Star and put red crystals over it?

I didn't mind the salt/red color planet thing. If anything, it was a pretty cool visual that could have stood out on its own, but surrounded by a terrible movie. I didn't mind that battle sequence, either, but just like the first part of this shitty movie and that final party, it was basically episode 5. Being such a shitty movie, it's easy to look at that and find another reason to criticize everything. If TLJ was at least as good as Rogue One, I think those visuals and that sequence would be seen as a landmark (OK, without the stupid bit with the new and pointless chick crashing her speeder thing into the less-new pointless dude)

And yes, first time I saw this with the falcon flying through yet another tight cave with structures, I immediately think about how we can't have a Star Wars flick without having sequences of the falcon flying through tight tunnels like this. This one was exactly like episode 6. I think they just recycled that original film and replaced the death star pilons with crystal structures.