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ivwshane

Lifer
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I don't have a cult.I'm no raving fan of Trump no matter how many times you say it.

1, Comey should have taken it to a grand jury in the first place.
2. He stupidly dropped the investigation.
3. Then adding more stupidity opened it again publicly, before he knew what was going on. Then had to choke it back again.

Comey is a hand puppet of the administration.

What does your Coven Leader have to say about it?

Oh you aren't a cult leader! I'm not sure why you thought that. You are however a member of a cult, you may not know it yet but your aversion to reality already has you indoctrinated.

Lol at a grand jury. Obviously your only concern is dragging out this bullshit to give your cult leader a better chance.

How fitting you used the term coven because you know yourself that claims against Hillary are indeed a witch hunt.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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This election has such bad choices. Bad vs. Worse. The best one could have hoped for was Trump wins then does something stupid like call for the genocide of Muslims, gets impeached and Mike Pence becomes president and ends up being a great president...or Hillary wins, gets convicted of giving away secrets through faux email foibles, gets impeached and Tim Kaine becomes a great president.

Ah, the fantasies of stupid, low information voters.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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Oh you aren't a cult leader! I'm not sure why you thought that. You are however a member of a cult, you may not know it yet but your aversion to reality already has you indoctrinated.

Lol at a grand jury. Obviously your only concern is dragging out this bullshit to give your cult leader a better chance.

How fitting you used the term coven because you know yourself that claims against Hillary are indeed a witch hunt.

No cult nor am I a member of one.

I'm not saying she is guilty or not. I'm saying that the entire mess was never Properly Investigated. Comey confirmed this when he made deals all around with her staff and in his initial statements of the classified e-mails in improper places and confirmed her lies to congress and the FBI. Then refused to request a grand jury.

I used the term coven as she is a witch. No hunting needed.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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No cult nor am I a member of one.

I'm not saying she is guilty or not. I'm saying that the entire mess was never Properly Investigated. Comey confirmed this when he made deals all around with her staff and in his initial statements of the classified e-mails in improper places and confirmed her lies to congress and the FBI. Then refused to request a grand jury.

I used the term coven as she is a witch. No hunting needed.

Thanks for proving my point!
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
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Now that this situation has played out, can we abandon all conversation regarding leaky weiners? Ew. Seriously.
 

disappoint

Lifer
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Ah, the fantasies of stupid, low information voters.

It would be best for the nation but I suppose you wouldn't want that. You just want your team to win. You know that team that you are so accustomed to cheerleading for all this time that you've lost focus of what would be best for the nation. Low information indeed. Let us know when you're ready to put away the pom-poms and use your imagination a bit. You're not doing your side any favors by resorting to ad-hominem attacks, also known as the lowest of the low in debate skills.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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It would be best for the nation but I suppose you wouldn't want that. You just want your team to win. You know that team that you are so accustomed to cheerleading for all this time that you've lost focus of what would be best for the nation. Low information indeed. Let us know when you're ready to put away the pom-poms and use your imagination a bit. You're not doing your side any favors by resorting to ad-hominem attacks, also known as the lowest of the low in debate skills.

Team? My team is called reality. My team doesn't think compromise is a dirty word. My team relies on facts, logic, and history to guide it's decision making process. My team doesn't believe in anyone ideology. My team understands that the founding fathers purposefully put in place a process by which our government progresses slowly. My team doesn't have an R or a D after its name but is willing to embrace anyone who does so long as they try and adhere to the principals mentioned above.

The fact remains, you and people like you are a threat to our democracy (or any democracy really) regardless of what party they may be affiliated with. What's best for the nation certainly isn't making a mockery of our democracy. Logic and facts don't seem to move you so resorting to ad-hominems is a last resort. If you don't want to be called stupid then stop posting stupid shit.
 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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No cult nor am I a member of one.

I'm not saying she is guilty or not. I'm saying that the entire mess was never Properly Investigated. Comey confirmed this when he made deals all around with her staff and in his initial statements of the classified e-mails in improper places and confirmed her lies to congress and the FBI. Then refused to request a grand jury.

I used the term coven as she is a witch. No hunting needed.

No matter what, you'll work to keep the conspiracy theory going, obviously. It's mighty presumptuous of you to believe that you somehow know better than the professionals who actually conducted the investigation & dealt with the evidence rather than the speculation & innuendo of a sensationalist media.

Your bias is obvious when you contend that she lied to the FBI, something that obviously didn't happen. If that were provable, she'd be indicted for that regardless of the rest, like Martha Stewart & Scooter Libby.

If it had gone to a grand jury for no indictment, you'd claim it was improperly conducted. Had it gone to trial for a not guilty verdict, you'd say the same thing.

Because Hillary- she's obviously guilty in your mind & nothing will dispel that notion.
 

Thump553

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The FBI is an investigative agency, it has absolutely no power to bring any case before a grand jury. That power is the prosecutor's office. Comey's position all along is that based on the evidence the FBI found no reasonable prosecutor would have brought the case. Comey ended up with the exclusive power to make that decision due to Bill Clinton's foolish ex parte conversation with the Attorney General.

This whole email thing was a stupid tempest in a teapot to begin with. If Hillary ended up being prosecuted she would have her two immediate predecessors testifying at trial they did the exact same thing. Colin Powell would have to testify it was HIS idea and that he urged Hillary to do the same thing several times because the government's system was so poor.

Historians in the future are going to look back on this and Benghazi and classify them as moronic "scandals" pursued solely for partisan advantage, fiddling while Rome burns. I wish the GOP would shift their priorities to what they feel is right for this country, rather than what is right for their party. Another prime example of this is the nearly universal failure of nearly all sitting GOP politicians to take a principled stand and denounce Trump.
 
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dank69

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It would be best for the nation but I suppose you wouldn't want that. You just want your team to win. You know that team that you are so accustomed to cheerleading for all this time that you've lost focus of what would be best for the nation. Low information indeed. Let us know when you're ready to put away the pom-poms and use your imagination a bit. You're not doing your side any favors by resorting to ad-hominem attacks, also known as the lowest of the low in debate skills.
His attack has nothing to do with teams. The fact that you think Kaine, or especially Pence would make good Presidents immediately exposes you as ignorant. Pence, the guy who wants to make it law that Women who have abortions AND MISCARRIAGES must hold a funeral for the clump of dead cells would make a great President.
 

Homerboy

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My favorite thing (actually it really depresses me) is reading the alt-right stuff on Facebook and the ridiculous posts and comments people make.
I love the fact that many of them don't understand how 650,000 emails could be gone through in 8 days, and when I mention "computers" they literally can't comprehend how computers could be used to decide such things.
 

fskimospy

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My favorite thing (actually it really depresses me) is reading the alt-right stuff on Facebook and the ridiculous posts and comments people make.
I love the fact that many of them don't understand how 650,000 emails could be gone through in 8 days, and when I mention "computers" they literally can't comprehend how computers could be used to decide such things.

In an amazing NYT article from this weekend Trump apparently didn't want to spend any money on digital ads because he doesn't use computers and therefore never saw them, so it would be right in line with his supporters not knowing that computers can be used to... compute things.

Mr. Trump, who does not use a computer, rails against the campaign’s expenditure of tens of millions on digital ads, skeptical that spots he never sees could have any effect.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/us/politics/donald-trump-presidential-race.html?ref=politics

He also apparently demanded to include that bizarre line in a speech about how he is going to sue all his accusers and has been spending considerable time trying to come up with ways to get revenge on people who he thinks have wronged him during the election. The guy is just so mentally unstable it's scary. I genuinely don't know how anyone could work on his campaign in good conscience.
 

Sonikku

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It almost doesn't matter that the FBI made this announcement at this point because it takes a few days for things to really seep into voters minds and by the time it does the election will be be wrapping up.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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My favorite thing (actually it really depresses me) is reading the alt-right stuff on Facebook and the ridiculous posts and comments people make.
I love the fact that many of them don't understand how 650,000 emails could be gone through in 8 days, and when I mention "computers" they literally can't comprehend how computers could be used to decide such things.

What the alt-right understands is that Conflict (or the appearance thereof) is attention. Attention is influence. The truth doesn't matter. If they thought they could build a brand & get rich raving about flying unicorns they'd do it.
 

dank69

Lifer
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It almost doesn't matter that the FBI made this announcement at this point because it takes a few days for things to really seep into voters minds and by the time it does the election will be be wrapping up.
Comey must have made a killing though. First he was paid by Republicans to investigate her, then she paid him more to say no charges, then the GOP paid him some more to investigate again and Hillary immediately paid him even more to close it again. The guy can probably retire in style.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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My favorite thing (actually it really depresses me) is reading the alt-right stuff on Facebook and the ridiculous posts and comments people make.
I love the fact that many of them don't understand how 650,000 emails could be gone through in 8 days, and when I mention "computers" they literally can't comprehend how computers could be used to decide such things.
That really does crack me up. It all digital data, its all searchable. That means you can quickly determine what emails out of those 650,000 you then need to look closer at. Then you do more refined searches, all at the speed of modern computers. For those
Digital Data for Dummies types, think about those emails and using Google as your search tool.
 
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That really does crack me up. It all digital data, its all searchable. That means you can quickly determine what emails out of those 650,000 you then need to look closer at. Then you do more refined searches, all at the speed of modern computers. For those
Digital Data for Dummies types, think about those emails and using Google as your search tool.

You may not even need that, all we know is emails from Hillary were found on that device. We don't know how many and we don't know how many were duplicates. We could be talking about a handful of emails from her. Nobody has said the 650k emails were all hers.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
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My favorite thing (actually it really depresses me) is reading the alt-right stuff on Facebook and the ridiculous posts and comments people make.
I love the fact that many of them don't understand how 650,000 emails could be gone through in 8 days, and when I mention "computers" they literally can't comprehend how computers could be used to decide such things.

You should really dive into the #spiritcooking folks on twitter (if you haven't seen it already). Some epic level single-digit IQ stuff there.
 

Homerboy

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You should really dive into the #spiritcooking folks on twitter (if you haven't seen it already). Some epic level single-digit IQ stuff there.

I have sadly seen it. It's just way too low of a denominator for me to even comprehend let alone stomach.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
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I have sadly seen it. It's just way too low of a denominator for me to even comprehend let alone stomach.

Well, it's what we'll be dealing with starting about 930 tomorrow night. Better get used to it.
 

uallas5

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My favorite thing (actually it really depresses me) is reading the alt-right stuff on Facebook and the ridiculous posts and comments people make.
I love the fact that many of them don't understand how 650,000 emails could be gone through in 8 days, and when I mention "computers" they literally can't comprehend how computers could be used to decide such things.

Just tell them to ask Barron, the cyber king, how they were able to do it.
 
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trenchfoot

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"But anything, ANYTHING is better than having Hillary as President. Just don't ask me why, because all I need to know is that right thinking, good honest people just like me and of whom I trust, told me so."

And IMO, that circular swirl right there is one of the main reasons why Trump, of all people, has any chance at all to be our next POTUS.
 

bshole

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It almost doesn't matter that the FBI made this announcement at this point because it takes a few days for things to really seep into voters minds and by the time it does the election will be be wrapping up.

Comey certainly timed it for maximum political damage. Did he lone wolf this thing or was there collusion with the Trump campaign? He may have committed a rather serious federal crime by his actions and may have more than his job on the line....