The Intel Atom Thread

[seitur]

This 1 is € 384,-(incl.VAT) here ridiculous price really.

Wow, that's quite high.

At the Microsoft Store in Canada the 32GB model was on sale for $299 CAD [€ 192] before tax, or $338 CAD [€ 218] after 13% tax (Ontario).

Yeah. It's ridiculous. I can live with having +15-20% to price in Europe because VAT, but often prices are much higher than that.
Definately not gonna even consider any stuff whenever it looks nice or not, with price diffrence that is more than VAT amount diffrence.

In this case it should not be higher than €230-240. €384 is just crazy.

PS. Also 32GB is too low for Windows imo.

 

[cbn]

Here is the second consumer Bay Trail-D Mini-ITX board to show up in retail:

BIOSTAR J1800NH

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138403

 

[bullzz]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/surface-mini-tablets-windows-phone-windows-rt,26040.html

surface mini with bay trail?

 

[Nothingness]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/surface-mini-tablets-windows-phone-windows-rt,26040.html

surface mini with bay trail?

If this runs an OS derived from WP and RT, then it's likely to be ARM-based.

OTOH the news seems to come from Digitimes, so...

 

[Sweepr]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/surface-mini-tablets-windows-phone-windows-rt,26040.html

surface mini with bay trail?

An 8'' Surface with full Windows 8.1 x64, Bay Trail-T, 1080p IPS screen and proper stylus support would be a great little device.

 

[bullzz]

1080p seems too high for a bay trail device. a cherry trail refresh wud be much better

 

[monstercameron]

1080p seems too high for a bay trail device. a cherry trail refresh wud be much better

the lenovo 8 incher had a 1080p screen

 

[VirtualLarry]

Here is the second consumer Bay Trail-D Mini-ITX board to show up in retail:

BIOSTAR J1800NH

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138403

How is the performance of a dual-core Bay Trail-D CPU, as compared to an AMD C-70 APU, and an Intel Celeron 1037U board? Because I'm looking to upgrade my HTPC, which is currently a Foxconn NanoPC with a C-70, and was looking at the Biostar 1037U ITX board, which is incidentally the same price as that Bay Trail-D dual-core board.

 

[Sweepr]

Intel Shows Off OpenGL ES 3.1 Android Games on Bay Trail

Intel's gaming efforts take many shapes, from releasing performance analysis tools for developers to pushing for more ultrabook- and touch-friendly PC titles. Perhaps more excitingly, Huddy talked at length about OpenGL ES 3.1, which was announced earlier in the week. That API takes OpenGL ES "very close to parity with DirectX 11," Huddy said, and it's been "fully supported" from "day one" on Bay Trail.

In fact, Huddy asserted Intel is in a "leadership position" when it comes to the new API. He boasted that Intel had more OpenGL ES 3.1 demos than any of its competitors on the GDC show floor. The Intel demos showed cloth simulation, HDR bloom, deferred shading with antialiasing, and tessellation. (Tessellation isn't officially part of the OpenGL ES 3.1 spec, but Intel offers an extension pack that enables it. The same goes for deferred shading, although, to my knowledge, that wasn't demoed.)

Richard Kettlewell from Codemasters then took Huddy's place behind the podium. He said Codemasters is working on a mobile version of its GRID racing engine. The mobile engine is, of course, snazzed up with OpenGL ES 3.1 effects, and it runs on Intel's Bay Trail processors. Kettlewell demoed the engine in a Mario Kart-style racing game running on a Bay Trail tablet based on Android.

[...] Now, Android tablets based on Bay Trail aren't out yet. I was told they're coming in April. OpenGL ES 3.1 support isn't quite ready yet on that platform, anyhow. Validation still needs to take place (presumably with Khronos, the stewards of the OpenGL spec), and Google still needs to release an Android update to enable support.

http://techreport.com/news/26208/intel-talks-mobile-gaming-opengl-es-3-1-on-bay-trail

 

[monstercameron]

How is the performance of a dual-core Bay Trail-D CPU, as compared to an AMD C-70 APU, and an Intel Celeron 1037U board? Because I'm looking to upgrade my HTPC, which is currently a Foxconn NanoPC with a C-70, and was looking at the Biostar 1037U ITX board, which is incidentally the same price as that Bay Trail-D dual-core board.

baytrail-D should be faster than the c-70 but not the celeron.
I dont know how well the bsds do on baytrail though...

 

[cbn]

How is the performance of a dual-core Bay Trail-D CPU, as compared to an AMD C-70 APU, and an Intel Celeron 1037U board? .

Some passmark scores I found:

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+C-70+APU&id=1817

(C70=594)

http://www.passmark.com/cpubenchmark/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+J1800+@+2.41GHz&id=2167

(J1800=1194)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+1037U+@+1.80GHz

(1037U=1750)

That is a pretty large difference! (1037U is almost triple the C70 score and the J1800 is a hair greater than double the C70 score.)

 

[cbn]

Two of the Asrock Bay Trail Mainboards finally made it on the website:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/D1800M/

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Q1900M/

Both are Micro-ATX with PCI-E x16 and two PCI-E x1, along with two SATA ports. Video out handled by HDMI, VGA and DVI.

.....but the most interesting part of these boards is that they handle standard voltage 240 pin DIMMs. (That is a first for a Bay Trail desktop board. Normally they come with DDR3L SO-DIMM slots.)

 

[cbn]

Another Bay Trail Desktop PC, the ECS LIVA Mini PC:

http://www.fanlesstech.com/2014/03/ecs-liva-mini-pc.html

It has a Bay Trail-M processor, 2GB soldered on RAM, 32GB eMMC, HDMI and VGA, Gigabit Ethernet, IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n and Bluetooth 4.0. It is fanless, of course too.

 

[Sweepr]

Teclast X98 3G - First 64-bit Intel Bay Trail Android Tablet Officaly Released

At a conference on March 25 in Beijing, Teclast (台&#30005 officially announced their new Intel-cased Tablet X-series and the first 64-bit Intel BayTrail Android Tablet X98 3G pricing at 1299 CNY (209USD).

Teclast X98 3G uses the world's most advanced 22nm process technology 64-bit architecture BayTrail-T (Z3740D?) processor, clocked at 1.83GHz, equipped with Gen7 graphics, support for DirectX 11. Teclast X98 3G uses 9.7-inch Retina IPS screen (2048 × 1536) with support for WCDMA 3G SIM card.

Teclast X98 3G using 64bit wide 2GB DDR3L RAM, 32GB eMMC storage, 2MP front camera, 5MP autofocus front camera, GPS, WIDI support, Bluetooth, OTA upgrade capabilities. Built-in 8500mAh lithium battery, with Intel Smart Dynamic FM technology offers about 8 hours of battery life.

Teclast X98 3G Specs:

Display: IPS 9.7-inch (2048 x 1536)
CPU: 64-bit Intel Atom Bay Trail-T Z3740D? 1.83 GHz
RAM: 2 GB RAM DDR3L 64-bit
FLASH: 32 GB eMMC
WiFi, WiDi
3G, GPS, Bluetooth
Battery: 8500 mAh
OS: Android 4.X
Price: 1299 CNY (209 USD)

Other announced Intel based Teclast models:

Teclast P19HD - 10.1-inch (1920 x 1200 pixels) and 2GB of RAM
Teclast P79HD - 7-inch (1920 x 1200 pixels)
Teclast P79HD 3G - 7-inch (1920 x 1200 pixels) with 3G [...]

http://tabletrepublic.com/forum/lat...il-android-tablet-officaly-released-5392.html

First Wave of Android Tablets with Bay Trail Comes from Ramos, Onda, Cube and Teclast

http://edwardweinert.com/newsy/2014...ensywa-intela-na-rynku-tabletow-nabiera-tempa

ECS LIVA mini PC: Tiny Bay Trail desktop for under $200

Taiwan-based ECS has unveiled a new mini-desktop PC with an Intel Atom Bay Trail-M processor and a price of $200 or less. The ECS LIVA is expected to go on sale in late April, and while the system will support Windows and other operating systems, it’ll ship without an OS. [...]

http://liliputing.com/2014/03/ecs-liva-mini-pc-tiny-bay-trail-desktop-200.html

 

[jpiniero]

That Chinese Tablet's skin looks really similar to iOS 7.

 

[Homeles]

About time, lol.

 

[Enigmoid]

That Chinese Tablet's skin looks really similar to iOS 7.

It looks like its using the same screen panel too.

 

[bullzz]

ya. $200 for a high res screen is awesome

 

[Nothingness]

That Teclast X98 looks really nice for the price, I hope it's rootable Now I wonder when 64-bit Android will be released.

 

[Sweepr]

Intel prepares to launch second wave of Bay Trail-T processors

Intel prepares to launch the second wave of Atom "Bay Trail-T" products for Android and Windows 8.1 tablets. New Atom Z37x5 lineup will boost graphics performance by as much as 16%, and offer greater variety of SKUs, from budget-oriented Z3735E/F/G and up to the new flagship Z3795. The lineup will be comprised of at least 9 different models, most of which were planned to launch this quarter or at the beginning of the second quarter. We now have detailed specifications of seven SKUs, including Atom Z3735D, Z3735E, Z3745, Z3745D, Z3775, Z3775D and Z3795. [...]

www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2014032701_Details_of_upcoming_Atom_Bay_Trail-T_processors.html

I wish Anand would retest Bay Trail-T, using the new C0 Z37x5 models + latest graphics driver.

 

[Kneedragger]

Finally found one of the socketed Bay Trail D mini-itx locally. Took me a while to get the new bios on it and after all the updates to Windows 8.1 it runs pretty good.

Heres my setup.

PC case - Lian Li pc-q25 mini Q
Mobo - GA-J1800N-D2H REV1.0 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128688
OS - Windows 8.1 64bit
SSD - Kingston Digital 120GB SSDNow V300
RAM - Patriot PSD34G13381S (2- 4GB 1333MHz SoDIMM)

I didn't need to get this large of a PSU but it was on sale and had 6 SATA cables. I will be adding 2-3 more hard drives since this is a media server build. Maybe even a Blu-Ray drive for ripping my movies.

Right now with a Kill-a-Watt tester it idles at 15.5 - 16 watts. Another guy on XBMC forums is running a 120W DC-DC powerboard/60W AC adapter and I believe Windows 7 idling at 11.5 with the same tester.

 

[Infraction Jack]

Where can I get a Baytrail quad core pentium MITX board with a PCIE 16/8x slot?

 

[CHADBOGA]

Finally found one of the socketed Bay Trail D mini-itx locally. Took me a while to get the new bios on it and after all the updates to Windows 8.1 it runs pretty good.

Heres my setup.

PC case - Lian Li pc-q25 mini Q
Mobo - GA-J1800N-D2H REV1.0 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128688
OS - Windows 8.1 64bit
SSD - Kingston Digital 120GB SSDNow V300
RAM - Patriot PSD34G13381S (2- 4GB 1333MHz SoDIMM)

I didn't need to get this large of a PSU but it was on sale and had 6 SATA cables. I will be adding 2-3 more hard drives since this is a media server build. Maybe even a Blu-Ray drive for ripping my movies.

Right now with a Kill-a-Watt tester it idles at 15.5 - 16 watts. Another guy on XBMC forums is running a 120W DC-DC powerboard/60W AC adapter and I believe Windows 7 idling at 11.5 with the same tester.

Why buy BayTrail over a Celeron?

 

[ninaholic37]

Why buy BayTrail Celeron over a Haswell Celeron?

FTFY... I think?

 

[cbn]

Where can I get a Baytrail quad core pentium MITX board with a PCIE 16/8x slot?

None of the consumer Bay Trail Mini-ITX boards I have seen have either a PCI-E x16 or PCI-E x8. (The two Asrock consumer Bay Trail Micro-ATX boards do have PCI-E x16 however. They are also the only consumer Bay Trail board so far able to take standard voltage DIMMs, the others use DDR3L SO-DIMMs)

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Q1900M/

If you want an industrial quad core Bay Trail Mini-ITX with PCI-E x8 or x16 I think your options will improve. For example, the I know the Supermicro X10SBA-B has a x8 slot (it is a J1900 quad core Celeron though just like Asrock consumer board.)