The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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HumblePie

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HumblePie not understanding how burden of proof works explains everything

I haven't brought up the merits of any claims or statements regarding the allegations. Don't give a shit about them. As I said, I was pointing out the hypocrisy of posters here willing to demonize Tara over past lies she does and call to her character, but not do the same for Joe. I guess what is good for the goose isn't for the gander?
 

mect

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While I don't find her accusations credible, it is troubling to me to see the level of character assassination democrats are engaging in. Incredible damage is being done to future victims of sexual assault who will be afraid to come forward due to this case. Assuming her accusations are completely unfounded, then she shares some of that blame. But so do her attackers. It is possible to be skeptical of her claims while still being respectful. Not because she necessarily deserves respect, but because victims of sexual assault deserve respect when they share their experiences.
 

HumblePie

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Brett Kavanaugh thought the evidence against him was so compelling it was preferable to perjure himself before Congress. I happen to agree with him!

Brett Kavanaugh perjured? I am sure some prosecutor would like to know your proof here. Burden of proof on you the accuser!
 

fskimospy

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While I don't find her accusations credible, it is troubling to me to see the level of character assassination democrats are engaging in. Incredible damage is being done to future victims of sexual assault who will be afraid to come forward due to this case. Assuming her accusations are completely unfounded, then she shares some of that blame. But so do her attackers. It is possible to be skeptical of her claims while still being respectful. Not because she necessarily deserves respect, but because victims of sexual assault deserve respect when they share their experiences.
Considering her claim rests entirely on her credibility and she clearly has credibility issues why is it character assassination to point them out?
 

dank69

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Brett Kavanaugh perjured? I am sure some prosecutor would like to know your proof here. Burden of proof on you the accuser!
Yes that is how this works and notice he provided what you asked for, you fucking clown.
 

fskimospy

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Also against the forum rules which he continually breaks and gets away with. No name calling allowed and yet all he resorts to when losing an argument is name calling.
Definitely more posts for you to report to get me banned! What’s the holdup?
 

ivwshane

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I certainly did. Not my fault you can't understand the example. Shall I give an example of one of Joe's many lies of the past? Lets start when he first ran for office and claimed he was top of his law class with awards. He was no where near the top and had no such awards. The list of lies from him go on. Does he still beg for money to run for office while having a history of being a liar? Sure does. That answers your question about him grifting for money.

I called out the deflection because it is a deflection to what I said. I pointed out people are so willing to judge Tara in a bad light on this thread because she lied in her past, but aren't willing to put that same judgement standard on Joe's longer history of lying. I don't give a shit about the claims made by either in this thread. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of people willing to condemn one person for their lies but not another. To note, I am not sticking up for Tara or her lies. She is a mess. I am pointing out hypocrisy. Don't like it? Don't be a hypocrite.

So your claim is that Biden lied about his education in order to get money? Because my request was for you to show me an example of Biden lying for money, aka grifting. Instead what you showed me was Biden lying but a fact check of your claim shows that Biden made that claim while taking offense to a question/claim posed to him at a campaign stop. You then made the leap that he was doing so to make money, something you have yet to prove.


So what we have here is a failure by you to comprehend posts that are directed at you.

That’s ok though as I was just curious if your claim of hypocrisy was coming from some knowledge of Biden as a grifter or you just not understanding the situation.

It appears it’s the latter as you seem to think Biden’s denial was a factor for people here in deciding who to believe.

That’s ok too but only because you haven’t bothered following this thread and you clearly haven’t seen the back and forth of the evidence presented and discredited with reade’s character being the final straw.
 

ivwshane

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While I don't find her accusations credible, it is troubling to me to see the level of character assassination democrats are engaging in. Incredible damage is being done to future victims of sexual assault who will be afraid to come forward due to this case. Assuming her accusations are completely unfounded, then she shares some of that blame. But so do her attackers. It is possible to be skeptical of her claims while still being respectful. Not because she necessarily deserves respect, but because victims of sexual assault deserve respect when they share their experiences.

Have you followed this entire thread?
 

fskimospy

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Tara is an eyewitness to her claim as well is she not? Two can play this game. Its still he said she said. You don't seem to get it.

Multiple people have said Kavanaugh was not truthful, not just that one. This is what evidence is, although it explains a lot that you don’t know this.

Had multiple people said they saw Biden assault Reade like multiple people said Kavanaugh lied it would be very good reason to believe her accusations are true. Instead, all testimony about her description of her interactions with Biden have been disputed by those present at the time.
 

HumblePie

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So your claim is that Biden lied about his education in order to get money? Because my request was for you to show me an example of Biden lying for money, aka grifting. Instead what you showed me was Biden lying but a fact check of your claim shows that Biden made that claim while taking offense to a question/claim posed to him at a campaign stop. You then made the leap that he was doing so to make money, something you have yet to prove.


So what we have here is a failure by you to comprehend posts that are directed at you.

That’s ok though as I was just curious if your claim of hypocrisy was coming from some knowledge of Biden as a grifter or you just not understanding the situation.

It appears it’s the latter as you seem to think Biden’s denial was a factor for people here in deciding who to believe.

That’s ok too but only because you haven’t bothered following this thread and you clearly haven’t seen the back and forth of the evidence presented and discredited with reade’s character being the final straw.


Holy crap. You don't seem to understand the hypocrisy here. I understand the posts fine, but it is going over your head. The fact that Joe Biden LIES and is a politician that asks for money makes him a grifter. It isn't about one specific incident nor does it matter. People that donate to him are donating to a known liar. Joe presents himself as "honest" but he isn't. He uses that claim and image of being honest to get money his whole life. It isn't a one time incident but a lifelong thing here. I have no idea how you can't figure something so simple out.
 

HumblePie

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Multiple people have said Kavanaugh was not truthful, not just that one. This is what evidence is, although it explains a lot that you don’t know this.

Had multiple people said they saw Biden assault Reade like multiple people said Kavanaugh lied it would be very good reason to believe her accusations are true. Instead, all testimony about her description of her interactions with Biden have been disputed by those present at the time.

Multiple people had said Joe Biden had done things previously that can be construed as sexual assaults/misconduct, not just that one. This is what evidence is, although it explains a lot that you don't know this.

(https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/joe-biden-inappropriate-touching-accusations-list.html)

Again, I don't give a shit about the claims of sexual assault, but you seem to keep wanting to argue that strawman post. I am pointing out your hypocrisy and you don't seem to like it.

Face it bruh, your reading comprehension problem at best, or outright shillery with strawman and ad hominem posts have led you to being owned here. You might come off as less dishonest if you admit your mistakes on assumptions you made about my posts and apologize. This forum knows that will never happen. You aren't capable of it are you?
 
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HumblePie

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While I don't find her accusations credible, it is troubling to me to see the level of character assassination democrats are engaging in. Incredible damage is being done to future victims of sexual assault who will be afraid to come forward due to this case. Assuming her accusations are completely unfounded, then she shares some of that blame. But so do her attackers. It is possible to be skeptical of her claims while still being respectful. Not because she necessarily deserves respect, but because victims of sexual assault deserve respect when they share their experiences.

Someone else gets what I was saying!
 

ivwshane

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Holy crap. You don't seem to understand the hypocrisy here. I understand the posts fine, but it is going over your head. The fact that Joe Biden LIES and is a politician that asks for money makes him a grifter. It isn't about one specific incident nor does it matter. People that donate to him are donating to a known liar. Joe presents himself as "honest" but he isn't. He uses that claim and image of being honest to get money his whole life. It isn't a one time incident but a lifelong thing here. I have no idea how you can't figure something so simple out.

Like I said reading comprehension seems to be an issue with you. I’ll repeat what I said but I don’t have a lot of hope for you: Biden wasn’t a factor in determining if these claims were legitimate.
 

dank69

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Multiple people had said Joe Biden had previous sexual assaults, not just that one. This is what evidence is, although it explains a lot that you don't know this.

(https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/joe-biden-inappropriate-touching-accusations-list.html)

Again, I don't give a shit about the claims of sexual assault, but you seem to keep wanting to argue that strawman post. I am pointing out your hypocrisy and you don't seem to like it.
This is false. You are conflating sexual assault with sexual harassment. And by sexual harassment, they mean putting his hands on their shoulders and whispering in their ear.
 

fskimospy

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Multiple people had said Joe Biden had previous sexual assaults, not just that one. This is what evidence is, although it explains a lot that you don't know this.

(https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/joe-biden-inappropriate-touching-accusations-list.html)

Again, I don't give a shit about the claims of sexual assault, but you seem to keep wanting to argue that strawman post. I am pointing out your hypocrisy and you don't seem to like it.
This is false, none of those individuals accused Biden of sexual assault. If you think otherwise please quote the exact passage from your link that you think describes a sexual assault.

Otherwise can you explain why did you feel it was necessary to lie about what other people have claimed about Biden? Or were you just too dumb to read your own link?