The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

[dank69]

Are you suggesting women’s groups and the media haven’t rallied to protect Reade and afford her the benefit of the doubt the way they did Dr. Ford? Please.

What point are you trying to make here? I am pretty sure that yes, some groups have rallied around Reade. So What?

 

[Starbuck1975]

What point are you trying to make here? I am pretty sure that yes, some groups have rallied around Reade. So What?

The point is that despite the obvious and apparent similarities between the credibility of the accusations made by Dr. Ford and Reade, each were treated and approached in a politically partisan way.

Democrats have not afforded to Reade the standard they advocated for Dr. Ford. They are hypocrites.

Republicans are willing to believe Reade when they wouldn’t believe Dr. Ford. They are hypocrites.

 

[soundforbjt]

The point is that despite the obvious and apparent similarities between the credibility of the accusations made by Dr. Ford and Reade, each were treated and approached in a politically partisan way.

Democrats have not afforded to Reade the standard they advocated for Dr. Ford. They are hypocrites.

Republicans are willing to believe Reade when they wouldn’t believe Dr. Ford. They are hypocrites.

Maybe because you shouldn't be comparing Ford & Reade and the reaction differences, since it's more like Reade vs one of Trump's many accusers. I understand why conservatives want to compare Biden & Kavanaugh accusers as the same thing, but they're not even close.

 

[dank69]

The point is that despite the obvious and apparent similarities between the credibility of the accusations made by Dr. Ford and Reade, each were treated and approached in a politically partisan way.

Democrats have not afforded to Reade the standard they advocated for Dr. Ford. They are hypocrites.

Republicans are willing to believe Reade when they wouldn’t believe Dr. Ford. They are hypocrites.

Conveniently ignoring the inconsistencies between many of Reade's statements when there were no inconsistencies with any of Ford's statements. Maybe, just maybe, you are partisan.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Conveniently ignoring the inconsistencies between many of Reade's statements when there were no inconsistencies with any of Ford's statements. Maybe, just maybe, you are partisan.

Conveniently ignoring the people who have come forward to validate the consistency of Reade’s accusations, and the Larry King caller that is most likely Reade’s mother. Maybe, just maybe, you are partisan.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Maybe because you shouldn't be comparing Ford & Reade and the reaction differences, since it's more like Reade vs one of Trump's many accusers. I understand why conservatives want to compare Biden & Kavanaugh accusers as the same thing, but they're not even close.

Why can’t we compare Trump and Biden and Kavanaugh, as the contrast between all three makes the hypocrisy quite evident.

The GOP has no moral high ground over Biden due to Trump

The Democrats have no defensive position for Biden given the standard they advocated during the Kavanaugh hearings.

 

[dank69]

Conveniently ignoring the people who have come forward to validate the consistency of Reade’s accusations, and the Larry King caller that is most likely Reade’s mother. Maybe, just maybe, you are partisan.

I'm not ignoring any of that. You are comparing Reade to Ford, leaving out that Reade is on the record with many contradictory statements while Ford is not. Both have people corroborating their stories. The argument could be made that Ford has better corroboration but I am not making that argument because it is not needed. Reade is doing just fine disproving her allegations all on her own.

 

[fskimospy]

Conveniently ignoring the people who have come forward to validate the consistency of Reade’s accusations, and the Larry King caller that is most likely Reade’s mother. Maybe, just maybe, you are partisan.

Guys, why aren't you paying more attention to the unnamed caller complaining about an unnamed official about an unspecified problem?

More importantly, assuming it was Reade's mother and Reade 'accurately' described her account to her, it means her position was that the chairman of the armed services committee had recently raped her daughter but they decided they:

1) had no recourse despite Bob Packwood being crucified around this same time for sexual harassment complaints, etc., clearly showing their effectiveness and

2) Reade had far too much respect for her rapist to damage him in that way.

lol. If anything the call undercuts her current allegations as while that's not impossible that's... yeahhhhhhh.

 

[Jhhnn]

No it hasn’t. This whole “effort” is holding Biden to the standard he and other Democrats advocated for. Guess you don’t like the taste.

So, that's whataboutism, right?

 

[VRAMdemon]

I'm guessing that, with the Secretary of the Senate saying that she won't release any personnel records, Reade wishes she waited another day or two before admitting that she never actually filled a report, just an intake form, and never mentioned sexual assault or harassment. We could have pretended that they're the hidden smoking gun instead of knowing they're a nothingburger.

She has more versions of her story than Ben & Jerrys has varieties. They should be published in a fiction collection called "The Collected Works of Tara Reade".

 

[soundforbjt]

She has more versions of her story than Ben & Jerrys has varieties. They should be published in a fiction collection called "The Collected Works of Tara Reade".

Trump could write her thoughts during the incident..."He moved on me like a bitch...he grabbed me by the pussy...you know when they're famous you let them do that".

 

[mopardude87]

I heard about this thing recently involving what happened back in 1993, i asked my friend who mentioned it what would have happened if she came forward then with this? His career and everything may have been over and he wouldn't even be sitting where he is today?

I get it sometimes that victims of rape and whatever don't wanna come forward, i have been sorta a victim myself and it took some guts to even tell the cops about this woman during another unrelated incident hoping they would remove her from the premise. Cause i am a man and got a penis, apparently men can't be raped so damn untrue. They cops did nothing and even sorta laughed about the idea of a man complaining of rape but i am in the middle of a divorce and this woman is as Cyprus Hill put it "Insane in the membrane" .

Anytime anyone does something to another person against their will, its considered rape in my eyes. Not caring what sex, religion color or what your political views are. Its simply rape.

 

[interchange]

Conveniently ignoring the people who have come forward to validate the consistency of Reade’s accusations, and the Larry King caller that is most likely Reade’s mother. Maybe, just maybe, you are partisan.

There's only one person (including Larry King call) who offered any corroboration of a sexual assault. Let's be clear on that.

Since the situations share some similarities but also significant differences, I think the interpretation of statements made by politicians is bound to be subjective. I think my position is more in the middle on that.

 

[interchange]

I heard about this thing back in 1993, i asked my friend who mentioned it what would have happened if she came forward then with this? His career and everything may have been over and he wouldn't even be sitting where he is today?

I get it sometimes that victims of rape and whatever don't wanna come forward, i have been sorta a victim myself and it took some guts to even tell the cops about this woman during another unrelated incident hoping they would remove her from the premise. Cause i am a man and got a penis, apparently men can't be raped so damn untrue. They cops did nothing and even sorta laughed about the idea of a man complaining of rape but i am in the middle of a divorce and this woman is as ICP put it "Insane in the membrane" .

Anytime anyone does something to another person against their will, its considered rape in my eyes. Not caring what sex, religion color or what your political views are. Its simple rape.

Are you saying you knew Tara Reade personally in 1993?

 

[mopardude87]

Are you saying you knew Tara Reade personally in 1993?

Nope a friend of mine told me this story recently and i asked was all. Sorry if i worded it wrong sorta working off a few hours of sleep here.

Edit: fixed thanks! Yeah that looks weird when i reread it.

 

[pauldun170]

Guys, why aren't you paying more attention to the unnamed caller complaining about an unnamed official about an unspecified problem?

Gotta be honest.
That cracked me up and now I want to go in the front yard and shake sticks at random objects

 

[pauldun170]

Gotta be honest.
That cracked me up and now I want to go in the front yard and shake sticks at random objects

Fuckit
I'm Home
It's lunch time
It's beautiful outside and I have sticks in my yard.
I'm doing it....

 

[VRAMdemon]

Trump could write her thoughts during the incident..."He moved on me like a bitch...he grabbed me by the pussy...you know when they're famous you let them do that".

Reade ...I do not believe her for many reasons. But just to be fair, to placate the "Your a partisan/politically convenient" crowd here. Ill not believe one of Trump's 25 accusers either.

 

[Homerboy]

...is ICP put it "Insane in the membrane" ...

that would be Cyprus Hill not ICP

 

[sandorski]

Maybe because you shouldn't be comparing Ford & Reade and the reaction differences, since it's more like Reade vs one of Trump's many accusers. I understand why conservatives want to compare Biden & Kavanaugh accusers as the same thing, but they're not even close.

All these weird contortions to avoid one comparison and insist on others. All similar allegations have similarities and differences. Comparing between alegations are based upon the argument(s) being made and not some arbitrary preference being foisted upon the discussion by those trying to avoid certain comparisons.

 

[mopardude87]

that would be Cyprus Hill not ICP

LOL yeah i don't exactly remember who did it i figured it was one of the two. Not exactly my kind of music either. Gonna fix it thanks!

 

[mopardude87]

Sorry not sure why it went to post over edit went to fix a post and comment on said edited post. Delete if you want mods thanks.

 

[Jhhnn]

All these weird contortions to avoid one comparison and insist on others. All similar allegations have similarities and differences. Comparing between alegations are based upon the argument(s) being made and not some arbitrary preference being foisted upon the discussion by those trying to avoid certain comparisons.

Congratulations. Your incessant whataboutism has prompted other posters to engage in some of their own. Drag 'em down to your level & beat 'em with experience.

 

[sandorski]

Congratulations. Your incessant whataboutism has prompted other posters to engage in some of their own. Drag 'em down to your level & beat 'em with experience.

How is this a response to what I wrote?

 

[Jhhnn]

How is this a response to what I wrote?

Le Whoosh...