The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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fskimospy

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No, for the most part the “media” did its job and properly vetted her and her claims. Fox News on the other hand...
I don’t agree. The media initially did its job by not publicizing a non-credible accusation. Once it was accused of bias for doing this they abandoned their journalistic integrity.
 
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ivwshane

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And by vetting her claim, you mean exhaustively investigating aspects of her life unrelated to her claim

No that’s not what I mean but it’s not like you care. In fact I even posted a link to a journalist and her story regarding reade.
 

HumblePie

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Coming in late to this and it seems weird that people would judge Tara because she has lied in the past but believe Joe like he hasn't? They are both scummy to me for their past.
 

fskimospy

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And by vetting her claim, you mean exhaustively investigating aspects of her life unrelated to her claim
Or put another way, when confronted with a claim that rested entirely on someone’s credibility they investigated other claims she had made to see if they were credible because this is common sense.

It is both funny and sad that when confronted with the fact that the person you are defending is a lifelong fabulist you don’t change your mind, you get mad at people for telling you about it.
 

fskimospy

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Coming in late to this and it seems weird that people would judge Tara because she has lied in the past but believe Joe like he hasn't? They are both scummy to me for their past.
There is no believing or not believing Biden. The burden of proof is on the accuser and the accuser has a history of making things up.
 
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Jhhnn

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And by vetting her claim, you mean exhaustively investigating aspects of her life unrelated to her claim

There was that stealth edit of her Medium piece establishing her mendacity from the start. Just a minor thing, really.
 

eelw

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Two peas in a pod. Again only reason they haven’t been added to the ignore list is to see them rage in November
 

HumblePie

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There is no believing or not believing Biden. The burden of proof is on the accuser and the accuser has a history of making things up.

Did I go into legal debate side of things with my post? Nope, but nice strawman. I stated people judging the situation and behaviors I am reading here. But keep on with your strawmans.
 

fskimospy

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Did I go into legal debate side of things with my post? Nope, but nice strawman. I stated people judging the situation and behaviors I am reading here. But keep on with your strawmans.

My post does not mention the law, dummy. That principle is true for everything in life.

You should really stop accusing people of logical fallacies you do not understand.
 

ivwshane

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Did I go into legal debate side of things with my post? Nope, but nice strawman. I stated people judging the situation and behaviors I am reading here. But keep on with your strawmans.

Please show me an example of Biden grifting anyone or lying for money.
 

HumblePie

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My post does not mention the law, dummy. That principle is true for everything in life.

You should really stop accusing people of logical fallacies you do not understand.

No, burden of proof is a legal context. Judging someone's character has no "burden of proof" for anything in life. It's literally a personal judgement. People here are so quick to judge Tara but not Joe. Right now it is literally a he said she said thing going on. Testaments to character for a specific situation outside a court of law is what matters to the public in a he said she said situation. You are still bringing up logical fallacies and I just showed it again.
 

fskimospy

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No, burden of proof is a legal context. Judging someone's character has no "burden of proof" for anything in life. It's literally a personal judgement. People here are so quick to judge Tara but not Joe. You are still bringing up logical fallacies and I just showed it again.
False. Burden of proof exists in all discussions where a claim is made. It’s a fundamental part of informed debate.
 

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False. Burden of proof exists in all discussions where a claim is made. It’s a fundamental part of informed debate.

Nope. Court of opinion doesn't care. Try again, thanks for playing! We are talking about character for credibility here but nice try on strawman and shifting the goal posts once again.
 

ivwshane

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Nice deflection but I'll take the bait.

Does Joe run a campaign that begs for money? Check
Is he a lying politician that pretends to be honest? Check

You really have a poor understanding of logical fallacies.

I asked for examples, you didn’t give one, you simply made assumptions and posted that as fact.

Would you like to try again?
 

fskimospy

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Nope. Court of opinion doesn't care. Try again, thanks for playing! We are talking about character for credibility here but nice try on strawman and shifting the goal posts once again.
You don’t understand how logical fallacies work.

Great though, since there is no burden of proof on someone making an accusation you raped and murdered a child. Why did you do this?
 

HomerJS

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The Democrats are the ones who chose to opportunistically politicize #metoo. Full stop.

It is clear to me who is on the wrong side of this issue, but I can’t stop you from carrying water for hypocrites.
Democrats are hypocrites? Tell it to Sen Al Frankin
 

HumblePie

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You really aren’t good with pointing or logical fallacies.

I asked for examples, you didn’t give one, you simply made assumptions and posted that as fact.

Would you like to try again?

I certainly did. Not my fault you can't understand the example. Shall I give an example of one of Joe's many lies of the past? Lets start when he first ran for office and claimed he was top of his law class with awards. He was no where near the top and had no such awards. The list of lies from him go on. Does he still beg for money to run for office while having a history of being a liar? Sure does. That answers your question about him grifting for money.

I called out the deflection because it is a deflection to what I said. I pointed out people are so willing to judge Tara in a bad light on this thread because she lied in her past, but aren't willing to put that same judgement standard on Joe's longer history of lying. I don't give a shit about the claims made by either in this thread. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of people willing to condemn one person for their lies but not another. To note, I am not sticking up for Tara or her lies. She is a mess. I am pointing out hypocrisy. Don't like it? Don't be a hypocrite.