The hell? Fox News is a "most trusted brand"?????

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Harvey

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Fox beats the hell out of Communist News Network.
I just searched Google for Communist News Network. It doesn't exist so you'll have to find another subject for your paranoia. :p
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Fox beats the hell out of Communist News Network.
I just searched Google for Communist News Network. It doesn't exist so you'll have to find another subject for your paranoia. :p

I just searched for Faux News and didn't find any such network.
 

Moonbeam

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America died and has been taken over by Fox News watching zombies. They trust it to make sure they stay dead.
 
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I can't believe that people get so irate over this subject. (Well, actually I can... but that is another issue).

In our lifetimes we have gone from only having a half hour of news at 6pm on only three networks to having over a dozen major, 24 hour all-news networks. We even have 24 hour SPORTS news channels and financial news channels.

With so many choices available it shouldn't be a surprise that people now shop for their news sources like they choose magazines. They choose the channels that interest them or cater to their particular point of view on certain issues. With that in mind, Fox is #1.

It's interesting to me that people have so much outright hatred for one channel. Why? Because, editorially, it tends to lean right? So what? Or is it that Fox leans right editorially AND is the #1 rated news network? My guess is that if Fox was an also-ran news network like MSNBC nobody would care.

But y'know... If you don't like it, there are pleanty of other news networks to watch.

BTW... The same complaints that a lot of you make about Fox were made about CNN when Clinton was president. Word for word in some cases... Interesting.
 

ericlp

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I can believe that in "america" fox news is the most trested... All the religious phreaks watch it. So why not? I think it is true since over half of america is christain camp.

Me? I perfer front line or PBS / BBC ... I mostly get my news from google news. Since it's so waterd down. I have a hard time trusting "anyone"... But PBS/NPR has a lot of news come in off the christain science monitor. That doesn't sit right with me at all. Tho, I listen to NPR on the way to work.

I don't really know. Google news is pretty current and no ads. I use to watch ABC/CBS but not anymore. Like I said you can't trust it and half the time they will sit on both sides of the fence as to not upset anyone or they might be afraid the big brother will want to know where they got the story and who leaked it out.

 

jlmadyson

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The Fox News Effect, Wins Bush FLA in 2000?

We report. You decide. Does President Bush owe his controversial win in 2000 to Fox cable television news?

Yes, suggest data collected by two economists who found that the growth of the Fox cable news network in the late 1990s may have significantly boosted the Republican Party's share of the vote in the 2000 election and delivered Florida to Bush.

"Our estimates imply that Fox News convinced 3 to 8 percent of its audience to shift its voting behavior towards the Republican Party, a sizable media persuasion effect," said Stefano DellaVigna of the University of California at Berkely and Ethan Kaplan of Stockholm University.

In Florida alone, they estimate, the Fox effect may have produced more than 10,000 additional votes for Bush -- clearly a decisive factor in a state he carried by fewer than 600 votes.

Fox cable news debuted in 1996 as a competitor to CNN and four years later was available to about one in five Americans. That allowed DellaVigna and Kaplan to compare changes in the Republican vote shar efrom 1996 to 2000 in 9,256 cities and towns where Fox News was introduced. They also examined election cdata from 2004.

The Experiment: The Fox Effect II

We experiment. You decide: Do people apply a political litmus test to the news?

Yes, suggest the results of the latest online experiment by The Washington Post, washingtonpost.com and Stanford University's political communication lab.

The test found Republicans preferred to get their news from Fox -- even when the news stories were about subjects far removed from politics, such as sports or travel.

On the other hand, Democrats avoided Fox when it came to political news and preferred National Public Radio and CNN. And when the news focused on controversial issues such as the Iraq war and politics, "partisans are especially likely to screen out sources they consider opposed to their political views," said Stanford professor Shanto Iyengar, director of the communication lab.

More than 2,000 people participated in the test of whether attention to the identical news story was increased or decreased when the story was attributed to Fox News, NPR, CNN or the BBC. Participants saw a brief headline accompanied by the logo of the news organization. They were asked to choose which story they wanted to see, then repeated the task across six news categories -- American politics, the war in Iraq, race in America, crime, travel and sports.

There was one twist: Some participants saw a story attributed to Fox, whereas others saw the same story attributed to CNN, NPR or the BBC. Comparing the percentage of Democrats who chose to see a story about race if it was on Fox vs. CNN offered clues about whether partisanship mattered.

The results found strong evidence that people apply a political litmus test to the news, avoiding sources they view as unfriendly while seeking out compatible sources, a finding confirmed by researchers at Polimetrix in a national study with a representative sample of adults done in cooperation with the Stanford lab.

The Republicans even preferred to get news about sports and travel from Fox while Democrats didn't have as strong a preference on non-political stories, Iyengar found.

Fair and balanced.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
FOX delivers their pablum aimed at the lowest common denominator - the 34% who suck up to the Bush Administration.
Remember that - the AVERAGE AMERICAN . . . and half the population is even dumber than that.

Now again, those who want their paranoid, baseless fears and their biggoted, spiteful view of the world re-inforced
will seek the News outlet that provides them the coverage that they want - regardless of the truth or facts.

FOX is nothing less than a semi-official house organ style mouthpeice for the GOP Agenda, it was built that way.

And CNN is for the Democratic Party. Yet you never hear people whining about it. Remember the X on Cheney?
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Fern
Not to pick on Harvey, but this a common problem here (confusing news reporting with opinion pieces or shows) and then complaining about it. O'Reilly is NOT a news broadcast. It's an "opinion" show, a show about HIS opinion.
OK. Would you prefer I pick up on a dildo brained air head like Brit Hume?

The fact is, EVERYTHING on fox is an opinion, whether they call it "news" or not. :roll:

LOL Brit Hume's show is hugely successful and is growing. You can whine more.

The fact is, CNN also has opinions, yet you don't whine about that.
 

MAW1082

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Yeah, I guess I'm going to have to go with the NY Times, even after that whole fake reporting thing . . .
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: MAW1082
Yeah, I guess I'm going to have to go with the NY Times, even after that whole fake reporting thing . . .

Still the best newspaper in America even though it is among the most biased. It has more content and diverse news stories and nothing comes close. Except the WSJ, but that is slightly different.
 

stinkz

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When I read the same opinion of Fox News stated over and over again mindlessly in this thread, I chuckle when the opinion ironically contains the word "brainwashed."

Of course the left cannot see the bias in their own reporting because they themselves are so incredibly biased.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: stinkz
When I read the same opinion of Fox News stated over and over again mindlessly in this thread, I chuckle when the opinion ironically contains the word "brainwashed."

Of course the left cannot see the bias in their own reporting because they themselves are so incredibly biased.



The lefts reporting? what reporting? internet blogs? none of the mainstream media reports any of that stuff. Hell, look at the colbert thing, Problem is you all are so far gone you think whatever the corporate news put out that isn't blowing bush is leftist.

Most "leftists" I know gave up on the TV as a source of news years ago with all the corporate mergers of media.

Foxnews is just the new soviet pravada, a mouthpiece of the government wired straight into rove's fax machine. The rest of them parrot what fox says to varying degrees, the message is all the same though.
 

cker

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No matter what you think of Fox News's editorial bias, it resonates with a pretty large segment of the population. I rented a room from a guy who got up every morning to watch Fox and Friends, and relied on Fox News for all his information. Fox actually does a pretty good job of reporting news events, though they have a pro-administration tone to their reporting. The catch is that most of the programming on Fox News is not news -- it's commentary.

In my opinion, though, looking to the television for a reasonable and coherent news awareness is ridiculous. Television as a medium is contrary to understanding. Any TV news ends up being sound bites, news flashes, decontextualized data, all with a slant to make it controversial or interesting. If it ain't local human-interest or the weather, I don't bother with TV for news. Neil Postman's excellent book, _Amusing_Ourselves_to_Death_, really highlighted to me why good TV news just ain't gonna happen.
 

trenchfoot

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No matter what you think of Fox News's editorial bias, it resonates with a pretty large segment of the population. I rented a room from a guy who got up every morning to watch Fox and Friends, and relied on Fox News for all his information. Fox actually does a pretty good job of reporting news events, though they have a pro-administration tone to their reporting. The catch is that most of the programming on Fox News is not news -- it's commentary.
i agree in most part. however, therein lies a dig....the pro-administration tone, or rather the pro neocon tone they employ. fox does not report any news or commentary solely for the sake of informing the public, they will report and comment on news using "truthiness" with the subtle insidious intent of making us see things "their way".

most of their news reporting and commentary will include an unspoken message that when repeated over and over will eventually turn a person's opinion around without them ever realizing it. subterfuge never had a more bonafide and legitimate-looking facade than the daily foxnews magic show.

it's not the overtly neocon programming they lay out as bait that changes a fence-sitter's mind in their favor, it's the psychological warfare they employ that does it.

their mantra may as well be "trust us...we never lie...we just tell the truth in our own special way so we can own you."
 

Jeff7

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We report. You decide.

Bush decides. We report.
:D


Fox knows marketing. They churn through TV show after TV show. It's a kind of datamining - they know exactly what America likes to watch, so they can tailor their news reports to appeal directly to that audience.
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Fern
Not to pick on Harvey, but this a common problem here (confusing news reporting with opinion pieces or shows) and then complaining about it. O'Reilly is NOT a news broadcast. It's an "opinion" show, a show about HIS opinion.
OK. Would you prefer I pick up on a dildo brained air head like Brit Hume?

The fact is, EVERYTHING on fox is an opinion, whether they call it "news" or not. :roll:

Yeah, he'd be fair game. He & Sheppard Smith (I think that's his name?) are "news" shows instead of the stuff like O'Reilly, et al.

Although I do like the Hume show, mostly the panel at the last 15 minutes. I enjoy Mara, Fred, Mort, Juan & Jeff. Don't really care for Cece or whatever her name is. It's the one panel/group that doesn't devolve into a screaming match
 

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My favorite part of Fox News is the part near the end of each O'Reilly show where he kills and eats a live guest. That's worth tuning in.
 

daveymark

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Jeff7
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One-quarter of consumers abandoned a news source over the past year because they lost trust in its reporting, according to a new survey that also found the BBC, Fox News and Al Jazeera the most trusted brands in their respective home regions.


Unfortunately the article doesn't go into much more detail on the Fox News thing....but again. What the hell????

Who do you trust? MSNBC?

More than likely it's the Daily Show :laugh: