The GTX 780, 770, 760 ti Thread *First review leaked $700+?*

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Fx1

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Except VI is not a new architecture at all, it is an evolution rather than a revolution.

The performance always comes from more transistors. GPU's are very parelel and that means the more cores you add the more work the GPU can do.

With 20nm you can add more cores which means more FPS
 

Jaydip

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The performance always comes from more transistors. GPU's are very parelel and that means the more cores you add the more work the GPU can do.

With 20nm you can add more cores which means more FPS

Weren't you complaining that Titan doesn't scale according to it's transistor count? then why do you put so much faith on VI ? :)
 

Stuka87

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Hopefully AMD's driver division does a better job with the new arch this time around than they did with the 7000 release.

Volcanic Islands is not a new architecture. Its the next iteration of GCN. It is highly unlikely there will be any big driver issues as there was when moving from VLIW to GCN.
 

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He doesn't. Just more nonsense.

He's probably right, AMD's $499 20nm card could have Titan like gaming performance (die shrink a 7970, up the stream processor count to 3072 and give it a boost in clockspeed and you're basically there). Of course it won't be available until 12 months after Titan's release so it's kind of the amount of performance you'd expect.
 
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Fx1

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Weren't you complaining that Titan doesn't scale according to it's transistor count? then why do you put so much faith on VI ? :)

Because Titan was designed to be a Pro chip and probably has a ton of transistors dedicated to non graphics tasks. Thats the only way the performance of that 7.1bln transistor chip can be explained.
 

Rvenger

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With 20nm looming for a possible 2013 release. I am not touching anything new 28nm right now.
 

MrK6

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With 20nm looming for a possible 2013 release. I am not touching anything new 28nm right now.
This. Considering the current trend of hardware I'm just going to upgrade with each shrink. The architecture-only improvements simply aren't enough to warrant the time spent switching the cards.
 

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20nm AMD 8970 $499 will beat ALL of them with performance to spare

LOL. You need to chill a bit, mate. It's going to be a while yet before we see 20nm graphics cards.

I think the announcement for VI has come now because AMD needs something to counter these nVidia rumors. These rumors also make AMD feel confident that they can now show their hand. We're likely looking at +6mos. before we see VI.
 

Aikouka

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A high end 20nm GPU beats a high end 28nm GPU? Say it ain't so!

Um, the only thing that I can claim with 100% certainty in a bout between an unknown 20nm GPU and a known 28nm GPU is that one has larger transistors than the other. You can sure as heck make a lot of speculation, but that does us pretty much... no good at all.
 

wand3r3r

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GTX 770 and GTX 780 Pictured, along with some updated pricing information--

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-pictured-equipped-gtx-titan-cooler/

Argh....

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The raping continues.

580 - $550, (680 labeled titan) $1000
570 - $350, (670 labeled 780) $700-760
560 ti - $300, (660 ti labeled 680, relabeled again as 770) $500, a year later $400?

The 770 replacing the 680 is essentially the same price. ($450 only dropping to $400)

Enjoy the premiums.
 
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Rvenger

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They are just rebadging the entire 6xx line basically. GTX 680 is now the GTX 770. Cut down Titan is a 780. Are there any architectural enhancements at all??


What bs this is... I will get my $5 copy of Metro Last night in 2 months.
 

willomz

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Isn't that just speculation about what chips were originally going to go in which SKU?

Why does it even matter anyway?
All that matters is price and performance (and power, temps, etc.)
 

Grooveriding

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Argh....

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The raping continues.

580 - $550, (680 labeled titan) $1000
570 - $350, (670 labeled 780) $700-760
560 ti - $300, (660 ti labeled 680, relabeled again as 770) $500, a year later $400?

The 770 replacing the 680 is essentially the same price. ($450 only dropping to $400)

Enjoy the premiums.

If the 770 does actually cost $399 it will be a good deal for that price with 10-15% more performance than a 680 and that cooler. Looks like the only thing missing from the cooler is the light on top, which is useless end of the day, the cooler its self is good.

The rest are more of the same backdoor rapes though. The 770 will be a good card at $400 as the exception to the rest. I was expecting $450 and it to directly replace the 680 price.
 

wand3r3r

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If the 770 does actually cost $399 it will be a good deal for that price with 10-15% more performance than a 680 and that cooler. Looks like the only thing missing from the cooler is the light on top, which is useless end of the day, the cooler its self is good.

The rest are more of the same backdoor rapes though. The 770 will be a good card at $400 as the exception to the rest. I was expecting $450 and it to directly replace the 680 price.

A $50 drop will only match the 7970 GHz in both price and performance. I disagree about the 'value' a year later.
 

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Why does everyone get so hung up on naming systems? So what if there aren't any major architectural changes, as long as there is some improvement then that has to be good right?

If you can pick up a slightly better 680 for slightly less money then it may only be a small win, but it's still a win.

If you prefer to wait for Maxwell/VI then that's entirely up to you.
 

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If the 770 does actually cost $399 it will be a good deal for that price with 10-15% more performance than a 680 and that cooler. Looks like the only thing missing from the cooler is the light on top, which is useless end of the day, the cooler its self is good.

The rest are more of the same backdoor rapes though. The 770 will be a good card at $400 as the exception to the rest. I was expecting $450 and it to directly replace the 680 price.

The 770 would be a nice upgrade for those of us who doesn't have an 670/680. The 780 looks underwhelming...
 

Rvenger

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A $50 drop will only match the 7970 GHz in both price and performance. I disagree about the 'value' a year later.


If the 770 launches with 2gb GDDR5, it contradicts Nvidia's statement about more VRAM. No card at that the $399 tier should have 2gb VRAM, period. They are being cheap!


If it has 4gb VRAM, then I might be tempted but we'll see I guess.
 

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If the 770 launches with 2gb GDDR5, it contradicts Nvidia's statement about more VRAM. No card at that tier should have 2gb VRAM, period. They are being cheap!

I totally agree with this! I guess we will have to wait to see if this turns out to be true I'm interested in to see the GTX 770 (pricing & performance) before I pick up another 7950. No way would I pruchase a 770 with only 2GB imo.
 
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