The GQP is a clear and present danger

[MrSquished]

It's time to end this experiment. Let us cut the cancer that is the South from the Union. Let the other red states join them, and move on.

Women's rights - down the toilet.
Voting rights - down the toilet.
Fascism - being embraced openly by the GQP.
Trumpism - a belief system based on lying as much as possible. Embraced.
Delegitimizing Democracy - check check check.

There is no other solution. It's time to split the country in two and cut our losses.

Moved from OT to P&N
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[bbhaag]

P&N is the other way bro....did you get lost and take a wrong turn?

 

[MrSquished]

P&N is the other way bro....did you get lost and take a wrong turn?

I did. Posting while gaming leads to errors.

Mods please move this thread.

Hey, aren't you the oblivious independent that thinks Trump hasn't tried to undermine, delegitimize and overthrow democracy?

 

[Torn Mind]

Better to have a conflicting parties than mono-party rule of any sort, especially for the biggest purse in the land.

 

[bbhaag]

I did. Posting while gaming leads to errors.

Mods please move this thread.

Hey, aren't you the oblivious independent that thinks Trump hasn't tried to undermine, delegitimize and overthrow democracy?

I figured as much....happens to me to. haha

But no, I'm the oblivious independent that likes to remind arrogant and condescending assholes like you that you're an arrogant and condescending asshole.

 

[MrSquished]

I figured as much....happens to me to. haha

But no, I'm the oblivious independent that likes to remind arrogant and condescending assholes like you that you're an arrogant and condescending asshole.

Nah dude. Your just ign'nt.

Your posts in p&n show a total lack of understanding of the reality of the GQP party.

Being called arrogant by you is a compliment. My awareness may come across as arrogant, and that's ok. So thanks. I will sleep easier tonight

 

[rmacd02]

bbhaag,
I think you have you confused with someone else.

 

[dank69]

Better to have a conflicting parties than mono-party rule of any sort, especially for the biggest purse in the land.

We will never have one party rule unless our voting system is changed. If one party cannot win anymore, it will have to change or it will be replaced. It is the inevitable result of first-past-the-post systems like ours.

Oddly enough, the GOP is doing everything it can to rig the current system in its favor. It cannot win without more and more institutionalized thumbs on the scale for them. They've lost the popular vote 7 of the last 8 times for President. The Democrats can't maintain a majority in the House without winning the popular vote by 3-5%. Shameful. I don't even like Democrats all that much but anyone that hasn't voted for them like their lives have depended on it for the past 2 decades either isn't paying attention or has scrambled eggs in their skull.

 

[woolfe9998]

I'm fully in favor of splitting the country but I don't really know how it's even possible. Where would you draw a line on the map to make two fully contiguous countries with all red states in one and all blue states in another? And what happens to the purple states?

 

[vi edit]

I'm fully in favor of splitting the country but I don't really know how it's even possible. Where would you draw a line on the map to make two fully contiguous countries with all red states in one and all blue states in another? And what happens to the purple states?

We can just take the PNW and NE states + Cali and be annexed by Canada. Give the rest to Freedumville. Most of us wanted better health care plans anyway.

 

[woolfe9998]

We can just take the PNW and NE states + Cali and be annexed by Canada. Give the rest to Freedumville. Most of us wanted better health care plans anyway.

Who gets the nuclear arsenal? I sure as shit wouldn't want them to get any of it. They'd be more likely to use it than N. Korea.

 

[gothuevos]

Logistically impossible.

The vast majority of people wouldn't have the means to pack up and move to their preferred country, find new employment, etc. It would be a humanitarian and housing crisis.

And that's nothing to say of how to divide infrastructure, law enforcement/military, healthcare providers, etc. How do you maintain basic shipping lines? And probably a hundred other issues we haven't even considered yet.

I think we are stuck with our future GOP overlords.

 

[vi edit]

Easier fix is national vote(or enough states opting into an EC popular vote wall that's effectively a national vote) and brining PR and DC into statehood. At least balance things a bit.

 

[TheVrolok]

Easier fix is national vote(or enough states opting into an EC popular vote wall that's effectively a national vote) and brining PR and DC into statehood. At least balance things a bit.

And consideration of adjustments to the senate in similar ways to equalize representation instead of continuing to give Republicans over representation.

 

[A///]

@gothuevos makes a good point. I actually had no idea we had IDPs in the US until I looked at some charts a while back. With Ida rolling through we'll have even more. The concept of IDPs in the US sounds almost too foreign to be true, but here we are.

 

[kage69]

Oof. Let's hope the 'money first' crowd doesn't want to return to the days of petulant chaos created by a demented bullshit artist

https://imgur.com/b2Q3bZW

 

[vi edit]

And consideration of adjustments to the senate in similar ways to equalize representation instead of continuing to give Republicans over representation.

But TheVrolok, those 2 million people between ND/SD/WY and their 6 senate votes are constitutionally entitled to the same voting power as the 70+ million people in NY, CA, and IL.

 

[MrSquished]

Logistically impossible.

The vast majority of people wouldn't have the means to pack up and move to their preferred country, find new employment, etc. It would be a humanitarian and housing crisis.

And that's nothing to say of how to divide infrastructure, law enforcement/military, healthcare providers, etc. How do you maintain basic shipping lines? And probably a hundred other issues we haven't even considered yet.

I think we are stuck with our future GOP overlords.

I refuse to concede that we have to be stuck with the fascist regressives. There may be blood but we must remove the cancer

 

[soulcougher73]

I dont see splitting the country ever working. Even if we some how did, 100 years down the road we’d probably be back in the same boat, wanting to split again from the crazies of the world.

 

[Indus]

I dont see splitting the country ever working. Even if we some how did, 100 years down the road we’d probably be back in the same boat, wanting to split again from the crazies of the world.

Why do people get divorced?

10 years down the line.. will they probably want another divorce?

Is that the reason you should always stay in a marriage no matter what even if you're going insane and not even treated as a human being?

 

[rommelrommel]

Solidly progressive state residents need to make a project of moving to either turn the least populated red states or the closest purple states.

 

[MrSquished]

Countries split up, countries are created. Look at the Soviet Union. Yugoslavia. This is not unprecedented.

It may be bloody. But when you have a cancer as bad and as deep as the GQP, the painful treatment must happen.

It would be better for many millions to not live under fascist regressive rule in the new Union, and millions of others that are left in the Confederacy unwillingly, to at least have an option of moving to the Union of sanity that would remain.

 

[brandonbull]

Easier fix is national vote(or enough states opting into an EC popular vote wall that's effectively a national vote) and brining PR and DC into statehood. At least balance things a bit.

Progresshevik's utopia. Expand the Supreme Court, add members to Congress, and Gerrymandering by unchecked immigration.

 

[MrSquished]

Progresshevik's utopia. Expand the Supreme Court, add members to Congress, and Gerrymandering by unchecked immigration.

Not really, the dream is to cut the cancerous states off.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Progresshevik's utopia. Expand the Supreme Court, add members to Congress, and Gerrymandering by unchecked immigration.

Maybe if conservatives weren't a party of white supremacists and had decent policies they'd be able to appeal to a majority of the country. Just saying.
But keep building that wall digging that hole.