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Skel

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I'd rather watch a Jar Jar Binks origin movie than sit through that train wreak again.
 

DietDrThunder

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That's it exactly, you've nailed it!

I'm waiting for Solo to hit the $5 theater because while I do want to see it on the big screen, I'm afraid it's going to go the Rogue One or Last Jedi route & just be kind of a cool space movie instead of a part of the SW universe.

tbh, I really wish they had followed the books. There were so many amazing books written in the expanded universe, like just some really incredible, top-notch stuff (along with some pretty mediocre stuff, but when the stories were good, they were good), and they could have pumped out a movie every month until the end of time based on those novels & made trillions because every single Star Wars nerd on the planet would have gone to see them. Huge missed opportunity, imo. Although I understand they're building it up as a Disney franchises & for theme parks & wanted control of new stories & whatnot, but still...so much great content that would have been just absolutely fabulous to make into high-quality films. I would love to see something like Solo directed by Taratino, the next full-on SW movie directed by Nolan, the Jedi kids movie with training by Luke directed by Spielberg, etc.

I have the same problem with the new Star Trek movies. I really enjoyed all three of them (well, maybe not the weird dirtbike scene from the last one, that kind of jumped the shark for me lol) as really super fun space movies, but they were not 'Star Trek' movies...Star Trek is more about thinking & figuring out how to handle situations than action, something a little bit meaty to think about & wrap your mind around. Like when the Borg queen gives Data skin, or when they find the planet with the hackey-sack-playing kids who came from an advanced space-faring society that had already bypassed our Trekkie team. Just another good movie, rather than a good Star Trek movie, if that makes sense.

I was really hoping with TFW that they would launch off the rehash (which was fun, don't get me wrong) & go on a Force-fueled adventure, but it simply hasn't happened. They missed the boat on the right elements for keeping it fun. Same deal with Transformers. First movie? Loads of fun! Had the transforming sound & a good story etc. The fifth one, the Last Knight? One of the dumbest movies I've ever seen. They finally fixed the faces on the robots & made it so you could tell them apart, and it was just beyond lame & scatterbrained of a movie. It really bugs me that they don't stay true to their roots, to the stuff that everyone loved originally. Which is why I like Breaking Bad so much...start to finish, just a solid, magnificent job all around. But then you have Lost, where the first two seasons were the bomb dot com, and then it quickly went downhill from there.

So yes Disney, I will give you my money because I am a fish in your barrel and you have the Star Wars bullet, but that doesn't mean I have to be happy about it :D
I agree with your assessment of the new Star Trek movies as well. There again, Jar Jar Abrams screwed this franchise up also. You could tell that he really didn't want to make a Star Trek movie, so that is why they had the feel of a Star Wars movie (I mean come on, a planet destroying space ship? How close to Star Wars do you get?). In Jar Jar's first Star Trek movie there was even an R2D2 in the debris field of all the destroyed star ships. Don't get me wrong, they were action packed movies, they just weren't Star Trek movies. You'll probably rag on me, but I still believe the best Star Trek movie was Star Trek II, the Wrath of Kahn. To me the second best Star Trek movie was Star Trek VI, The Undiscovered Country, followed closely by Star Trek First Contact.
Oh, and I can't wait for Quentin Tarantino's R rated Star Trek movie called Django in Space. NOT!
 
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Zorba

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FYI, Disney signed a contract with Netflix to release all new releases there through 2019. So I doubt it has anything to do with sells.
 
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WelshBloke

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Complaints:

1. Leia floating through space like Mary Poppins threw me out of the movie.

2. Killing Luke was a dumb move, imo. I think he's very talented & would have loved to see him in more episodes.

3. The movie was too flippant. It was funny when Luke threw the lightsaber over his shoulder, but they never nailed down any serious parts. Even Yoda's appearance was pretty lame.

4. They killed Snoke. No backstory. Just kthxbye. I felt ripped off.

5. What was the point of the whole casino scene again?

6. Didn't the Force have something to do with this movie? Like...the entire point of it?

7. Didn't really get into the music, like at the end around Snoke & all that. The music of the originals is literally what made the movie. Without the music, it would simply not be Star Wars.

I mean, I'll watch every single Star Wars movie that comes out, until the end of time. But I felt like this one completely missed the point. The Force Awakens was a rehash of the first three movies, but I felt like it had promise - the visuals were great, the story was fun, they threw some Force stuff in, they threw some lightsaber stuff in - whereas The Last Jedi just felt like a space movie. It was pretty. It was entertaining. But to me, the whole point of Star Wars is that you're going on an adventure with "the crew", in space, that results in you wanting to FEEL the Force and use brooms as lightsabers after you walk out of the movie theater.

The Last Jedi was just kind of a shrug.
Pretty much nailed it there.

#4 pissed me off. They have a great bad guy and they use him up like that and stick with Emo Vader?
 
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Homerboy

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That's it exactly, you've nailed it!

I'm waiting for Solo to hit the $5 theater because while I do want to see it on the big screen, I'm afraid it's going to go the Rogue One or Last Jedi route & just be kind of a cool space movie instead of a part of the SW universe.

tbh, I really wish they had followed the books. There were so many amazing books written in the expanded universe, like just some really incredible, top-notch stuff (along with some pretty mediocre stuff, but when the stories were good, they were good), and they could have pumped out a movie every month until the end of time based on those novels & made trillions because every single Star Wars nerd on the planet would have gone to see them. Huge missed opportunity, imo. Although I understand they're building it up as a Disney franchises & for theme parks & wanted control of new stories & whatnot, but still...so much great content that would have been just absolutely fabulous to make into high-quality films. I would love to see something like Solo directed by Taratino, the next full-on SW movie directed by Nolan, the Jedi kids movie with training by Luke directed by Spielberg, etc.

I have the same problem with the new Star Trek movies. I really enjoyed all three of them (well, maybe not the weird dirtbike scene from the last one, that kind of jumped the shark for me lol) as really super fun space movies, but they were not 'Star Trek' movies...Star Trek is more about thinking & figuring out how to handle situations than action, something a little bit meaty to think about & wrap your mind around. Like when the Borg queen gives Data skin, or when they find the planet with the hackey-sack-playing kids who came from an advanced space-faring society that had already bypassed our Trekkie team. Just another good movie, rather than a good Star Trek movie, if that makes sense.

I was really hoping with TFW that they would launch off the rehash (which was fun, don't get me wrong) & go on a Force-fueled adventure, but it simply hasn't happened. They missed the boat on the right elements for keeping it fun. Same deal with Transformers. First movie? Loads of fun! Had the transforming sound & a good story etc. The fifth one, the Last Knight? One of the dumbest movies I've ever seen. They finally fixed the faces on the robots & made it so you could tell them apart, and it was just beyond lame & scatterbrained of a movie. It really bugs me that they don't stay true to their roots, to the stuff that everyone loved originally. Which is why I like Breaking Bad so much...start to finish, just a solid, magnificent job all around. But then you have Lost, where the first two seasons were the bomb dot com, and then it quickly went downhill from there.

So yes Disney, I will give you my money because I am a fish in your barrel and you have the Star Wars bullet, but that doesn't mean I have to be happy about it :D

Oh, but I loved Rogue One - probably the best since ESB.
Solo was MUCH better than I thought. I loathed the idea of any movie telling the origins of Solo, as it is a story that is simply best left untold. But they did a decent job creating an entertaining movie out of it. There were some great tie-ins (and some not so great) to the existing Star Wars storyline. I was more than pleasantly surprised with the results. Obviously, there were some ridiculous holes and issues with it, but I still was totally entertained.

How they didn't have the Falcon's jump to light-speed fail at the end of it is beyond me. They missed an opportunity to end the movie on a PERFECT Solo-esque joke. Like, it boggles my mind that they blew that chance.
 
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I havent seen Solo yet, but this was by far the worst of the newer SW movies to come out. Rogue One and Force Awakens i enjoyed enough.
 

Starbuck1975

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Third viewing and it just keeps getting worst. The entire premise of the movie just doesn’t work. More things really started to stick out as just bad story decisions.

In numerous Star Wars movies you have fighters mixing it up with capital ships, yet Kylo Ren gets called back because they can’t support him at range? With two other fighters, he managed to take out the hangar and the bridge. Swarm the Resistance ships with fighters and call it a day. Would have been better if they had the First Order sadistically f’ing with the Resistance ships like a cat with a mouse.

The entire First Order fleet can’t go faster than the crippled Resistance flag ship, yet in ESB you have Star Destroyers giving chase to the Millenium Falcon? Still don’t understand why the First Order couldn’t hyperspace in front of the Resistance fleet.

The First Order capital ship gets its bridge blown up, but it has a secondary redundant bridge?

Why is Admiral Holdo wearing an evening dress?

But I guess cutting the saddles off a bunch of race horse bunny llamas made it all worth it.
 

dasherHampton

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I really have no interest in seeing it.

I lost it for Star Wars post-TFA. I have no problem with incorporating "diversity" into the series. But I was pretty turned off by fact that TFA was a tepid remake of ANH with many LOL ridiculous scenes.

No discussion of the movies intrinsic flaws was allowed. If you didn't love TFA you were a misogynistic, racist, has-been pig. End of story.

I need to be a part of that? Naw.
 

TXHokie

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I thought I remember them being "released" and dropping like WW II bombs out of a bomber. Maybe they were pushed, if so then yeah that does make sense. Well I'll rewatch it soon and find out I guess.

Star Wars weapon engineers sucks. Would've saved a lot of work by just strap them bombs onto a crappy ship and light speed into the big ship...or the cave. Yeah I know, it ruins the fun.
 

13Gigatons

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Didn't see the TFA but did watch this last night. I was mildly entertained. Thankfully the birds weren't overused.
The scene with Chewy cooking them was hilarious.
Leia flying through space was really bad. Her voice was annoying as well.
The WWII bombers were kinda dumb.
Luke dies from a broken hip after astral planing...right?

Anyways it wasn't a horrible movie....
 

jackstar7

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Huh.

For me I just enjoy Rey so much, especially as a different version of what Luke was. He was/is always encumbered by fear and doubt. She is called by the darkness and confronts it without hesitation and that just blows Luke's mind. Her insecurities do exist, too, she's hardly without flaws, but she's a totally different kind of Jedi and one that I enjoyed seeing develop and I'm one of the people that really enjoyed the throne room fight, including all the remixes.

For the rest, I liked that impulsive stupid choices were shown to be stupid and costly, while wisdom and trust were principles that should be respected.

Finn getting to fight Phasma was fun, too.

It bums me out that so many folks didn't have fun watching this movie. I only wish you could have seen it through my eyes (or the eyes of a kid, because all of them I've talked to enjoyed the heck out of it, too).
 

Chaotic42

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I just finished it. I'm luke warm (no pun intended) on Star Wars at best, and this was just kind of bland. It was exciting while they were fighting, but in a week I'll have forgotten everything about it just like Episode 7. The Rose character was annoying and there were tons of issues with the First Order as mentioned. I don't know, none of the characters really do anything for me besides Luke, Leia, and Poe. This almost felt like it was written by some sort of movie writing AI 10 years from now.
 

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Star Wars lost me with that piece of crap The Force Awakens. Have not had any interest in the series since then. Still enjoy the originals though.

KT
 
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Kaido

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I'd rather watch a Jar Jar Binks origin movie than sit through that train wreak again.

If you haven't seen it yet, check out the Phantom Edit. They cut Jar Jar out of the prequels...turns out the movies are actually pretty good!
 

13Gigatons

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This almost felt like it was written by some sort of movie writing AI 10 years from now.

I wonder if Hollywood has some kind of algorithm they feed scripts through. It sure feels that way with most of the junk out there. I think before computers they just used a check list.
 

13Gigatons

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The weakest part of the movie is Kylo Ren played by Adam Driver....just can't fill Darth Vader's shoes.
 
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zinfamous

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If you haven't seen it yet, check out the Phantom Edit. They cut Jar Jar out of the prequels...turns out the movies are actually pretty good!

No. they are still shit. unredeamable.

does Vaer still skill Children to make him all "badass"?

yeah, those movies are utter shit. nothing about them is, in any way, watchable.
 

zinfamous

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anyhoo, watched TLJ again last night.

Still a turd. What the fuck with this movie? Why did it have to be utter shit?

TFA was decent. Not shit, better than all the prequels, at least we got legit force people doing force stuff....and then we end all of that suddenly, because for some reason, we are angry at the guy and his staff that came before us...that is exactly TLJ. I hate all you people and your little movie, fuck off and die, I will make a shitty movie that also wrecks everything in one fell swoop, because someone else needs to step in and fix the mess that I made to ruin the mess that I calculated to be my bitter hate against the dude that wrote the previous film.

That's really what it is: I hate that guy so much, I will just grasp all of the flaws of that film and amplify them, and I will also kill everyone that matters, and further eliminate the new blood before it can ever make sense, such that every minute devoted to these characters up until now, has been a colossal waste of time.

And oh year: fuck you, people! But thank you for your $32/seat at a god damn Dolby Theater.
 

Kaido

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nothing about them is, in any way, watchable.

Dude what are you even talking about. I mean, just look at all of this quality content:

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