The Intel Atom Thread

Nothingness · Oct 26, 2013

paperwastage, that starts looking good, thanks for the update!

paperwastage · Oct 26, 2013

Nothingness said:
paperwastage, that starts looking good, thanks for the update!

yeah. now I'll have to look through the dmesg logs and figure out what's wrong

trying to get android-ia to boot, but facing the same problems with EFI (iso/img doesn't have x86/ia32 efi compiled

https://01.org/android-ia/downloads

external/efitools/Android.mk

# TODO: support ia32 prebuilt

ifeq ($(TARGET_KERNEL_ARCH),x86_64)

arch_name := x86_64

need to compile it manually as well

Sweepr · Oct 26, 2013

Just checked and found lots of ASUS T100 (Bay Trail-T - Atom Z3740) gaming videos @ YouTube

monstercameron · Oct 26, 2013

Sweepr said:
Just checked and found lots of ASUS T100 (Bay Trail-T - Atom Z3740) gaming videos @ YouTube

Flatout 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBzOaR-vGJA
Call of Duty Black Ops: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4ekbTRWvSQ
Half Life 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUVNy1_k8Xs
TES V Skyrim: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6qvEVwN6T8
Far Cry 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjmkvNWJ6I8
League of Legends: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX6LwVDf5XI
Legend of Grimrock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IWrjDHg_yY
Roller Coaster Tycoon 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDaIh4u2DpI
Torchlight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNvGJwIiHXU
Bastion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sgd405ky18
Tony Hawk HD : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiTyCprxq_g
Diablo III: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7mvzzclksM
Fallout 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FngFMaZYAI
Trine 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4lm_R4h8Hg
Minecraft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdNfIEJgN54
Civilization V: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bi_0TRTe1k
Call of Duty 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUquWwt1Hd4
Starcraft 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkSZzQqiVOY
Crysis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMqnm6nDWVs
Wii Emulator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBvLzZfRS_I
Counter Strike Global Offensive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPHo8X1JLeQ

Also, performance overview @ Windows 8.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYSkzEEKg3k
Impressive improvement compared to Clover Trail.

already posted most of these http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35643642&postcount=1459

@shivansps also mentioned that the strong* cpu performance brings it around the competitor's 18W 40nm apu in terms of performance in some 3d workloads
that aside, I really wish UMPCs would make a comeback! :biggrin:

*relatively

Shivansps · Oct 26, 2013

Its more a wishfull thinking than a statment, im already placed results of the E-350 on page 57? or it was 58? anyway, just waiting for someone with a T100 to compare.

I know the E-350 and what i can do because i own one for almost 4 years now, its CPU bound most of the time, and you must also keep in mind that for dual core Temash, A4-1200 and A4-1250 and likely worse than E-350 because of that and probably end at the same level or worse than quad BTs outside of benchmarks, now dual BTs are going to be another thing.

cbn · Oct 26, 2013

Earlier in the thread it was mentioned Intel's 22nm Smartphone SOC (merrifield) would have an IMG Tech Rogue GPU.

Do we know what iGPU the 14nm Intel smartphone SOC will have? IMG tech or Intel GEN graphics?

Shivansps · Oct 26, 2013

I did test of COD4 on the same conditions that the guy in the videos and Crysis 1 on the E-350, the COD4 is faster on T100, Crysis is faster on E-350.

COD4 720P all LOW
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
1195, 65765, 8, 41, 18.171
http://i.imgur.com/Ik3v10k.png

Crysis 1 720P all LOW
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
1997, 74275, 18, 35, 26.887

http://i.imgur.com/k1MUniG.jpg

Ajay · Oct 26, 2013

Computer Bottleneck said:
Earlier in the thread it was mentioned Intel's 22nm Smartphone SOC (merrifield) would have an IMG Tech Rogue GPU.

Do we know what iGPU the 14nm Intel smartphone SOC will have? IMG tech or Intel GEN graphics?

From a thread over @ RWT, it still may br IMG Tech. Intel GFX still use too much power (but have better graphics quality, how's that for a twist?).

monstercameron · Oct 27, 2013

it seems phoronix has pretty much given up on booting linux on the t100
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ5NzE

seitur · Oct 27, 2013

monstercameron said:
it seems phoronix has pretty much given up on booting linux on the t100
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ5NzE

I wonder how similar Bay-Trail Android Hybrid / Transformer devices will look in this regard...

Ajay said:
From a thread over @ RWT, it still may br IMG Tech. Intel GFX still use too much power (but have better graphics quality, how's that for a twist?).

"RWT" ?

monstercameron · Oct 27, 2013

seitur said:
I wonder how similar Bay-Trail Android Hybrid / Transformer devices will look in this regard...

"RWT" ?

most likely http://www.realworldtech.com/

paperwastage · Oct 27, 2013

monstercameron said:
it seems phoronix has pretty much given up on booting linux on the t100
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ5NzE

let me ping him on twitter...

I'll stop posting Asus t100 updates to this thread (since this is about BayTrai/Z3770)

If you want to monitor my progress (on getting ubuntu/w7/w8/android), go to this thread over @ XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500078

Shivansps · Oct 27, 2013

monstercameron said:
it seems phoronix has pretty much given up on booting linux on the t100
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ5NzE

Someone here already showed up you can boot using GPT friendly boot system.

What you see there is something that is starting to be adopted slowly, MBR boot will be fully removed at some point by everyone. Notebooks are likely the next.

monstercameron · Oct 27, 2013

paperwastage said:
let me ping him on twitter...

I'll stop posting Asus t100 updates to this thread (since this is about BayTrai/Z3770)

If you want to monitor my progress (on getting ubuntu/w7/w8/android), go to this thread over @ XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500078

i'll be checking from time to time.

Shivansps · Oct 27, 2013

There is not much to check, UEFI only boot means MBR bootloader is not supported, this will be become more common with the time, but MBR is deprecated at this point.

If EFI bootloader is working them its OK, you just need to get used to it, no MBR support its not a valid reason to complain, to get it working its exactly the same steps you need to do in order to boot from a " UEFI: XXXX " on any uefi enabled mb today.

paperwastage · Oct 27, 2013

Shivansps said:
There is not much to check, UEFI only boot means MBR bootloader is not supported, this will be become more common with the time, but MBR is deprecated at this point.

If EFI bootloader is working them its OK, you just need to get used to it, no MBR support its not a valid reason to complain, to get it working its exactly the same steps you need to do in order to boot from a " UEFI: XXXX " on any uefi enabled mb today.

yeah, but there's still a small wrinkle about needing x86 UEFI (while most devices/places/distros only support x64 UEFI)

getting Windows 7 might be a pain(Trying to slipstream in the x86 UEFI)

getting android might be easier(compile x86 UEFI instead of x64 UEFI)

getting *nix should be easy now (include x86 GRUB, hopefully all other drivers like graphics are working)

Shivansps · Oct 28, 2013

just out of curiosity, have you tried to rename the 64bit efi?

As for Win7 im certain it will run, but manual tweak or creation of bootmanager and bootloader will be needed, still i dont see much point.

Nothingness · Oct 28, 2013

Congratulations to paperwastage for successfully booting Ubuntu

http://phoronix.com/forums/showthre...100-Is-Not-Linux-Friendly&p=366411#post366411

Now this shows how poor the resolution is, there's no way I could use that toy.

monstercameron · Oct 28, 2013

Nothingness said:
Congratulations to paperwastage for successfully booting Ubuntu http://phoronix.com/forums/showthre...100-Is-Not-Linux-Friendly&p=366411#post366411

Now this shows how poor the resolution is, there's no way I could use that toy.

obviously that is a gfx driver related problem. The resolution isn't set to the screens native resolution.

Nothingness · Oct 28, 2013

monstercameron said:
obviously that is a gfx driver related problem. The resolution isn't set to the screens native resolution.

Oh you're right, the aspect ratio is obviously not correct, so it's not native...

Ajay · Oct 28, 2013

seitur said:
"RWT" ?

monstercameron said:
most likely http://www.realworldtech.com/

Correct. THX.

seitur · Oct 28, 2013

Thanks for answer.

paperwastage · Oct 28, 2013

Shivansps said:
just out of curiosity, have you tried to rename the 64bit efi?

As for Win7 im certain it will run, but manual tweak or creation of bootmanager and bootloader will be needed, still i dont see much point.

I tried it once(before compiling grub properly to x86 and using the that instead)

Didn't work. Could try it again(need to pop by best buy /staples to get a few spare flash drives)

The boot.efi is instruction-specific

cbn · Oct 28, 2013

For a Z3680 budget tablet, I would definitely be interested in something like this:

http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android

From what I understand Ubuntu and Android will run side by side each other (since they are both based on Linux). So no need to reboot when switching OSes.

paperwastage · Oct 28, 2013

btw, Asus T100 64GB is selling at $350 @ Microcenter, available shipping ($6 + tax) or in-store pickup... it's $50 off MSRP

http://www.microcenter.com/product/422748/T100TA-C1-GR_Transformer_Book_Tablet

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