The hunt for illegals is on.

[nixium]

Giving them green cards would solve that so-called problem entirely.

What about the thousands of people doing the right thing and waiting patiently? Were they fools for following the law? Should they be invited in and recommended to break all the immigration rules because that way they'll get free green cards?

 

[nixium]

What don't you see? The state and local officials have information that is solely in their custody. The feds can't make them turn it over.

As for Lynch, there's nothing in her action that compels state and local officials to turn over information they hold, she was attaching relevant conditions to the receipt of federal grants. Trump could do the same thing if he wanted to and he very well might, although he might be sad to see that the scope of grants that he can constitutionally withhold is actually quite small. This is due in significant part to NCIB v. Sebilius. Thanks again, Scalia!

Where to draw the line with this? Petty theft / robbery, gang members, paedophiles, serial killers, etc? Is there even a line or crime so egregious in a liberal's mind that an illegal can even commit, or is everything pardonable?

 

[nixium]

FYI: DHS has a policy of cancelling visas for legal immigrants/visa holders if they have been *arrested* for DUI. We also have to prove that we will not rely on public funds not only for ourselves but also any relatives.

On the other hand, if you're illegal, you can drink and drive all you want, with or without a driver's license, use as many free medical and teaching services as you want and these asshole liberals will fall over themselves defending you. Visa holders? Fuck them, they make too much money. Unless of course, you're a refugee terrorist, then the liberals will be all over you.

 

[fskimospy]

So is it illegal for the feds to mandate a drinking age of 21?

Nope! Again, that's attached to receipt of federal highway funds. The same reason they could deny sanctuary cities law enforcement funds.

 

[fskimospy]

Where to draw the line with this? Petty theft / robbery, gang members, paedophiles, serial killers, etc? Is there even a line or crime so egregious in a liberal's mind that an illegal can even commit, or is everything pardonable?

I don't understand what you're asking or talking about, but I'll give you a hint: talking about what 'a liberal' thinks is kind of talk radio-y.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Bad trolling attempt.

Not trolling at all. Eugenics doesn't = forced sterilization and genocide. Just promote efforts to minimize reproduction by the poor and maximize reproduction by those most intelligent. Nations should seek to maximize the quality of their populace.

If I remember right nearly 90% of undocumented parents who have children in the US have been here more than a year before having their baby. What you're describing is more of a nativist folk tale.

I didn't say most don't stay here, obviously they would want to rather than stay in Mexico, but I'm saying that the option to not "abandon everything" is always available, while still retaining citizenship for their children, yet most prefer ditching their homeland in favor of America. I fully understand their motivation, but what they're "sacrificing" is a crime-ridden, impoverished mess. They still get to keep their immediate family together; it's a simple economic decision. First hit on Google tells me that a significant number even get to live with extended family.

 

[Sea Ray]

The Feds can do stuff like cut off highway funds unless you give it to them.

Exactly. That's how it works. That's how the FEDs get the states to comply. Same story with sanctuary cities.

 

[JockoJohnson]

I said that local police have their hands full enforcing other laws & limited resources. If we sic them on illegals they'll just be able to do less in areas that matter more, same as if we made apprehending speeders a top priority.

Thank you. I misunderstood your initial post about it. And it is true that law enforcement already has enough to do without having to check for illegal status.

 

[fskimospy]

Exactly. That's how it works. That's how the FEDs get the states to comply. Same story with sanctuary cities.

Only with funds related to the topic at hand. See NCIB v. Sebilius.

The vast majority of funding is going nowhere.

 

[alien42]

What about the thousands of people doing the right thing and waiting patiently? Were they fools for following the law? Should they be invited in and recommended to break all the immigration rules because that way they'll get free green cards?

once again, the majority of illegal immigrants in the US arrived here legally. the entire basis for your argument is wrong.

i have personally known immigrants who lost their legal status for many reasons, from getting screwed by an attorney to needing to work two jobs in order to survive and losing their school based visas because they had to take a semester off.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Only with funds related to the topic at hand. See NCIB v. Sebilius.

The vast majority of funding is going nowhere.

You mean the hack that broke the Hatch Act?
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ebelius-violated-law-by-campaigning-for-obama

and btw it was
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Federation_of_Independent_Business_v._Sebelius

 

[dphantom]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/18/politics/kelly-guidance-on-immigration-and-border-security/index.html

What's next?

Concentration Camps? Auschwitz?

I just got done watching a documentary on the Jews and Germany. Sadly, this is how it begins.

nope, won't happen but do not be surprised if the deportations ramp up as they should that Mexico creates concentration camps for them.

 

[Jhhnn]

nope, won't happen but do not be surprised if the deportations ramp up as they should that Mexico creates concentration camps for them.

Wut? Why would Mexico put their own citizens in camps?

Deportees from countries other than Mexico aren't sent there.

 

[Jhhnn]

You mean the hack that broke the Hatch Act?
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ebelius-violated-law-by-campaigning-for-obama

and btw it was
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Federation_of_Independent_Business_v._Sebelius

Speaking of Hack...

 

[Victorian Gray]

Wut? Why would Mexico put their own citizens in camps?

Deportees from countries other than Mexico aren't sent there.

The regime has said that that needs to change.

"In a call with reporters Tuesday morning, DHS officials confirmed they were working on a plan to send migrants who had entered the United States from Mexico back to Mexico, even if they were not citizens of that country."

https://www.propublica.org/article/...sing-mexican-border-regardless-of-nationality

 

[Jhhnn]

The regime has said that that needs to change.

"In a call with reporters Tuesday morning, DHS officials confirmed they were working on a plan to send migrants who had entered the United States from Mexico back to Mexico, even if they were not citizens of that country."

https://www.propublica.org/article/...sing-mexican-border-regardless-of-nationality

Yeh, and Mexico will be paying for the wall, too. Neither is a plan but rather a fantasy.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Yeh, and Mexico will be paying for the wall, too. Neither is a plan but rather a fantasy.

Maybe they'll borrow a page from the Australian playbook and pay Mexico to take them.

 

[Jhhnn]

Maybe they'll borrow a page from the Australian playbook and pay Mexico to take them.

That "people swap" is very much up in the air-

http://www.news.com.au/national/pol...s/news-story/05216b7a957e958ec40a75e4a076ccfc

Trump won't get something for nothing.

 

[Svnla]

The companies told the employees don't do it, they did it anyway and now they are out - https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/20/emp...r-joining-day-without-immigrants-protest.html

 

[Victorian Gray]

That "people swap" is very much up in the air-

http://www.news.com.au/national/pol...s/news-story/05216b7a957e958ec40a75e4a076ccfc

Trump won't get something for nothing.

Wasn't referring to that (although it's related) but to the Australian deal with New Guinea where they pay New Guinea to keep the internment camps for refugees who are trying to get to Australia.

 

[nutxo]

LOL. Im Jewish and Hispanic and I'm not worried.

 

[Jhhnn]

Wasn't referring to that (although it's related) but to the Australian deal with New Guinea where they pay New Guinea to keep the internment camps for refugees who are trying to get to Australia.

That's a dandy fuckover I didn't know about-

http://www.refugeeaction.org.au/?page_id=4528

 

[Victorian Gray]

That's a dandy fuckover I didn't know about-

http://www.refugeeaction.org.au/?page_id=4528

Yeah, it's never been a big draw to the media in N. America. I originally found out a few years back due to an article in The Guardian. It's a despicable policy.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...-sad-story-of-eaten-fish-20170216-gueqa4.html

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...tory-of-mr-eaten-fish-manus-island-cartoonist

 

[agent00f]

It probably feels better that being on the side of the perpetual victim who thinks you are always at a disadvantage because of your race. You seem well educated and able to express yourself. Has society really treated you that bad? I guess you are one that feels like only following laws you like. And I am sure you will come back with "laws are not equally applied to all" because once again you are the victim and treated unfairly. And we do not know what it is like to be like you. And would we be willing to trade places with you. Do you really want equality or do you want special treatment because someone treated minorities badly before I was born. I am sorry I forgot that is what a morally responsible society does.

It's simply a reality that white nationalist types love to put lower status minorities at an disadvantage, and it's very much in your & friends interest to deny the obvious. After all, your predecessors came up with separate but equal, and defended it to the death as a matter of law much as you do here. It's hardly any coincidence your ideology has been predicated as of late on scapegoating various browns, in addition to playing the Real victim here. Enlightenment moral ethics are simply not meant for them.

Also let's not pretend any of the alt-reich here are itching to trade places with any of their disfavored low status targets.

 

[ladyjd]

Everyone talks about enforcing immigration laws but nobody wants to tell the real problem! Go after the businesses that are hiring the illegals and start levying hefty fines, jail times and loss of business and see what happens . People come illegally because rich folks and farmers keep offering them jobs. Start with the POTUS' vineyards and hotels...


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