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PokerGuy

Lifer
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so if a Mexican immigrated to Canada via the US and Canada kicked them out and back to the US, you'd be perfectly fine with that, right?

Yes, it makes perfect sense. Put them back to exactly where they were before coming in. If they came into Canada from the US, they should be returned right back to the US side of the US/Canada border so the US can deal with the problem.
 

Jhhnn

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Yes, it makes perfect sense. Put them back to exactly where they were before coming in. If they came into Canada from the US, they should be returned right back to the US side of the US/Canada border so the US can deal with the problem.

Oh, please. We can't force Mexico to accept anybody not a Mexican citizen. Claiming it as part of our immigration plan is Trumpian bullshit.
 

Zaap

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Oh, please. We can't force Mexico to accept anybody not a Mexican citizen. Claiming it as part of our immigration plan is Trumpian bullshit.
LOL! you've stepped in the deepest bullshit yet with this! You're just too stupid to realise it.

Your sudden pretend concern for Mexico having to deal with non-citizens in their country, while your entire bullshit position is the US accepting non-citizens by default and you always painting that situation as good for the country!

Can you possibly get more full of shit?
 

Zaap

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so if a Mexican immigrated to Canada via the US and Canada kicked them out and back to the US, you'd be perfectly fine with that, right?
Yes. It probably happens all the time. The US should then deport that person back to Mexico or wherever they came from.

It's amazing that some people seem to think nations controlling their borders is some kind of radical thing. Canada doesn't have to accept people sneaking into their country from wherever either.
 

agent00f

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Everyone talks about enforcing immigration laws but nobody wants to tell the real problem! Go after the businesses that are hiring the illegals and start levying hefty fines, jail times and loss of business and see what happens . People come illegally because rich folks and farmers keep offering them jobs. Start with the POTUS' vineyards and hotels...


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The businesses are part of the problem. They should be prosecuted as should the people coming over here illegally.

lol wut, "nobody wants to tell the real problem"? Many people have talked about it, I think that HAS to be part of the solution. As long as there is a lot of demand for illegal low wage labor, the immigrants will continue to come to seek out that opportunity. I'm all in favor of attaching significant/severe penalties for using workers without work permits, that would go a long way towards a solution, but only if you also make it so illegal immigrants can't make use of other services (like schooling, housing, any kind of benefits etc).

It's pretty obvious why the white nationalist platform is all about putting lower class browns in their place with lip service at best paid to Real (ie white) americans involvement.

Obvious because it's been the same story for their entire history.
 

Jhhnn

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LOL! you've stepped in the deepest bullshit yet with this! You're just too stupid to realise it.

Your sudden pretend concern for Mexico having to deal with non-citizens in their country, while your entire bullshit position is the US accepting non-citizens by default and you always painting that situation as good for the country!

Can you possibly get more full of shit?

I'm sure you can't see it but you're completely incoherent. Deporting non-Mexicans to Mexico simply won't happen because Mexico won't accept them. They're under to obligation to do so no matter how profoundly Trumpian propaganda has degraded your cognitive processes.
 

raildogg

Lifer
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It's pretty obvious why the white nationalist platform is all about putting lower class browns in their place with lip service at best paid to Real (ie white) americans involvement.

Obvious because it's been the same story for their entire history.

You have to understand how America was founded in the first place. Bloodshed, racism on a mass scale, even genocide and exploitation of the masses by the few. It is not a surprise that it has continued.

See that Dakota pipeline story about people being removed from the protest site? Manifest Destiny continues. And Manifest Destiny is not just confined to America's borders. It is international.
 

gplracer

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It's pretty obvious why the white nationalist platform is all about putting lower class browns in their place with lip service at best paid to Real (ie white) americans involvement.

Obvious because it's been the same story for their entire history.
I assume from your posts on here you categorize all white people into the same group. They are people looking to hold back minorities, they need to atone for the wrongs of their ancestors, they do not understand the plight of your group and would not change places. Yet you live in a society where there are many African American Groups. I do not see groups with the name "white" on them. No wait that would be racist. The name does not have to be on the group to know they are "white". But it is not racist when your group does it. I notice you never mention the minorities who are racist. Instead you categorize everyone into a racist group who has different beliefs from you. Every time someone on the board says equal rights for EVERYONE you say THEY are part of the problem. I am so sorry you are always the victim and feel your social group needs special treatment to make things right. Have you ever looked in the mirror? Your attitude toward an entire group is a major problem. You would help you group more by speaking out against specific people who treat your group unfairly but denying access to things they deserve as a citizen of this country.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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We're talking about millions of American Citizen children of otherwise law abiding people who just don't have the right paperwork. That's it. That's all that's "wrong" with them.

The children matter more than self righteous bullshit about who should & shouldn't be in this country. Well, unless you're somebody more impressed by xenophobic propaganda than the welfare of American children. Only then can you depersonalize them.

All the ravers need to get over themselves. If Mom, Dad, both or their brothers & sisters get lucky enough to have an American citizen child or sibling just declare them to be winners, give 'em a green card & STFU. I'm confident that it won't be enough trouble for this great country to matter in the slightest.

The exact same argument can be made for non-violent drug offenders. It's not that they don't have the right paperwork, they committed a criminal offense the same as non-violent drug offenders yet we lock millions of them up, taking them away from their families and kids on a continuing and increasing basis.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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I assume from your posts on here you categorize all white people into the same group. They are people looking to hold back minorities, they need to atone for the wrongs of their ancestors, they do not understand the plight of your group and would not change places. Yet you live in a society where there are many African American Groups. I do not see groups with the name "white" on them. No wait that would be racist. The name does not have to be on the group to know they are "white". But it is not racist when your group does it. I notice you never mention the minorities who are racist. Instead you categorize everyone into a racist group who has different beliefs from you. Every time someone on the board says equal rights for EVERYONE you say THEY are part of the problem. I am so sorry you are always the victim and feel your social group needs special treatment to make things right. Have you ever looked in the mirror? Your attitude toward an entire group is a major problem. You would help you group more by speaking out against specific people who treat your group unfairly but denying access to things they deserve as a citizen of this country.

No great surprise white nationalists believe they represent the white race: https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...to-northen-syria.2499453/page-5#post-38751227

I'm speaking of the history of crime which had led to the present situation. In any system of justice, the criminals are most responsible for reparation. But due to those like yourself we couldn't hold the old bigots and their estates responsible, thus that debt fell to everyone else in an ethical society, same as for the family of a man crippled by some perp who can't be brought to justice. It's pretty easy to tell the difference in character between people when it's always the white nationalists who portray themselves as the Real victims for any minor slight.
 

Svnla

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Sea Ray

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gplracer

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No great surprise white nationalists believe they represent the white race: https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...to-northen-syria.2499453/page-5#post-38751227

I'm speaking of the history of crime which had led to the present situation. In any system of justice, the criminals are most responsible for reparation. But due to those like yourself we couldn't hold the old bigots and their estates responsible, thus that debt fell to everyone else in an ethical society, same as for the family of a man crippled by some perp who can't be brought to justice. It's pretty easy to tell the difference in character between people when it's always the white nationalists who portray themselves as the Real victims for any minor slight.

Oh so now I am responsible for now holding old bigots and the estates responsible for something. So........ people who I did not know and have no relation to I am responsible for their actions because I am the same race. You are truly delusional. My only expectations are to be treated the same as everyone else. I also have the same expectation for all others no matter what their race. The fact is that is not taking place. Many minorities are give special privileges and opportunities not afforded to me and my children. I have worked hard for everything in my life and nothing has been given to me. Now I will be in debt. paying for college costs of my kids. While this is happening many minorities make more money that me and they are given special scholarships for their kids because of their color. This is when their financial means are greater than mine. There is no equity in that. Once again you show your true colors with an argument about how we are responsible for the actions of people who have been dead for 50 years. You think in black and white terms. I do not. I think of treating all people equally. I think of getting scholarships and jobs based on merit not race. You are more a racist than the people you condemn. You put all white people in a group and label them as racist and responsible of the situations today. That is what racist do. The define entire ethnic groups as certain way. They do not look at individuals. Racist only see color.
 

alien42

Lifer
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I assume from your posts on here you categorize all white people into the same group. They are people looking to hold back minorities, they need to atone for the wrongs of their ancestors, they do not understand the plight of your group and would not change places. Yet you live in a society where there are many African American Groups. I do not see groups with the name "white" on them. No wait that would be racist. The name does not have to be on the group to know they are "white". But it is not racist when your group does it. I notice you never mention the minorities who are racist. Instead you categorize everyone into a racist group who has different beliefs from you. Every time someone on the board says equal rights for EVERYONE you say THEY are part of the problem. I am so sorry you are always the victim and feel your social group needs special treatment to make things right. Have you ever looked in the mirror? Your attitude toward an entire group is a major problem. You would help you group more by speaking out against specific people who treat your group unfairly but denying access to things they deserve as a citizen of this country.

wow, that's a whole lot of words to just say that you are a racist. do you think that all people who disagree with you aren't white?
 

alien42

Lifer
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My only expectations are to be treated the same as everyone else. I also have the same expectation for all others no matter what their race.

here's the problem, you are completely ignoring history, white privilege is real and as a white person, that is important to recognize.
 

alien42

Lifer
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no just agent00f

i know you don't realize it but your rants just prove your racism. no one says that minorities can't be racists, except ignorant people like you.

i bet you feel persecuted because there is no white history month.
 

MongGrel

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And yet Trump has played 6 rounds of golf in the first 3 weeks, and he's blowing money as fast as he can and partying all over and making money off the taxpayers, and Svlna, Sea Ray, and gplracer think he's really worried about solving those problems.

Grow up, you've been conned.
 

gplracer

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i know you don't realize it but your rants just prove your racism. no one says that minorities can't be racists, except ignorant people like you.

i bet you feel persecuted because there is no white history month.
No black history month was started because many years ago there was little taught about black history in schools.

So I am racist because I want equal rights for me and my children. I never said that minorities can't be racists. I also never blamed any minority group for anything that is wrong with society today. Unlike agent00f I know that there are good and bad people in every race. Unfortunately there will always be people who treat other people who are not like them poorly. Agent00f has blamed white people over and over again for everything that is wrong with inequities in society today. People should be judged on character not race. People should not be categorized by race either.
 

gplracer

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i know you don't realize it but your rants just prove your racism. no one says that minorities can't be racists, except ignorant people like you.

i bet you feel persecuted because there is no white history month.
Can you please point out the place where I said that minorities can't be racists? I do not recall making that comment. If I did obviously it was incorrect. Since I am ignorant I cannot find it. I did say, "I notice you never mention the minorities who are racist." in reference to Agent00f not mentioning that minorities can be racist too when he constantly categorizes all whites as been racist.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Oh so now I am responsible for now holding old bigots and the estates responsible for something. So........ people who I did not know and have no relation to I am responsible for their actions because I am the same race. You are truly delusional. My only expectations are to be treated the same as everyone else. I also have the same expectation for all others no matter what their race. The fact is that is not taking place. Many minorities are give special privileges and opportunities not afforded to me and my children. I have worked hard for everything in my life and nothing has been given to me. Now I will be in debt. paying for college costs of my kids. While this is happening many minorities make more money that me and they are given special scholarships for their kids because of their color. This is when their financial means are greater than mine. There is no equity in that. Once again you show your true colors with an argument about how we are responsible for the actions of people who have been dead for 50 years. You think in black and white terms. I do not. I think of treating all people equally. I think of getting scholarships and jobs based on merit not race. You are more a racist than the people you condemn. You put all white people in a group and label them as racist and responsible of the situations today. That is what racist do. The define entire ethnic groups as certain way. They do not look at individuals. Racist only see color.

Let's make this real simple:

A terrible crime has been committed against many people, subjugating them into a near permanent underclass, and we know who's responsible.

Any person with minimal moral ethics would take those responsible and make them pay, and should that be impossible due to said white nationalist pieces of shit, any moral society would do what it can to help rectify the situation. But you & said klan friends know that moral ethics aren't meant for y'all, and thus do the exact opposite of blaming the victims, blaming the people who believe that underclass deserves some recompense. Anything but blaming those ideological peers who still do what they can to target lower status minorities.

These are in no uncertain terms just about the worst people out there by any moral standard, and you have the audacity to pretend otherwise.
 

Puffnstuff

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Entering someone's country illegally is akin to driving without a license. You might get away with it for a while but sooner or later you're bound to get caught and when you do there's a price to pay for breaking the law. Stop crying over these people who made a conscience choice to break our laws and enter our country illegally. Send them all home and let them apply for entry the right and legal way. Case closed.