the Hypocrisy of many ATOTers is amazing.

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
you go OFF on PETA but yet, dogs can't be mistreated in the slightest. talk about hypocrisy.

just because some of you keep dogs for pets do not mean dogs are any different from any other animal. all animals should be treated the same.

eat cows, eat chickens, eat pigs, eat dogs.

one is no different from the other.

So you're basically saying PETA is only about the mistreatment of dogs? They do nothing else at all?

If you're going to rant, at least use your brain

if you are going to go off on someone about not using their brain, at least have a coherent and logical argument.

Sorry I didn't "dumb" it down enough for you

 

[Laughalot]

I think dogs are a bit more intelligent than a chicken, that is why you see them guiding the blind, finding the lost, and discovering the guilty. I have to disagree with your hypocrisy statement.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Laughalot
I think dogs are a bit more intelligent than a chicken, that is why you see them guiding the blind, finding the lost, and discovering the guilty. I have to disagree with your hypocrisy statement.

If you study any animal(or insect for that matter) close enough, you will find that it posesses intelligence.

So we should judge an animals worth by its intelligence?

Ok.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Laughalot
I think dogs are a bit more intelligent than a chicken, that is why you see them guiding the blind, finding the lost, and discovering the guilty. I have to disagree with your hypocrisy statement.

dolphins are more intelligent than dogs. do you have a problem with eating dolphins?

as far as i'm concerned. meat is meat.

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Laughalot
I think dogs are a bit more intelligent than a chicken, that is why you see them guiding the blind, finding the lost, and discovering the guilty. I have to disagree with your hypocrisy statement.

dolphins are more intelligent than dogs. do you have a problem with eating dolphins?

as far as i'm concerned. meat is meat.

Dolphins are the second most intelligent creatures on this blue planet called Earth

 

[walla]

Originally posted by: Laughalot
I think dogs are a bit more intelligent than a chicken, that is why you see them guiding the blind, finding the lost, and discovering the guilty. I have to disagree with your hypocrisy statement.

There has been recent research that suggests fish may be more intelligent than dogs or cats yet its one of the most widely consumed animals in the worlds.

Whether or not thats true, who knows, but you won't win an argument against PETAns for using that intelligence theory.

 

[walla]

I think the reason Americans don't eat dog for the most part is that we see many human qualities in them. Most of us relate to them on a human level. We can see when they are happy, upset, angry, tired, etc. They seem to know who we are. The disgust we have for eating something like a cat or dog is similar to the digust most of us have for cannabalism.

The more intelligent an animal is, the more we can relate to it. I'm not saying intelligence should be the measure for "animal worth"...but I think thats how most people see it.

 

[mugs]

I don't think of wild dogs as any different from any other wild animal. Pets on the other hand I'd consider different, regardless of species. That's not because of the animal but because of the owner and the relationship he or she has with the animal. Cruel treatment of any animal, wild or domesticated, is wrong, but the boundaries that PETA set on what is cruel and what is not are a bit extreme. In the case of the doggy dissection, I don't think it's cruel because the dog didn't experience pain.

I also hate PETA because they support ELF, and ELF is a terrorist group like any other.

 

[dug777]

I fvuckin hate PETA so much :|

 

[Gurck]

PETA is like a forum troll... their goal isn't to affect change, but rather to rile people up. That's why I dislike them. I'm all for preventing cruelty to animals within reason.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: walla
There has been recent research that suggests fish may be more intelligent than dogs or cats yet its one of the most widely consumed animals in the worlds.

Whether or not thats true, who knows, but you won't win an argument against PETAns for using that intelligence theory.

Is this the crap quote from that one biologist, who was making a point about the depleted state of fisheries, not the intelligence of fish?

Link or absolute BS.

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Laughalot
I think dogs are a bit more intelligent than a chicken, that is why you see them guiding the blind, finding the lost, and discovering the guilty. I have to disagree with your hypocrisy statement.

dolphins are more intelligent than dogs. do you have a problem with eating dolphins?

as far as i'm concerned. meat is meat.

Dolphins are the second most intelligent creatures on this blue planet called Earth

yes. Humans are third

And I WOULD have a bit of a problem eating dolphin.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: walla
So I would be a hypocrite to be a hunter yet disavow the NRA?

:roll:

Compairing the NRA to PETA is just plain ignorance. The NRA are not "radicals."

All they do is seek to protect and preserve the 2nd Amendment.

 

[FoBoT]

i don't like dogs , they p00p all over the place

and i would eat dog if it was in the correct cultural setting, ie i was in a country where it was on the menu, i would try dog steak or whatever, sure

 

[KK]

I hate PETA. Dogs, I don't really give a sh1t about either unless I own one. Someone else beating their dog, I really couldn't give 2 sh1ts about it. Not my problem. Somebody beating my dog, then I'll get involved.

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Originally posted by: desk

Originally posted by: Trevelyan

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I hate PETA with a passion.
I dislike anyone who values the life of animals more than human life, which PETA does.
Text

Exactly. PETA is crazy because they treat animals like they are equal or of more value than humans. Although, sometimes its freaky to hear people post about sentencing animal abusers to death... it's more of an emotional response than anything. No one likes to hear about animal mistreatment.

besides religion, give me one reason why animals should NOT be treated as equals to humans?

Animals dont have the ability to determine right from wrong. They just know what not to do to avoid punishment.
Humans however have the ability to determine right from wrong and make decisions. They consciously do things that they know are wrong. (Well except for the insane)

Hence, animals are not equal to humans.

 

[StageLeft]

You have a point. I think PETA are silly at times, but they do bring up real concerns too.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: walla
So I would be a hypocrite to be a hunter yet disavow the NRA?

:roll:

Compairing the NRA to PETA is just plain ignorance. The NRA are not "radicals."

All they do is seek to protect and preserve the 2nd Amendment.

I think you're stretching that analogy more than walla intended. His point was that just because you agree with one part of an organization's stance doesn't mean you agree with all of it.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: walla
So I would be a hypocrite to be a hunter yet disavow the NRA?

:roll:

Compairing the NRA to PETA is just plain ignorance. The NRA are not "radicals."

All they do is seek to protect and preserve the 2nd Amendment.

I think you're stretching that analogy more than walla intended. His point was that just because you agree with one part of an organization's stance doesn't mean you agree with all of it.

Yeah, but still. Even mentioning the NRA in the same discussion as PETA just seems rather silly to me.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
You have a point. I think PETA are silly at times, but they do bring up real concerns too.

The problem is, I don't listen to ANYTHING they say. They blew any and all credibility they ever had a LONG time ago.

In fact, I'd say they do more harm for animal protection than good for this very reason.

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
you go OFF on PETA but yet, dogs can't be mistreated in the slightest. talk about hypocrisy.

just because some of you keep dogs for pets do not mean dogs are any different from any other animal. all animals should be treated the same.

eat cows, eat chickens, eat pigs, eat dogs.

one is no different from the other.

It's not every day you see lifers posting blatant trolls like this. :beer:

*wishes he had a delicious dog sammich*

 

[shilala]

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3

Originally posted by: desk

Originally posted by: Trevelyan

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I hate PETA with a passion.
I dislike anyone who values the life of animals more than human life, which PETA does.
Text

Exactly. PETA is crazy because they treat animals like they are equal or of more value than humans. Although, sometimes its freaky to hear people post about sentencing animal abusers to death... it's more of an emotional response than anything. No one likes to hear about animal mistreatment.

besides religion, give me one reason why animals should NOT be treated as equals to humans?

Animals dont have the ability to determine right from wrong. They just know what not to do to avoid punishment.
Humans however have the ability to determine right from wrong and make decisions. They consciously do things that they know are wrong. (Well except for the insane)

Hence, animals are not equal to humans.

Right from wrong?
Who's to say what's right from wrong in a dog's world. What about a fish's world?
This reminds me of PETA's "sentient being" argument. Plants are okay to eat becuase they don't think or communicate.
It's been scientifically proven that plants DO communicate.
They don't think? How do we know that? Because we're so brilliantly superior? It's proven here at ATOT 100's of times a day that people aren't very fvckin smart, even by our own standards.
What about trees?
Trees outnumber humans on this planet exponentially. They have been around a lot longer than us, and provided we don't completely destroy the world, they'll live long after us. They don't destroy their own environment, they are much more diverse as a species genetically, they live in peace with one another, shall I go on?
Trees are clearly superior to people on every level that comes to mind.
I get your argument McFly, it just doesn't wash.
I believe that all things are equal. Plants, rocks, people, animals, everything.
I choose to eat animals because I can. They taste good and I need to survive. I like plants, too. If I knew of any tasty rocks, I'd be scarfing on them, too. If there was nothing around to eat except people, I'd be eating those stupid bumfvckers on a daily basis.
On the other hand, I respect all animals, plants, and rocks. I need them. It'd be stupid for me not to appreciate them and protect them.
^^^That's not hypocritical, it's putting intelligence to work for me. Eat=survive. Destroy your dinner=perish.

 

[conjur]

Bark! Bark!

Woof!


http://www.apa.org/monitor/may05/dogs.html

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: shilala

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3

Originally posted by: desk

Originally posted by: Trevelyan

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I hate PETA with a passion.
I dislike anyone who values the life of animals more than human life, which PETA does.
Text

Exactly. PETA is crazy because they treat animals like they are equal or of more value than humans. Although, sometimes its freaky to hear people post about sentencing animal abusers to death... it's more of an emotional response than anything. No one likes to hear about animal mistreatment.

besides religion, give me one reason why animals should NOT be treated as equals to humans?

Animals dont have the ability to determine right from wrong. They just know what not to do to avoid punishment.
Humans however have the ability to determine right from wrong and make decisions. They consciously do things that they know are wrong. (Well except for the insane)

Hence, animals are not equal to humans.

Right from wrong?
Who's to say what's right from wrong in a dog's world. What about a fish's world?
This reminds me of PETA's "sentient being" argument. Plants are okay to eat becuase they don't think or communicate.
It's been scientifically proven that plants DO communicate.
They don't think? How do we know that? Because we're so brilliantly superior? It's proven here at ATOT 100's of times a day that people aren't very fvckin smart, even by our own standards.
What about trees?
Trees outnumber humans on this planet exponentially. They have been around a lot longer than us, and provided we don't completely destroy the world, they'll live long after us. They don't destroy their own environment, they are much more diverse as a species genetically, they live in peace with one another, shall I go on?
Trees are clearly superior to people on every level that comes to mind.
I get your argument McFly, it just doesn't wash.
I believe that all things are equal. Plants, rocks, people, animals, everything.
I choose to eat animals because I can. They taste good and I need to survive. I like plants, too. If I knew of any tasty rocks, I'd be scarfing on them, too. If there was nothing around to eat except people, I'd be eating those stupid bumfvckers on a daily basis.
On the other hand, I respect all animals, plants, and rocks. I need them. It'd be stupid for me not to appreciate them and protect them.
^^^That's not hypocritical, it's putting intelligence to work for me. Eat=survive. Destroy your dinner=perish.

you need a chillpill or maybe a :beer:

 

[qaa541]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Most people dislike PETA because of their extremist behavior not because of what they value.

That would be me.
I dislike the way PETA chooses to express their opinions because they are more concerned with the shock value than the result.

They remind me of the guy who comes on campus with signed all over him that say "Worshippers of Islam are false worshippers of God" and "Christians are the true children of God". Crazy idiots who will never get their message across because they just make themselves look like idiots.

Support your local animal shelter instead of PETA!

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
you go OFF on PETA but yet, dogs can't be mistreated in the slightest. talk about hypocrisy.

just because some of you keep dogs for pets do not mean dogs are any different from any other animal. all animals should be treated the same.

eat cows, eat chickens, eat pigs, eat dogs.

one is no different from the other.

No, it's not hypocrisy.

If you listened to PETA, you would not be allowed to own a dog or any pet for that matter. Treating your pets and other animals nicely does not mean you like Peta or agree with their views. I own pets, I treat most animals nicely, but I still eat meat. Peta would completely disagree with my choices. Peta is an organisation filled with loony idiots.

of course i don't actually believe most atoters are hypocrites.

it just amuses me how many people go off on the practice of eating dogs (shoot i'm a vegetarian myself so i wouldn't eat dogs or cows)

i can understand hating PETA for their extremism. but hating people that eat dogs to the same extent you hate PETA is pretty stupid, if not hypocritical.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Interesting how a nerd forum can be full of dumbass meatheads. Hey look, trendy looking liberal movement, it must be bad. I wonder how many ATers here would actually be able to kill and butcher their own meat.

PETA is a misguided organization with legitimate concerns.