I agree with your assessment of the new Star Trek movies as well. There again, Jar Jar Abrams screwed this franchise up also. You could tell that he really didn't want to make a Star Trek movie, so that is why they had the feel of a Star Wars movie (I mean come on, a planet destroying space ship? How close to Star Wars do you get?). In Jar Jar's first Star Trek movie there was even an R2D2 in the debris field of all the destroyed star ships. Don't get me wrong, they were action packed movies, they just weren't Star Trek movies. You'll probably rag on me, but I still believe the best Star Trek movie was Star Trek II, the Wrath of Kahn. To me the second best Star Trek movie was Star Trek VI, The Undiscovered Country, followed closely by Star Trek First Contact.That's it exactly, you've nailed it!
I'm waiting for Solo to hit the $5 theater because while I do want to see it on the big screen, I'm afraid it's going to go the Rogue One or Last Jedi route & just be kind of a cool space movie instead of a part of the SW universe.
tbh, I really wish they had followed the books. There were so many amazing books written in the expanded universe, like just some really incredible, top-notch stuff (along with some pretty mediocre stuff, but when the stories were good, they were good), and they could have pumped out a movie every month until the end of time based on those novels & made trillions because every single Star Wars nerd on the planet would have gone to see them. Huge missed opportunity, imo. Although I understand they're building it up as a Disney franchises & for theme parks & wanted control of new stories & whatnot, but still...so much great content that would have been just absolutely fabulous to make into high-quality films. I would love to see something like Solo directed by Taratino, the next full-on SW movie directed by Nolan, the Jedi kids movie with training by Luke directed by Spielberg, etc.
I have the same problem with the new Star Trek movies. I really enjoyed all three of them (well, maybe not the weird dirtbike scene from the last one, that kind of jumped the shark for me lol) as really super fun space movies, but they were not 'Star Trek' movies...Star Trek is more about thinking & figuring out how to handle situations than action, something a little bit meaty to think about & wrap your mind around. Like when the Borg queen gives Data skin, or when they find the planet with the hackey-sack-playing kids who came from an advanced space-faring society that had already bypassed our Trekkie team. Just another good movie, rather than a good Star Trek movie, if that makes sense.
I was really hoping with TFW that they would launch off the rehash (which was fun, don't get me wrong) & go on a Force-fueled adventure, but it simply hasn't happened. They missed the boat on the right elements for keeping it fun. Same deal with Transformers. First movie? Loads of fun! Had the transforming sound & a good story etc. The fifth one, the Last Knight? One of the dumbest movies I've ever seen. They finally fixed the faces on the robots & made it so you could tell them apart, and it was just beyond lame & scatterbrained of a movie. It really bugs me that they don't stay true to their roots, to the stuff that everyone loved originally. Which is why I like Breaking Bad so much...start to finish, just a solid, magnificent job all around. But then you have Lost, where the first two seasons were the bomb dot com, and then it quickly went downhill from there.
So yes Disney, I will give you my money because I am a fish in your barrel and you have the Star Wars bullet, but that doesn't mean I have to be happy about it![]()
Pretty much nailed it there.Complaints:
1. Leia floating through space like Mary Poppins threw me out of the movie.
2. Killing Luke was a dumb move, imo. I think he's very talented & would have loved to see him in more episodes.
3. The movie was too flippant. It was funny when Luke threw the lightsaber over his shoulder, but they never nailed down any serious parts. Even Yoda's appearance was pretty lame.
4. They killed Snoke. No backstory. Just kthxbye. I felt ripped off.
5. What was the point of the whole casino scene again?
6. Didn't the Force have something to do with this movie? Like...the entire point of it?
7. Didn't really get into the music, like at the end around Snoke & all that. The music of the originals is literally what made the movie. Without the music, it would simply not be Star Wars.
I mean, I'll watch every single Star Wars movie that comes out, until the end of time. But I felt like this one completely missed the point. The Force Awakens was a rehash of the first three movies, but I felt like it had promise - the visuals were great, the story was fun, they threw some Force stuff in, they threw some lightsaber stuff in - whereas The Last Jedi just felt like a space movie. It was pretty. It was entertaining. But to me, the whole point of Star Wars is that you're going on an adventure with "the crew", in space, that results in you wanting to FEEL the Force and use brooms as lightsabers after you walk out of the movie theater.
The Last Jedi was just kind of a shrug.
That's it exactly, you've nailed it!
I'm waiting for Solo to hit the $5 theater because while I do want to see it on the big screen, I'm afraid it's going to go the Rogue One or Last Jedi route & just be kind of a cool space movie instead of a part of the SW universe.
tbh, I really wish they had followed the books. There were so many amazing books written in the expanded universe, like just some really incredible, top-notch stuff (along with some pretty mediocre stuff, but when the stories were good, they were good), and they could have pumped out a movie every month until the end of time based on those novels & made trillions because every single Star Wars nerd on the planet would have gone to see them. Huge missed opportunity, imo. Although I understand they're building it up as a Disney franchises & for theme parks & wanted control of new stories & whatnot, but still...so much great content that would have been just absolutely fabulous to make into high-quality films. I would love to see something like Solo directed by Taratino, the next full-on SW movie directed by Nolan, the Jedi kids movie with training by Luke directed by Spielberg, etc.
I have the same problem with the new Star Trek movies. I really enjoyed all three of them (well, maybe not the weird dirtbike scene from the last one, that kind of jumped the shark for me lol) as really super fun space movies, but they were not 'Star Trek' movies...Star Trek is more about thinking & figuring out how to handle situations than action, something a little bit meaty to think about & wrap your mind around. Like when the Borg queen gives Data skin, or when they find the planet with the hackey-sack-playing kids who came from an advanced space-faring society that had already bypassed our Trekkie team. Just another good movie, rather than a good Star Trek movie, if that makes sense.
I was really hoping with TFW that they would launch off the rehash (which was fun, don't get me wrong) & go on a Force-fueled adventure, but it simply hasn't happened. They missed the boat on the right elements for keeping it fun. Same deal with Transformers. First movie? Loads of fun! Had the transforming sound & a good story etc. The fifth one, the Last Knight? One of the dumbest movies I've ever seen. They finally fixed the faces on the robots & made it so you could tell them apart, and it was just beyond lame & scatterbrained of a movie. It really bugs me that they don't stay true to their roots, to the stuff that everyone loved originally. Which is why I like Breaking Bad so much...start to finish, just a solid, magnificent job all around. But then you have Lost, where the first two seasons were the bomb dot com, and then it quickly went downhill from there.
So yes Disney, I will give you my money because I am a fish in your barrel and you have the Star Wars bullet, but that doesn't mean I have to be happy about it![]()
If you happened to get the physical copy, there was a special feature which was the movie with music-only. It's pretty great.
I hear ya. I am hopeful that they hear the many people asking for this feature.My only real complaint about Netflix is the lack of alternate audio, like commentaries and such.
I thought I remember them being "released" and dropping like WW II bombs out of a bomber. Maybe they were pushed, if so then yeah that does make sense. Well I'll rewatch it soon and find out I guess.
Star Wars lost me with that piece of crap The Force Awakens. Have not had any interest in the series since then. Still enjoy the originals though.
This almost felt like it was written by some sort of movie writing AI 10 years from now.
those are trash, but trash that makes senseWait, what about the prequels?
I'd rather watch a Jar Jar Binks origin movie than sit through that train wreak again.
This almost felt like it was written by some sort of movie writing AI 10 years from now.
If you haven't seen it yet, check out the Phantom Edit. They cut Jar Jar out of the prequels...turns out the movies are actually pretty good!
nothing about them is, in any way, watchable.
