"The GTX 680 was supposed to be the GTX 660"

[Homeles]

GF110(GTX580) is larger than GK104(GTX680) and still the GK104(GTX680) is faster ?? now tell me that you know how the GPUs are working :whiste:

Really, I am at disbelief with how clueless you are.

And a dead horse gets beaten some more

Another comment completely devoid of any intellectual thought.

 

[richaron]

I just read all this thread. I now feel like stabbing myself in the eyelid with a rusty nail, but not till I feedz teh systum.

1. GK104 is an evolution of a mid range chip.

2. People aren't happy paying premium price for less silicon (& neutered compute), simply because it games at a certain level*.

So saying.. it's always supply/demand which defines the price, & there are plenty of "people" jumping to buy. I'm personally not going to support nV's policies.

*You're dreaming if you don't think these guys have some info on their competitions upcoming products.

 

[cmdrdredd]

However, compared to the performance plus provided by previous highend cards, it falls flat on its face. And performance has very well to do with die size. You cannot clock a chip too high due to power consumption. Going wider (and bigger) is always more sensible. GK104 doesn't have the characteristics of its predecessors, namely big die size, more power hungry but a good deal more powerful. Imagine if the 7970 and the 680 were 5% faster than their predecessors and cost $500 and nothing faster existed. Would that make them highend, really? Where do you draw the line? Just because something is fastest and most expensive doesn't make it high end. You have to account from where a chip family comes from, not just look at the present and blissfully ignore everything else. Take a hard look at the GTX670 PCB and tell us again that GK104 is highend...

Ok??? It's faster than the 580 which was previous high end from Nvidia, and if compared in stock form it's pretty much better than the 7970.

What's hard to understand about that? You are getting the performance that comes with it's price point. It doesn't matter what you think, doesn't matter if you hate Nvidia, doesn't matter what some rumor said, doesn't matter what the PCB looks like, doesn't matter the transistor count, doesn't matter the die size, and it certainly doesn't matter if fanboys are upset by it. That is not how retail works and it's not how marketing works. If you can bring out a product that competes with another and beats it in a lot of ways, the pricing isn't going to be $300 vs $500+ for the competition just because you think it should be.

 

[lavaheadache]

Really, I am at disbelief with how clueless you are.


Another comment completely devoid of any intellectual thought.

All you are doing is systematically calling every one in this thread stupid.

What do you want from me?

How are any of the things I said idiotic or show that I'm clueless?

Hate much?

 

[ViRGE]

And we're done here.
-ViRGE