The ignorance of boxers

[gerwen]

I'm not so sure he'd be summarily destroyed.

He's one of the world's top athletes (arguably of course). If he signed on, he'd be sure to train with some of the best the sport could offer, and money can buy. A guy with that sort of athletic ability could pick up a lot in a few months of training camp.

Chances are, anyone fighting him would ignore the stand-up game in favour of trying to get him off his feet (smart), so he going to be training on punishing a guy trying to shoot on him. He's wicked fast and accurate with his hands, probably like no mma fighter has ever seen. He doesn't have to aim for a win on the ground either, only a stalemate there, like many other mma punchers.

If he prepared properly, he'd have a chance. In my eyes, odds would be against him against any top guy in his weight class, but i doubt he'd be a pushover.

I think it'd be entertaining as hell. I hope he's more than just mouth about this, as i'd pay money to see him on the underside of a decent ground and pound.

*edit* unfortunately, i doubt he'd risk it, as the squared circle is way more profitable for him than the octagon, and the octagon carries much larger risk.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: waggy
depends. if it got to the mat floyd would be dead.

but if he gets that one or two hits in he will knock sherk out.

Knock him out or simply knock him down? I doubt he has one punch stopping power or is so incredibly strong that a mixed martial artist couldn't get close enough to wrap him up.

 

[TheNinja]

1. He is never going to fight in the UFC
2. He is just talking smack to build up his upcoming fight on PPV as he gets a % of PPV buys
3. He would get killed in a UFC octagon.
4. He would kill any UFC LW-WW fighter in a ring under boxing rules.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: TheNinja
1. He is never going to fight in the UFC
2. He is just talking smack to build up his upcoming fight on PPV as he gets a % of PPV buys
3. He would get killed in a UFC octagon.
4. He would kill any UFC LW-WW fighter in a ring under boxing rules.

Agree, sort of. I think the transition from boxer to ufc fighter would be a lot easier than ufc to boxing. There are a lot fewer things to "unlearn".

Edit: But I want to add that mayweather couldn't deal with the transition because he's always breaking his hand.

 

[kaizersose]

Originally posted by: TheNinja
1. He is never going to fight in the UFC
2. He is just talking smack to build up his upcoming fight on PPV as he gets a % of PPV buys
3. He would get killed in a UFC octagon.
4. He would kill any UFC LW-WW fighter in a ring under boxing rules.

everything you wrote is true, i think what people are talking about here is the Floyd disputes your point #3.

 

[mrkun]

Yeah, I don't think he'd beat any top fighters, but assuming he trained MMA for awhile to prep, I think he could do decently well.

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: gerwen
I'm not so sure he'd be summarily destroyed.

He's one of the world's top athletes (arguably of course). If he signed on, he'd be sure to train with some of the best the sport could offer, and money can buy. A guy with that sort of athletic ability could pick up a lot in a few months of training camp.

Chances are, anyone fighting him would ignore the stand-up game in favour of trying to get him off his feet (smart), so he going to be training on punishing a guy trying to shoot on him. He's wicked fast and accurate with his hands, probably like no mma fighter has ever seen. He doesn't have to aim for a win on the ground either, only a stalemate there, like many other mma punchers.

If he prepared properly, he'd have a chance. In my eyes, odds would be against him against any top guy in his weight class, but i doubt he'd be a pushover.

I think it'd be entertaining as hell. I hope he's more than just mouth about this, as i'd pay money to see him on the underside of a decent ground and pound.

*edit* unfortunately, i doubt he'd risk it, as the squared circle is way more profitable for him than the octagon, and the octagon carries much larger risk.

Agreed. He may not have years of experience in MMA fighting, but with the proclivity and long history of boxing, for Mayweather to have made it where he is, he's likely a better natural athlete than many UFC fighters. Without insane speed and accuracy, and at least decent strength (for his size), he wouldn't have been successful in such a long-standing and popular sport.

It's similar to comparing an F1 or rally car driver to a drifter. Don't get me wrong, drifting is a great sport, is incredibly fun to watch, and no doubt requires vast amounts of skill and training. But because of its youth in the US, its drivers likely don't have the same obstacles and weed out procedures as the WRC, for example. Thus, take a well-established F1 or rally champion, let him prepare for a few months, and I have no doubt that he'd do very, very well in something like the Formula Drift league.

 

[Hyperlite]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
The biggest problem I see is that the boxer will be less likely to watch for feet.

There's no kicking in boxing 🙂

exactly. it would be hilarious to watch him just get layed out as someone smacks their foot against the side of his neck.

[chris tucker]WHICH ONE YALL JUST KICKED ME[/chris tucker]

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: dbot

Originally posted by: alkemyst
not like any boxers never started their careers...continued their careers in street fights and bar brawls.

thats the point, this isn't a bar fight or brawl. guys in MMA train for a long time in many different disciplines. The ones who aren't well rounded don't lst very long.

And he talks about Chuck Liddell like he's a boxer. Chuck's also a great wrestler and escapes submissions, that is why he has been successful. He stuffed takedown attempts from Randy Couture who is a world class wrestler.

I see you point, however; many boxers mix things up in their training. More often than not the boxer would lose.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: kaizersose
he wouldnt last two minutes, i would happily place money on any moderately experienced fighter over him. it would go like this:
-MMA fighter shoots his legs, he has no clue how to defend, goes to ground
-doesnt know any better, rolls over to protect face, MMA fighter takes his back
-choke complete, fight over
-i do celebratory dance of joy over money won

No, that's how it would go if Mayweather showed up to a boxing match and his opponent inexplicably treated it like an MMA fight.

It's silly to think that Mayweather wouldn't schedule this fight several months out and that he wouldn't train during those several months to at least know how to defend, know not to roll over, and so forth...

 

[hdeck]

i doubt he really feels that way. he was talking about UFC before his fight with de la hoya & just wanted to sell fights. if he has to say boxing is better than UFC or w/e then that's what he will do. he's trying to sell his product as better so they will generate more buys and thus make more money.

 

[TravisT]

hehe, the boxers point of view is that MMA fighters do not know how to hit, dodge, or take down a boxer. The first thing an MMA guy would do is take him down. Mayweather is untrained on defending a take-down, whereas a UFC Fighter trains on boxing.

One thing I do find funny is that Dana White is willing to let Mayweather show his worth. If boxing didn't have Mayweather right now, where would be the interest? Boxing needs someone to stir things up a little bit. Afterall, boxing is already on its last leg... Dana White just wants to smother it.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: hdeck
i doubt he really feels that way. he was talking about UFC before his fight with de la hoya & just wanted to sell fights. if he has to say boxing is better than UFC or w/e then that's what he will do. he's trying to sell his product as better so they will generate more buys and thus make more money.

of course he would.

but Mayweather would have months of training in BJJ or wrestling. where a lot of UFC fighters have years of training. also a majority are colligete champions or even olympic wrestlers.

i can't see him being able to keep from being taken down at will.

 

[911paramedic]

A few solid leg kicks to him and he would be "WTF?"...then it hits the mat.

Buh....bye.

 

[da loser]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: hdeck
i doubt he really feels that way. he was talking about UFC before his fight with de la hoya & just wanted to sell fights. if he has to say boxing is better than UFC or w/e then that's what he will do. he's trying to sell his product as better so they will generate more buys and thus make more money.

of course he would.

but Mayweather would have months of training in BJJ or wrestling. where a lot of UFC fighters have years of training. also a majority are colligete champions or even olympic wrestlers.

i can't see him being able to keep from being taken down at will.

you don't learn that stuff in months. just look at all the kickboxers that come in. they get taken to the ground and are pounded. it takes them years to get the hang of it.