The Last Jedi is now on Netflix.

[jackstar7]

Those at least have a strong story and follow an arc. The directing and screen plays were trash, but at least there was a story. TFA was a 100% rehash with less concern with physics, storyline, character development and emo Vader.

Who is the main character in Phantom Menace?

 

[zinfamous]

Who is the main character in Phantom Menace?

Our collective childhoods.

 

[soulcougher73]

And for those who, like me, are uninterested in SW, why would we bother watching it even if it was for free?

Why would you even bother to post in a thread about SW if you are uninterested?

 

[zinfamous]

Why would even you even bother to post in a thread about SW if you are uninterested?

He heard they were giving out coolcoins, and thought that doing so might earn him one.

 

[Homerboy]

Our collective childhoods.

That's not the main character, that's the victim

 

[zinfamous]

That's not the main character, that's the victim

Same thing, and what I was implying.

 

[Paratus]

Complaints:

Spoiler

1. Leia floating through space like Mary Poppins threw me out of the movie.

2. Killing Luke was a dumb move, imo. I think he's very talented & would have loved to see him in more episodes.

3. The movie was too flippant. It was funny when Luke threw the lightsaber over his shoulder, but they never nailed down any serious parts. Even Yoda's appearance was pretty lame.

4. They killed Snoke. No backstory. Just kthxbye. I felt ripped off.

5. What was the point of the whole casino scene again?

6. Didn't the Force have something to do with this movie? Like...the entire point of it?

7. Didn't really get into the music, like at the end around Snoke & all that. The music of the originals is literally what made the movie. Without the music, it would simply not be Star Wars.

I mean, I'll watch every single Star Wars movie that comes out, until the end of time. But I felt like this one completely missed the point. The Force Awakens was a rehash of the first three movies, but I felt like it had promise - the visuals were great, the story was fun, they threw some Force stuff in, they threw some lightsaber stuff in - whereas The Last Jedi just felt like a space movie. It was pretty. It was entertaining. But to me, the whole point of Star Wars is that you're going on an adventure with "the crew", in space, that results in you wanting to FEEL the Force and use brooms as lightsabers after you walk out of the movie theater.

The Last Jedi was just kind of a shrug.

The weakest part of the movie is Kylo Ren played by Adam Driver....just can't fill Darth Vader's shoes.

This is the Kylo Ren we need and his reactions makes the movies at least amusing.

 

[Zorba]

Who is the main character in Phantom Menace?

Do you have to have a single main character to have a decent story? Regardless, I already said the execution sucked.

 

[jackstar7]

Do you have to have a single main character to have a decent story? Regardless, I already said the execution sucked.

Yeah, I am not meaning to really dig in on them, I just think the prequels are vastly inferior to both TFA and TLJ. You defended the prequel stories and I just find them more terrible... but it's all a matter of degrees I suppose.

Opinions: we have some.

 

[Zorba]

Yeah, I am not meaning to really dig in on them, I just think the prequels are vastly inferior to both TFA and TLJ. You defended the prequel stories and I just find them more terrible... but it's all a matter of degrees I suppose.

Opinions: we have some.

I'll say both TFA and TLJ had much better execution, in every possible way, but I find the under lying story lines to be complete crap. And while the acting is much better, many of the characters are pretty annoying.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Why would you even bother to post in a thread about SW if you are uninterested?

The other option was working.

 

[Starbuck1975]

This keeps tradition since the Empire sent out like a dozen Tie fighters to protect the entire Death Star (both really) which, conceivably, contains many thousands of fighters.

Not really, as Kylo Ren was doing a good job of tearing things up without capital ship support, pulling him back was arbitrary and stupid.

The Mon Cal cruiser wasn't crippled. Hanger deck and bridge were wiped out but nothing wrong with the engines. Quick hyperspace jumps are possible but they'd just change course and everyone would be back to where they started.

So why not hyperspace directly in front of the trajectory of the flag ship. Vader literally did just that in R1.

Probably decided multiple Command decks were a good idea after the Executor cratered into DS2.

It would seem after the Executor, fortifying the shields on the bridge would be a better solution.

Because she's Laura Dern and DGAF.

Great actress, horribly pointless character

The while casino planet side quest was a dumb idea plus badly executed...like something out of the prequels. Could very much have skipped that.

yup

Always happy to see Benecio Del Toro though.

Another great actor horribly wasted in this film.

Only redeeming quality of the movie was the tension between Rey and Kylo Ren, and the throne room scene.

When Rey faced the dark side in a way that Luke feared, I thought they would perhaps explore a less binary balance to the Force. They could have taken this in so many directions. Instead we got Luke milking sea cows, hyperspace kamikaze, Mary Poppins Leia and astral projection.

 

[Hugo Drax]

Wow "The force is female" Is Vice Admiral Holdo supposed to represent a strong female leader? Aloof, cold, paranoid,bitchy and uncommunicative Someone really messed up. I noticed there was zero camaraderie,chemistry.amongst the rebels. Finn underwent a lobotomy, what a difference between episode 7 and 8. Ellen Ripley is a strong female character, Admiral Holdo is a joke manager that just came off a Dilbert comic strip. No wonder Solo failed at the box office, after watching episode 8 I would not be enticed to watch the next Star Wars movie.

Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson need to go there is still time to salvage the franchise.

 

[zerocool84]

The #1 problem with The Last Jedi is that Rian Johnson did not care that he was making a part two of a three part story arc. He did not care to continue the story that was started in Force Awakens. When you look at the writing credits, it is only Rian. He didn't like something that was set up in the previous movie, and instead of going along with it, or improving it, making it a better cohesive story, he decides to basically throw it out. Plus with the un needed casino town part, the movie did not further along what was set up. Rian Johnson should not have been allowed to direct and write part two by himself.

Plus our big bad for the third movie is Kylo "Teen Emo" Ren??? Horrible horrible set up for the third movie. JJ does not have a lot to work with on part 3.

 

[Sonikku]

Kylo as the main villain in 9 is a joke. Has he won a single battle? He just seems to get humiliated every movie. First by a woman with basically no training. Second by a hologram of a guy who wasn't even there. If you ask me, Rey should have gotten her asked kicked and lost a hand, as is customary among the 2nd film in a Star Wars trilogy. From getting wrecked in the second movie, she could bounce back and make a comeback in the third. But no. She's never tasted defeat. And with only one movie left against a villain she beat with no training, one can only expect that now it'll be a stomp.

 

[jackstar7]

Rian Johnson failed so hard he made the company a billion dollars and is getting his own trilogy.

 

[rstrohkirch]

Michael Bay would have made them 1.5 billion. Probably would have been a better move too.

=]

 

[jackstar7]

Michael Bay would have made them 1.5 billion. Probably would have been a better move too.

=]

Evidence does not support the latter of your suppositions. I'll take Johnson's body of work over Bay's any day.

 

[Skel]

Evidence does not support the latter of your suppositions. I'll take Johnson's body of work over Bay's any day.

I had to go look them up, but Bay's had a few good movies here and there. Johnson's only real claim to fame moviewise is Looper, and maybe Brick. He did direct a few episodes of Breaking Bad but I've been told a couple of times that TV directors aren't like movie directors. They only shoot what the EP tells them to, vs a movie where they're much much more involved.

 

[jackstar7]

I had to go look them up, but Bay's had a few good movies here and there. Johnson's only real claim to fame moviewise is Looper, and maybe Brick. He did direct a few episodes of Breaking Bad but I've been told a couple of times that TV directors aren't like movie directors. They only shoot what the EP tells them to, vs a movie where they're much much more involved.

I'll take Brick and Looper over any Bay movie though. Also, he wrote the movie, so in theory, he knew what he wanted top-to-bottom.

 

[rstrohkirch]

I was being sarcastic. This movie was going to do a billion dollars as long as you put even a remotely average person in charge of it. And that's what we got, an average at best movie which was no better then the numerous Michael Bay movies. Hence my joke.

It still is baffling to me how someone who has only 3 movie with a total gross in the US of like 70mil gets to direct AND write the script for a billion dollar movie.

 

[jackstar7]

I was being sarcastic. This movie was going to do a billion dollars as long as you put even a remotely average person in charge of it. And that's what we got, an average at best movie which was no better then the numerous Michael Bay movies. Hence my joke.

It still is baffling to me how someone who has only 3 movie with a total gross in the US of like 70mil gets to direct AND write the script for a billion dollar movie.

#1 I bet he worked cheap.
There's no number 2. That's probably the reason. He could hit a budget. I don't imagine the producers gave much of a shit beyond that. Maybe JJ vouched for him or something.

But I'm glad he got a shot and will get more. I realize I'm in the vocal minority.

 

[Skel]

#1 I bet he worked cheap.
There's no number 2. That's probably the reason. He could hit a budget. I don't imagine the producers gave much of a shit beyond that. Maybe JJ vouched for him or something.

But I'm glad he got a shot and will get more. I realize I'm in the vocal minority.

I would assume that he turned in a script that the powers that be in Disney liked. I have a really hard time with the idea that he went rouge and made a movie they wouldn't have liked. Hell, Solo went through more than one try, so the fact he got it all in one meant they liked it. I may not have cared for it, but whoever runs it loved it. I'm also under no impression that I'm owed anything with Star Wars. They've made it very clear in this movie that I'm not the demographic they want, and they're completely justified in believing whatever they want. I own nothing on the franchise. I'll just move on and maybe catch future Star Wars films on TV when it's freeish (I do pay a cable bill). If they drive it into the ground I'll shrug and be right were I was years ago after Return and there wasn't anything new Star Wars wise. I kind of get that people have a very strong connection to the IP, but I've been well trained over the years in regards to entertainment IP to just let somethings go. Sadly Star Wars is one of them.

 

[zinfamous]

Rian Johnson failed so hard he made the company a billion dollars and is getting his own trilogy.

It's a fricking Star Wars movie. It would have earned $1 billion+ if written and directed by Mayne, FFS.

And you know what, it probably would have been better.

 

[Chaotic42]

It's a fricking Star Wars movie. It would have earned $1 billion+ if written and directed by Mayne, FFS.

And you know what, it probably would have been better.

"And that's when he was betrayed by his own nephew..."

I'd watch it. Like I said, The Last Jedi literally feels like it was written by an AI which was made to read the scripts from the previous movies. Almost as good as the Bob Ross AI script:

https://twitter.com/KeatonPatti/status/1014220692936589312