The Intel Atom Thread

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you2

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For myself such a laptop would be pretty darn slow even with just linux and web browsing but I guess it depends on the full picture (how much you paid; how you will utlize it and such). For basic screen display I don't think the graphics will make a difference - for game playing I suspect the cpu is just too slow 'cept for the simplest games like ftl and in such a game the graphics won't make a difference.
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I know that phones/tablets with arm do quite well with games but the os has lower overhead and the gpu/cpu are not to be under-rated. I set my parents up with low end pentinum - i think something like the g3220 (not sure of the other one since it was purchased at microcenter - no electronic receipt); the g3220 is around the same speed as the n5000 (but 4 years older) and slower gpu. One big advantage is the n5000 will last a longer time on battery power (laptop); just don't expect to play cpu bound games.
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This year intel is suppose to make significant improvements to their processors gpu. Not sure if they will catch up to the snapdragon chip set but if they do and move the improvements into their low power cpu it will be more interesting.

Hi !

I've bought a laptop with the N5000 (which I've not receive yet). And I would like to know if I made the right choice. Previously, I used a laptop with an i5-520um (ULV @ 1.07Ghz, overclocked by myself @ 1.6Ghz, boost @ 2.0Ghz).

According to benchmarks, the N5000 is more powerful, but it has less functionalities.
- pcie x16 for i5 vs x6 for N5000,
- turbo boost for i5, only speestep for N5000
- i5 with Flex & Fast Memory Acess, none for N5000 etc...

So, in use, these functions would make a difference ?

My second question is about the UHD Graphics 605. Obviously, this chip has the same power than the old Nvidia GT335m. Except for the Gpixel/s.

2.4Gpixel/s for the UHD 605 and 3.6Gpixel/s for the GT335m. This difference is really important or completely insignificant ? (the question behind, is : any game that I ran with GT335m will run with UHD605 ?)

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NTMBK

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Sorry, I forgot to mention my use case... So this laptop is for office, netflix and some old games (like Prey, Fear, or 1st far cry).

Don't worry about the PCIe x16 vs x6. PCIe is used for connecting devices such as GPUs and modems to the CPU- since your new laptop does not have a separate GPU, it does not need as many PCIe connections, and having fewer connections helps make the laptop less power hungry.

When you say "Prey", I presume you mean the original Prey, not the game from 2017? You should be able to run that alright. And it should handle Office and Netflix just fine. Let us know how the laptop works out for you!
 

Eykxas

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Yes I mean the Prey of 2006.

I'll receive the laptop (a Dell 14 3482) at the end of the month. I hope it is more powerful than my old 2010's laptop (Alienware M11x R2, i5-520um, GT335m, 4gb of ram and no SSD). apparently yes, but I'm not sure.
 

jpiniero

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It'll have to be sliced and diced of course. Has 32 EUs as the top model but also 16 and 8 in the drivers. (By comparison, Gemini Lake Pentium/Celeron is 18 or 12)
 

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The product that Lakefield is going to is going to be a low volume high margin device. Like Microsoft's version of the Galaxy Fold and/or the Courier. Intel is probably getting Coreish prices for the chip too.

Plus, Lakefield's 10 nm portion might just be the cores and the GPU, and nothing else. Elkhart Lake would most likely have to be a monolithic chip.

The next-generation Atom will no longer be monolithic.
Elkhart Lake is a multi-chip package processor that includes a Tremont die and a PCH chipset.
 

IntelUser2000

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Elkhart Lake looks very promising (Gen11 Graphics). The first products are expected in Q1 2020...

You sure about the timeframe? That slide just tells us about when the eMB version will launch. Other roadmaps had it mid to Q3 this year.

That ~6 months difference seems to jive well with the Coffeelake-S version that came out in January of this year when the chip itself arrived Q2 last year.
 
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jpiniero

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The next-generation Atom will no longer be monolithic.
Elkhart Lake is a multi-chip package processor that includes a Tremont die and a PCH chipset.

Well, if the 10 nm portion is just 4C+32EU+memory controller, that wouldn't be so bad. It'd be pretty tiny, and being able to cut to 2C and 16/8 EU would mean they would get a nice amount of usable chips per wafer.
 

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Skyhawk Lake will have to wait because Gemini Lake Refresh is not canceled. Six new processors will launch in November :
The 10W (desktop) Pentium J5040, Celeron J4125, Celeron J4025 and the 6W (mobile) Pentium N5030, Celeron N4120, Celeron N4020.
 
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DrMrLordX

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I am still shaking my head over Gemini Lake Refresh. Is Intel having so much trouble with 10nm that they can't do Atom cores with it? Or is this a wafer allocation issue (Icelake-U/Y and Icelake-SP taking up all the wafers)?
 
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Bouowmx

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As long as Windows-ARM continues to be awful (expensive hardware and low software support), 14% frequency bump (2.8 to 3.2 GHz on top Pentium J) should do.

Though, the micro-server line (Atom C3000) hasn't been updated since 2017.
 

Dayman1225

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As long as Windows-ARM continues to be awful (expensive hardware and low software support), 14% frequency bump (2.8 to 3.2 GHz on top Pentium J) should do.

Though, the micro-server line (Atom C3000) hasn't been updated since 2017.
Pretty sure that’s being updated with Tremont/10nm atom. Iirc the platform is called Tanner Ridge
 

NTMBK

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How does Gemini Lake stack up to historic "big core" CPUs? Are they at Core 2 Quad performance yet?