The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

[Starbuck1975]

I have made many wrong statements on here and when I do I try my best to acknowledge them. I hope you do the same.

Do, or do not. There is no try.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Someone makes up a rape allegation against him, but she's the real victim because he said women should be believed!!!!

Come on man.

Hence the need for due process. Reade is not accusing Biden of rape but sexual assault.

The allegations against Biden would have no merit were it not for the corroborating accounts, yet Democrats demanded an investigation of Kavanaugh with far less evidence because it was politically opportunistic. I also find it ironic and interesting that in stepping forward as an accuser, with no political motive to do so, Democrats are using the standard playbook of attacking her character.

Reade’s lawyers are requesting access to records. An election is a job interview. If those requests turn up empty, voters will decide the outcome.

If, however, documentation of her complaint does surface, what will be the next excuse?

 

[eelw]

But what due process? She’s not filing a criminal charge. She’s not suing him. He’s running for a elected position. So no nomination process. So she went to the media. The media has handled the matter. Just because you didn’t like the outcome doesn’t mean it wasn’t responsibly reviewed.

 

[fskimospy]

Hence the need for due process. Reade is not accusing Biden of rape but sexual assault.

Digital penetration is rape according to the DOJ. She has accused Biden of rape.

The allegations against Biden would have no merit were it not for the corroborating accounts, yet Democrats demanded an investigation of Kavanaugh with far less evidence because it was politically opportunistic. I also find it ironic and interesting that in stepping forward as an accuser, with no political motive to do so, Democrats are using the standard playbook of attacking her character.

Those corroborating accounts have changed as have her claims. In addition, every single one is based purely on Reade telling them things. To note that large numbers of people throughout her entire life describe her as a constant liar is highly relevant.

Biden has similarly demanded an investigation, as have all Democrats. What’s funny is the results that have shown Reade to be a lifelong liar are the results of exactly the investigation you say you want. You’re just mad because the investigation didn’t come out the way you wanted.

Reade’s lawyers are requesting access to records. An election is a job interview. If those requests turn up empty, voters will decide the outcome.

Reade said she had her employment records, was she lying?

As for the rest, Biden has similarly called for their release.

If, however, documentation of her complaint does surface, what will be the next excuse?

Remember she already changed her story to say that now the complaint won’t discuss her allegations, haha.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

IDK who need to hear this but Christine Blasey Ford was as much a political op levied against Democrats by TOC as Tara Reade. Republicans have already made it known sexual assault isn't disqualifying to their leaders, so they were unconcerned about litigating those vague accusations from the distant past because it meant there was no oxygen left to look critically at Kavanaugh's finances, and now they can further weaponize the MeToo movement with the predictable behaviors of their drones like Starbuck1975.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

IDK who need to hear this but Christine Blasey Ford was as much a political op levied against Democrats by TOC as Tara Reade. Republicans have already made it known sexual assault isn't disqualifying to their leaders, so they were unconcerned about litigating those vague accusations from the distant past because it meant there was no oxygen left to look critically at Kavanaugh's finances, and now they can further weaponize the MeToo movement with the predictable behaviors of their drones like Starbuck1975.

It's the same pattern with Trump, FYI. Set the Democrats hair on fire with sex scandals that Republicans don't actually care about so everybody is talking about what a meanie Trump is and not about who owns him.

 

[pauldun170]

Anyone else here find it sad that Ford and Reade are being compared like some idiots are trying to do?
How dense do you have to be and directly compare the 2?

Is the issue that people can't use a basic search engine to first review the Ford case?
Is that it?

For the idiots bring up Ford to defend their narrative on Reade...for fucks sake use basic common sense and standards.

92 pages...

 

[Jhhnn]

Anyone else here find it sad that Ford and Reade are being compared like some idiots are trying to do?
How dense do you have to be and directly compare the 2?

Is the issue that people can't use a basic search engine to first review the Ford case?
Is that it?

For the idiots bring up Ford to defend their narrative on Reade...for fucks sake use basic common sense and standards.

92 pages...

They're not dense. They're dishonest.

 

[sandorski]

IDK who need to hear this but Christine Blasey Ford was as much a political op levied against Democrats by TOC as Tara Reade. Republicans have already made it known sexual assault isn't disqualifying to their leaders, so they were unconcerned about litigating those vague accusations from the distant past because it meant there was no oxygen left to look critically at Kavanaugh's finances, and now they can further weaponize the MeToo movement with the predictable behaviors of their drones like Starbuck1975.

This presumes a GOP Conspiracy. It's not impossible, but requires more than just a Statement that it is true.

 

[sandorski]

Anyone else here find it sad that Ford and Reade are being compared like some idiots are trying to do?
How dense do you have to be and directly compare the 2?

Is the issue that people can't use a basic search engine to first review the Ford case?
Is that it?

For the idiots bring up Ford to defend their narrative on Reade...for fucks sake use basic common sense and standards.

92 pages...

They're not dense. They're dishonest.

It is neither Sad nor Dishonest. A Standard was set, some attempted to follow it, some ignored it.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

This presumes a GOP Conspiracy. It's not impossible, but requires more than just a Statement that it is true.

Who gives a flying fuck what *you* think?

 

[HomerJS]

I look forward to the day when you hold yourself to the standard you’ve just advocated for.

Just curious since you are still on board with her having 3 version of the story. how many are too much even for you?

Four?
Eight?
Twelve?
Twenty?

Stop me when we reach your number.

 

[fskimospy]

This presumes a GOP Conspiracy. It's not impossible, but requires more than just a Statement that it is true.

Well Christine O’Donnell was a clumsy attempt at a political hit on by the GOP so it’s certainly not impossible. From what I’ve seen though it just looks like a sad and pathetic lady who wanted attention.

 

[Jhhnn]

Hence the need for due process. Reade is not accusing Biden of rape but sexual assault.

The allegations against Biden would have no merit were it not for the corroborating accounts, yet Democrats demanded an investigation of Kavanaugh with far less evidence because it was politically opportunistic. I also find it ironic and interesting that in stepping forward as an accuser, with no political motive to do so, Democrats are using the standard playbook of attacking her character.

Reade’s lawyers are requesting access to records. An election is a job interview. If those requests turn up empty, voters will decide the outcome.

If, however, documentation of her complaint does surface, what will be the next excuse?

And now the bothsides & hypotheticals. So dishonest. I mean, you know, as if she has a fucking shred of credibility. No rational person would grant her that.

She rewrote her own history in order to create the new & utterly preposterous story of sexual misconduct. Her brother changed his story to corroborate hers... after he talked to Tara. Her long ago neighbor kinda remembers Tara saying something about it... after Tara helped her refresh her memory from way back when. Reade claims to have her employment records from the time, so where are they? She claims to have filed a complaint, no, wait... a request for counseling... that doesn't confirm the allegation, anyway. It's hers for the asking, so where is it? She volunteered to take a polygraph. What happened with that? And now she has the chutzpah to demand access to 1800 cartons & 415 gigs of information because reasons? Really?

The 3 things you should know about Joe Biden's Senate papers at the University of Delaware

The files, which the university is still curating nearly a decade later, will be held under seal for two years after Mr Biden retires from 'public life'

www.independent.co.uk

She's been dishonest throughout the whole thing. It stinks to High Heaven, and you know it.

 

[Jhhnn]

It is neither Sad nor Dishonest. A Standard was set, some attempted to follow it, some ignored it.

"You're a hypocrite!" doesn't lend any credibility to Reade's accusation.

 

[sandorski]

Who gives a flying fuck what *you* think?

Ah ya, what the fuck is up your ass?

 

[sandorski]

"You're a hypocrite!" doesn't lend any credibility to Reade's accusation.

True, however, it is still worth pointing out. Finding the truth of a matter requires sober thought and a minimization of fallacious argumentation.

 

[woolfe9998]

Well Christine O’Donnell was a clumsy attempt at a political hit on by the GOP so it’s certainly not impossible. From what I’ve seen though it just looks like a sad and pathetic lady who wanted attention.

Attention, yes, very likely. But don't overlook the recurrent theme of virtually all past accounts of her life and behavior: she needs money and seemingly always has. This may not be a payoff. It may just be that she means to write a book in the near future. It's hard to know at this point.

 

[woolfe9998]

It is neither Sad nor Dishonest. A Standard was set, some attempted to follow it, some ignored it.

No, a standard was not set. Neither Kristen Gillibrand nor a small handful of progressive me too advocates had any authority to unilaterally set a standard for the entire left. This notion that you always believe accusations of sexual assault is extreme and completely idiotic. It was idiotic then and it's idiotic now. As is the idea that any one member of a group can set a standard for everyone in that group.

You have any idea how annoying it is to be held to a standard that someone else purportedly set?

 

[darkswordsman17]

Anyone else here find it sad that Ford and Reade are being compared like some idiots are trying to do?
How dense do you have to be and directly compare the 2?

Is the issue that people can't use a basic search engine to first review the Ford case?
Is that it?

For the idiots bring up Ford to defend their narrative on Reade...for fucks sake use basic common sense and standards.

92 pages...

I don't get it either, and the people saying there's as much/more corroboration for Reade than Ford are spreading lies and don't seem to realize or care that they're actually harming Ford's claims and not bolstering Reade's, as well as them bolstering the position of people that don't want to believe any sexual impropriety claims without absolute proof of a level that they wouldn't require for just about any other crime.

 

[Jhhnn]

True, however, it is still worth pointing out. Finding the truth of a matter requires sober thought and a minimization of fallacious argumentation.

In order to accept your second sentence the first sentence must be rejected. Whataboutism clouds the discussion, quite by intent. Believe women? Sure. When they're believable. Tara isn't that, at all.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Ah ya, what the fuck is up your ass?

Useful idiots carrying water for organized crime.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Seems relevant

What kind of person makes false rape accusations?

Everything we think we know about false accusers is wrong.

qz.com

 

[Starbuck1975]

Digital penetration is rape according to the DOJ. She has accused Biden of rape.

Then I was incorrect. The media has been explicitly categorizing the charges as assault and not rape.

Those corroborating accounts have changed as have her claims. In addition, every single one is based purely on Reade telling them things.

How is that any different than Dr. Ford?

To note that large numbers of people throughout her entire life describe her as a constant liar is highly relevant.

She has a troubled past and has had money issues with landlords, because landlords are well known to be empathetic and good judges of character.

Biden has similarly demanded an investigation, as have all Democrats. What’s funny is the results that have shown Reade to be a lifelong liar are the results of exactly the investigation you say you want. You’re just mad because the investigation didn’t come out the way you wanted.

Who conducted said investigation? Due to the tangled web of obstacles that prevents accountability and transparency, her lawyers can’t even get access to documents that should be in the public domain.

Reade said she had her employment records, was she lying?

Then she needs to produce them.

Remember she already changed her story to say that now the complaint won’t discuss her allegations, haha.

Having worker in a hostile work environment in which I had no power, I could easily see how this is possible.

 

[Jhhnn]

Who conducted said investigation? Due to the tangled web of obstacles that prevents accountability and transparency, her lawyers can’t even get access to documents that should be in the public domain.

As if access would somehow change her obvious dishonesty. It all comes back around to one of the most basic principles of propaganda- the Big Lie-

All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.

It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.