The Intel Atom Thread

[Shivansps]

Well, we dont know how much AMD or Intel sell their CPUs for.

Yeah, the 2955U its listed at $132 at ark, but still, we have a Chromebook for $250 and the Dell 11 3000 for $379, that last one is what calls my atention because its even cheaper that Acer offerings with A4-1250.

 

[Ancalagon44]

The Acer offering has an IPS screen which will increase the price.

 

[Shivansps]

And more memory, yet still i could never ever have imagined to see a 11.6" from Dell with a crippled Haswell at the same price range than a A4-1250, there is a huge performance gap on there, i dont even need to see reviews to know that. Dell also announced a AMD version for $30 less, but as far i know no model was especified.

 

[Sweepr]

ASUS Transformer Book T100 Review: Redefining the Entry-Level Windows Notebook

Today we meet one of the best candidates from the Wintel side of the fence. Using the traditional formula of the latest version of Windows coupled with similarly targeted silicon from Intel, ASUS put together the Transformer Book T100. Built by the very company that originally kicked off the netbook revolution, the Transformer Book T100 attempts to breathe new life into the entry-level Windows notebook market. We were very excited at the prospects of a $349 10.1-inch Windows 8.1 tablet with keyboard dock back when ASUS announced the T100 last month, but let's find out how it holds up in its final, shipping configuration.

The T100's hardware isn't a tremendous departure from Transformer designs we've seen in the past. ASUS settled on a 10.1-inch 1366 x 768 display, a size that we've been fairly comfortable with and a resolution that's acceptable given the device's aggressive price target. I'll get to display quality analysis in a bit, but this is far from the sort of cheap PC panel we're used to. Viewing angles and contrast are both good, although the gap between panel and cover glass can create some annoying reflections.

...At $349 including a keyboard dock, Windows 8.1 and Office 2013, it's no surprise that the Transformer Book T100 isn't built out of anything exotic. Glossy plastic adorns the back cover, and the front is standard glass fare. Despite the cost constraints, the T100 still looks good. It's subtle, but ASUS' circular brushed pattern is visible beneath the outer layer of plastic on the back. I like the effect a lot, it's not very jarring but gives some depth to what would otherwise be a typical/boring design.

I complained about multitasking performance in our recent Chromebook 11 review. Intel’s Bay Trail silicon in the T100 has no such problem. Playing YouTube HD videos in the background while writing in Google Docs is a non-issue.

Full Review: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7428/asus-transformer-book-t100-review

 

[Ancalagon44]

Sweepr please edit your post. If we want to read the review, we will read the review. If there is a particular thing you find interesting, by all means post it here, but its rude to others (I think) to just reproduce pages and pages of material.

 

[Sweepr]

Sweepr please edit your post. If we want to read the review, we will read the review. If there is a particular thing you find interesting, by all means post it here, but its rude to others (I think) to just reproduce pages and pages of material.

As you said, whoever wants to read the review will still click on the link. This is still AnandTech, and we're on the Bay Trail thread, I will post any text or piece of content I find interesting. 🙂

 

[Ancalagon44]

As you said, whoever wants to read the review will still click on the link. This is still AnandTech, and we're on the Bay Trail thread, I will post any text or piece of content I find interesting. 🙂

Yeah but you posted almost all of the benchmark graphs. Why?

 

[liahos1]

for a 31w battery running windows 8 full its good. would anyone want to hazard a guess as to how much the keyboard dock adds in terms of total watts?

 

[frozentundra123456]

ASUS Transformer Book T100 Review: Redefining the Entry-Level Windows Notebook

Full Review: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7428/asus-transformer-book-t100-review

Yea, that looks like a really sweet package to me. Wish I could dump my POS Acer A100 Android tablet and get one of those. I was really excited to get the A100, but it has been a gross disappointment in every area: terrible wi-fi connectivity, lousy battery life, slow performance, and buggy software to name a few. I am sure newer gens of Android tablets are better, but I definitely would get one of these before any android tablet.

 

[Nothingness]

As you said, whoever wants to read the review will still click on the link. This is still AnandTech, and we're on the Bay Trail thread, I will post any text or piece of content I find interesting. 🙂

Indeed so let's post part of the conclusion:

At the end of the day the T100 is a good device, but like the Chromebook 11 we recently reviewed it could’ve been amazing with a few tweaks.
...
I look at the work that ASUS and Google do together and can’t help but wonder what the T100 would look like if it had the same sort of pressure/influence. Perhaps that’s a bigger criticism of how Microsoft works with its partners, but I look at the comparison of ASUS tablets with and without Google’s influence and try to imagine a further polished Transformer Book. That’s something I’d really like to see.

That pretty much sums up what I think. Just barely good. I will definitely wait for something else.

 

[liahos1]

Indeed so let's post part of the conclusion:


That pretty much sums up what I think. Just barely good. I will definitely wait for something else.

why dont these oems build tablets with 42whr batteries like apple?? I'd get like 11.5 hours of battery life with this thing.

Just build a device with a 1080p+ screen, 42whr battery capacity, capacitive stylus, LTE and good accessory support and price it at 499-599. I'll buy it day one!!! Take my money!!!

 

[dahorns]

Indeed so let's post part of the conclusion:


That pretty much sums up what I think. Just barely good. I will definitely wait for something else.

I don't think it is accurate to paraphrase the conclusion as "Just barely good." If anything, it is more like "good, verging on great."

It clearly isn't a top-end device, but its not meant (or priced) to be either.

 

[Roland00Address]

for a 31w battery running windows 8 full its good. would anyone want to hazard a guess as to how much the keyboard dock adds in terms of total watts?

Me, me, me, me, pick me

The answer is 0 watts for the dock has no battery inside it (as a cost saving mechanism), the dock is effectively a usb hub providing keyboard, trackpad, and 1 usb 3

 

[liahos1]

Me, me, me, me, pick me

The answer is 0 watts for the dock has no battery inside it (as a cost saving mechanism), the dock is effectively a usb hub providing keyboard, trackpad, and 1 usb 3

so you dont think the keyboard or dock take up additional watts? e.g. dont add to drain?

 

[Roland00Address]

Just build a device with a 1080p+ screen, 42whr battery capacity, capacitive stylus, LTE and good accessory support and price it at 499-599. I'll buy it day one!!! Take my money!!!

Dell Venue Pro 11 (actually a 10.8" screen) which has a 30 or 37 watt hour swappable battery, 1080p screen, keyboard and other dock options, active stylus. Prices starting at $499. They will even have lte skus for the Venue Pro 11 but who knows on pricing on the lte skus.

There may be other tablets in the near feature that also meet those requirements.

so you dont think the keyboard or dock take up additional watts? e.g. dont add to drain?

It may add to drain (I doubt it), but since it doesn't have a battery it won't add to the battery life

 

[liahos1]

Dell Venue Pro 11 (actually a 10.8" screen) which has a 30 or 37 watt hour swappable battery, 1080p screen, keyboard and other dock options, active stylus. Prices starting at $499. They will even have lte skus but for the Venue Pro 11 but who knows on pricing.

There may be other tablets in the near feature that also meet those requirements.

i thought the 37whr one was with haswell? I really am keen on finding a review of this sharp meebius pad and may try to get that.

 

[Nothingness]

why dont these oems build tablets with 42whr batteries like apple?? I'd get like 11.5 hours of battery life with this thing.

Just build a device with a 1080p+ screen, 42whr battery capacity, capacitive stylus, LTE and good accessory support and price it at 499-599. I'll buy it day one!!! Take my money!!!

Exactly. As Roland00Address wrote, Dell Venue Pro 11 might be a good candidate 🙂 Let's wait for reviews.

 

[bullzz]

Dell Venue is now ready for order
http://www.dell.com/us/p/dell-venue-8-pro/pd?oc=fncwv8p01h&model_id=dell-venue-8-pro

this one has the z3740d though

 

[liahos1]

Dell Venue is now ready for order
http://www.dell.com/us/p/dell-venue-8-pro/pd?oc=fncwv8p01h&model_id=dell-venue-8-pro

this one has the z3740d though

unbelievable. where is the venue pro 11!!!

edit:

nevermind that comes in november!

 

[Abwx]

So 8.68h with a 31WH battery with a chip that is supposed
to be less power hungry than the highly hyped 3770 that was
supposed to eat 2.5W with all four cores running at 2.2-2.3GHz ,
wich should translate to 0.5W with a trivial task like browsing , yet
it seems that s it s several time this amount given said battery life...

What happened.???..And still no official TDP figure , only
sloppy SDPs...

 

[monstercameron]

So 8.68h with a 31WH battery with a chip that is supposed
to be less power hungry than the highly hyped 3770 that was
supposed to eat 2.5W with all four cores running at 2.2-2.3GHz ,
wich should translate to 0.5W with a trivial task like browsing , yet
it seems that s it s several time this amount given said battery life...

What happened.???..And still no official TDP figure , only
sloppy SDPs...

well, just wait for your vindication after anand posts his power numbers...

 

[Abwx]

well, just wait for your vindication after anand posts his power numbers...

Early number are according to Anand "not stellar" despite :

only 2GB LPDDR3

10.1-inch IPS 1366 x 768

32GB/64GB eMMC + microSD card ,

How much more comsumption with a regular HDD
and a slightly bigger screen , not even at 1080p.??..

 

[insertcarehere]

Yeah, the 2955U its listed at $132 at ark, but still, we have a Chromebook for $250 and the Dell 11 3000 for $379, that last one is what calls my atention because its even cheaper that Acer offerings with A4-1250.

It seems awfully strange that Acer would use haswell celeron when baytrail-m would have likely made for a cheaper solution with longer battery life.

 

[Muyoso]

It seems awfully strange that Acer would use haswell celeron when baytrail-m would have likely made for a cheaper solution with longer battery life.

I wonder what the GPU performance of the 2955u is going to be like. Would be very interesting to boot Ubuntu and play some steam games on either of those new chromebooks.

 

[monstercameron]

I wonder what the GPU performance of the 2955u is going to be like. Would be very interesting to boot Ubuntu and play some steam games on either of those new chromebooks.

it has 10 EUs and clocks up to a GHz, so the gpu perf is around hd3000 level...so I am guessing i3-2357M level.