The Hurricane Maria prediction thread

[K1052]

Well shit

 

[Paratus]

Oh hai Maria here como estás? I'm Category 5 now k thanks adiós!

Well it's to be expected due to the increased sea surface temperatures as climate scientists have shown.

https://scholar.google.com/citation...J&citation_for_view=rC8rY4EAAAAJ:qjMakFHDy7sC

Abstract: To better understand the change in global hurricane intensity since 1970, we examined the joint distribution of hurricane intensity with variables identified in the literature as contributing to the intensification of hurricanes. We used a methodology based on information theory, isolating the trend from the shorter-term natural modes of variability. The results show that the trend of increasing numbers of category 4 and 5 hurricanes for the period 1970–2004 is directly linked to the trend in sea-surface temperature; other aspects ...

Don't know who would disagree with this.

Sea surface temperatures now are higher than they were then.

Probably helped drive, Harvey, Irma, Jose, and now Maria.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Well it's to be expected due to the increased sea surface temperatures as climate scientists have shown.

https://scholar.google.com/citation...J&citation_for_view=rC8rY4EAAAAJ:qjMakFHDy7sC

Don't know who would disagree with this.

Sea surface temperatures now are higher than they were then.

Probably helped drive, Harvey, Irma, Jose, and now Maria.

Back in the day if another storm followed the path of a recent storm it couldn't strengthen but these days look at how they can follow each others path in short order and still rapidly gain strength.

 

[Denly]

I'm not in favor of Authoritarian Governmental methods to force your social behavior. The price you pay for a commodity such as electricity or gas should be what it costs to produce and deliver it.

In this case how about cancel all energy subsidies? Gov safe tons of money and let the market correct itself?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

In this case how about cancel all energy subsidies? Gov safe tons of money and let the market correct itself?

OK

 

[Puffnstuff]

Winds are now at 175mph and the central pressure has dropped to 909mb/s.

 

[Paratus]

Winds are now at 175mph and the central pressure has dropped to 909mb/s.

Another monster

 

[pcgeek11]

I don't know back in the 1960's they claimed that the space launches caused all the bad weather...

 

[JSt0rm]

I don't know back in the 1960's they claimed that the space launches caused all the bad weather...

And 2000 years ago people thought the stars were spirits. Times change. 2000 years from now people will see you as a primitive asshole who ruined the earth.

 

[pcgeek11]

And 2000 years ago people thought the stars were spirits. Times change. 2000 years from now people will see you as a primitive asshole who ruined the earth.

And you.

 

[JSt0rm]

And you.

whatever makes you feel better about being a useful idiot to those who are enriching themselves via the destruction of the planet.

 

[soundforbjt]

A friend of mine is on vacation in Puerto Rico, their power went out but the generator kicked in and they still have internet as of 30 min ago..

 

[pcgeek11]

whatever makes you feel better about being a useful idiot to those who are enriching themselves via the destruction of the planet.

I'm sure we are both equally guilty.

I won't be around 2000 years from now. I don't care what they may think to be brutally honest about it. I have done nothing more than anyone else on this forum.

 

[ViRGE]

Since this is P&N, any thoughts on whether this storm might spur PR to seriously apply for statehood out of necessity? Unfortunately it's looking like the damage from this storm is going to be catastrophic, and with PR's existing fiscal woes, they're going to need a lot of Federal aid to rebuild.

 

[ch33zw1z]

As a union we are always paying for each other.

Indeed. And most dems I know would agree. Cons on the other hand, the FYGM mentality is strong. And since the country seems to be he'll bent on staying the course, I'm not sure where that will leave us.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Our country is FUBAR. You idiots have to politicize everything. Maria is a product of nature. It doesn't give a rat's ass what letter comes after your name; what religious affiliation you have, or lack thereof; your ethnicity, sexual preference, gender of choice; your stance on anthropogenic climate change; what have you. The storm will go where it will based on a myriad of oceanographic and atmospheric conditions. Hoping it goes somewhere to punish a group of people that you don't like is malevolent.

It's a very Conservative mindset.

 

[Puffnstuff]

It's a very Conservative mindset.

And here I am thinking that its a very liberal wind set with generous destruction for all.

 

[FerrelGeek]

It's a very Conservative mindset.

Go back and read the Irma thread, sparky. It was one of your lib buddies that got suspended for being a hate-filled asswipe troll. There are stupid hateful people on all parts of the political spectrum. The difference between you and me is that I'm honest about it.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Go back and read the Irma thread, sparky. It was one of your lib buddies that got suspended for being a hate-filled asswipe troll. There are stupid hateful people on all parts of the political spectrum. The difference between you and me is that I'm honest about it.

If you were honest about it, you're reply would reflect it.

When I see calls for fire and brimstone, very rarely comes from the snowflakes, cupcakes, or buttercups on the left.

But don't me stop you from all that honesty wrapped up in a bothsidesdoit charade.

 

[K1052]

AP is reporting that Puerto Rico has lost all power island wide.

This storm should do wonders for upping PR migration to the mainland US.

 

[JSt0rm]

I'm sure we are both equally guilty.

I won't be around 2000 years from now. I don't care what they may think to be brutally honest about it. I have done nothing more than anyone else on this forum.

Not being a good custodian of our world because you will be dead makes you a horrible person.

 

[FerrelGeek]

I've never denied any of that. As I don't hold to that opinion, it makes no difference to me what they say, though I find it cringe worthy. As for you, you're just another typical 'my sh*t don't stink lib'. As I've stated, I don't take joy in the prospect of human suffering or wish said suffering on anyone; even those with whom I disagree.

If you were honest about it, you're reply would reflect it.

When I see calls for fire and brimstone, very rarely comes from the snowflakes, cupcakes, or buttercups on the left.

But don't me stop you from all that honesty wrapped up in a bothsidesdoit charade.

 

[1prophet]

Serious question, what's wrong with reducing man made CO2(or other green house gas) output? Climate change or not, you enjoy the smog so much?

Nothing is wrong with it until you have to pay for the environmental controls and regulations then watch even some of the most liberal tree huggers (especially many of the socially, politically correct tech liberals) turn into rabid conservatives,

outsourcing ain't just about labor costs.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-talks-outsourcing-greenhouse-china/
Is the World Outsourcing Its Greenhouse Emissions to China?
Despite its efforts to go green, China still depends on coal, but critics say blaming China for its rampant pollution is unfair, given all the manufacturing the world's developed countries outsource to Chinese companies

Beyond its contribution to global warming, China is also a world leader in other forms of pollution, given its huge population and its ambition to become the next international economic superpower. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), current levels of air pollution in China far exceed international environmental standards. A recent analysis found, for example, that the air in some four dozen Chinese cities contained as much as seven times as much particulate pollution—which can get lodged in human lungs and cause a wide range of health problems—as deemed safe by WHO.

But critics say blaming China for its rampant pollution is unfair, given all the manufacturing the world’s developed countries outsource to Chinese companies. Qin Gang, China’s foreign ministry spokesman, refers to China as the “world’s factory” and says: “A lot of what you use, wear and eat is produced in China… “On the one hand, you increase production in China; on the other hand you criticize China on the emission reduction issue.” Yang Ailun of Greenpeace China agrees: “All the West has done is export a great slice of its carbon footprint to China and make China the world’s factory.”

 

[Puffnstuff]

Nothing is wrong with it until you have to pay for the environmental controls and regulations then watch even some of the most liberal tree huggers (especially many of the socially, politically correct tech liberals) turn into rabid conservatives,

Everyone should watch this clip as they witness these events unfold around them.

 

[thraashman]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/climate-change-hype-doesnt-help-1505672774

"My own research, cited in a recent Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report, found that during the past half-century tropical storms and hurricanes have not shown an upward trend in frequency or accumulated energy. Instead they remain naturally variable from year-to-year. The global prevalence of the most intense storms (Category 4 and 5) has not shown a significant upward trend either. Historical observations of extreme cyclones in the 1980s, especially in the Southern Hemisphere, are in sore need of reanalysis."
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The historical record books contain dozens of devastating hurricane landfalls over the past century, any of which, if repeated, would be catastrophic regardless of additional climate-change effects. To prepare for the next hurricane, the U.S. needs the best weather forecasts, evacuation plans and leadership. These plans should be built on sound science, not speculation, overselling or exaggeration. Hurricane science in this political climate already has enough spin.

The guy is a literal mouthpiece for the Koch policies. And that's not some conspiracy theory. He works for the Charles Koch founded Cato Institute. Anything he claims about climate science should be considered heavily suspect at best and outright false at worse.