The GPU Vendor Bias Admission Thread

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Do you have a GPU vendor brand preference?

  • Yes, and I prefer AMD

  • Yes, and I prefer NVIDIA.

  • No, I'm totally and completely unbiased. Best product wins!


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alexruiz

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Huge AMD fanboy here!
Better performance at any (ok, at almost any) price point. Furthermore, until recently they were also the more power efficient ones, but then, If I want low power consumption I'll use a tablet :p

ps.
Maybe not as fanboy as I thought I was, I just recently built a PC for a client using a GTX950... heresy but oh well.
 

xthetenth

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These forums are not as pro AMD as those numbers suggest, what gives?

I know for a fact that at least one person who has leaned hard in NV's direction is deluding themselves and voted neutral, while there seem to be a lot of people saying they have a slight AMD bias.

In general discussion we mainly pay attention to the really heavily one-sided posters, and there's a good few people on the strongly NV side of things. It looks like there's a bunch of people who slightly prefer AMD product but you wouldn't really know it by asking them because it's based entirely on actual criteria and they'd probably talk about that before an outright brand preference.

It's one of those weird ones. I personally think that AMD products are likely to offer a vastly superior value proposition through longevity (I'm a very firm believer that cards are a rental and longevity cuts down on price hard), and since I tend to pass on my used cards rather than flip them, I don't have to worry about whether or not other people's bad opinions will cut into my resale value. Personally I don't think that's bias. What is bias and is why I voted I have a bias for AMD is that I really really don't like NV. Gameworks is a mess of a program and I don't want my money founding it, and unlike usual marketing claims which are always taken with a grain of salt and get tested, the 970 mess was an actual outright statement of fact that was incorrect in material sent to reviewers and got published as fact. I'm as mad if not more so about that than if rather than "overclocker's dream" AMD had claimed that it would guaranteed hit a 30% overclock and fudged numbers to make it look that way. I hope AMD doesn't do anything similar because I'm not going to buy another NV GPU for another two years period because I'm not rewarding them for the 970. I'm still a big old EVGA fanboy though, wish they made AMD cards.

What's a bit shocking is how few are "unbiased" (currently 21|6|15). This place is getting as extreme as American politics. Says something to people coming here trying to get unbiased advice on what is the best video card for there needs.

Better to get advice from people who acknowledge and account for their bias than people who don't. Also the diversity is good. Sometimes the serious fanboys come up with something outside the box that really makes sense. Usually they get laughed down by most everyone, but it's good to cover more possible suggestions.
 
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Burpo

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Nvidia, not for gaming, but for CUDA which I utilize a lot.
 

poofyhairguy

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I am Nvidia biased because I am much more likely to repurpose cards than sell them, and with Nvidia down the road I can stick the card in my hackintosh or one of my Linux HTPCs and it will work fine. AMD is a crapshoot for hackintoshing, and just not that great at Linux.

With that said, I can't wait to repurpose my last Nvidia card (that loud 750 Ti) and replace it with something from AMD. Double Dragon Neon is broken on Nvidia and Windows 10, and MadVR works better with AMD. Down the road Nvidia is better, but as soon as AMD has something lower-end (sub-$150) on a new node I will snag it for what I am doing today.
 

Headfoot

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I am a fanboy of anything that resembles the value proposition of the 8800 GT at launch. 90% of top end performance for 75% of the price or lower. That's why I own 290s and thats why many of my friends ended up with 8800 GTs and 5850's in their rigs back in the day.
 
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I am a fanboy of anything that resembles the value proposition of the 8800 GT at launch. 90% of top end performance for 75% of the price or lower. That's why I own 290s and thats why many of my friends ended up with 8800 GTs and 5850's in their rigs back in the day.

Gosh I loved my 8800GT. That card lasted me for years and eventually found its way into a friend's system where it lasted for years afterward. Poor thing died a couple of years ago, though, and is enjoying a much needed rest after a ridiculous amount of gaming.
 

xthetenth

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I am a fanboy of anything that resembles the value proposition of the 8800 GT at launch. 90% of top end performance for 75% of the price or lower. That's why I own 290s and thats why many of my friends ended up with 8800 GTs and 5850's in their rigs back in the day.

Oh goodness yes. That thing was a total dream. I had an EVGA 8600 GTS with step-up still available in my case when that thing dropped. That did a great job of making Crysis play better.
 

Face2Face

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I am a fanboy of anything that resembles the value proposition of the 8800 GT at launch. 90% of top end performance for 75% of the price or lower. That's why I own 290s and thats why many of my friends ended up with 8800 GTs and 5850's in their rigs back in the day.

Sadly when I was looking for a new video card, it was during the mining craze, and 290's were way overpriced. Anyway, the 8800 GT was probably the best mainstream card ever made. I couldn't believe how my 8800 GT 256MB version wrecked my old 7800 GT's in SLI.
 

Despoiler

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AMD biased here. I loath Nvidia's proprietary and closed business model. Gameworks, G-Sync, etc. AMD's approach has proven to move the industry forward in many different areas. Memory technology, API, etc. It also doesn't hurt that my cards have all been free or heavily subsidized by mining.
 

Headfoot

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Sadly when I was looking for a new video card, it was during the mining craze, and 290's were way overpriced. Anyway, the 8800 GT was probably the best mainstream card ever made. I couldn't believe how my 8800 GT 256MB version wrecked my old 7800 GT's in SLI.

Wow I forgot about the 256mb versions. I had an 8800 GTS 320 before the 8800gt came out, and I've never opted for the lower memory version of anything since. It was an instructive experience

290 has definitely had highs and lows, at release it was fantastic value if you were one of the lucky few to get one and you could handle a loud card. About 6-9 months ago was probably the second best time. I picked up a used 290 for $170 shipped, can' get much of a better deal $/perf than that
 

kawi6rr

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Fun fact though AMD lied more about Fury X then nvidia did with GTX 970.

This means absolutely nothing without a source proving it.

I've purchased more Nvidia cards since I started building systems back in 1999 but I tend to buy more AMD cards now, for my price range their products are almost always the better buy.
 

Det0x

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Prefer AMD over Nvidia, because of their shady business practices.. (Gamewrecks (c) + lying to their own customers etc etc)
 

Ancalagon44

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Its funny that the bias reported in this thread does not seem to tally with Nvidia's reported share of the discrete graphics card market.
 

crisium

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My first card was my brother's hand me down GeForce 2 MX. It wasn't much later that I wanted a bit more performance and I nabbed a GeForce 2 GTS off ebay because that was what my brother recommended.

This put me in the Nvidia camp out of habit. This was the peak of my Nvidia bias out of ignorance of the other side.

While researching a successor, I of course considered the GeForce 3 Ti500. This is when I noticed the Radeon 8500, and I considered switching things up. But I waited and the GeForce 4 Ti4200 came out and was faster. There was no bias in this decision, it was the better buy once it came out, albeit more expensive.

Now after the Radeon 9700 revolution, my next card was naturally ATI and I picked up the 9800 Pro. The GeForce FX series really gave them a terrible reputation. So much that I nearly blindly purchased my next card, the X1800XT. This was the peak of my ATI bias out of ignorance of the other side. I knew Nvidia had competing cards, but I did not consider them since I still had the FX series on my mind.

My next two cards were ATI/AMD due to good price deals. The 8800GT and 3850/3870 came out at the same time, and at the time I bought the 3850 for about 60% of the price the hotcake 8800GTs were going for. The 8800 revolution vs the 2900XT really hurt ATI in my view, but I simply couldn't afford the 8800GT. Just a year later, December 2008, I got a 4850 for $95.

While Fermi once again seemed to hurt the reputation of Nvidia, my next card was a GTX 460. I got a good used deal cheaper than the competing 6850 so price-to-performance won out. Then I shifted to a laptop for several years. It has a GTX 675M, which is a re-brand of 580M which is an underclocked GTX 560 Ti, underclocked so far it essentially matched GTX 460 performance. So I primarily gamed on Fermi for more than 3 and a half years and it never let me down.

But I still followed GPU developments and behaviors during this time. At this point I have a purchasing bias towards AMD because I strongly disapprove of many of Nvidia's business practices (Kepler, Gameworks, other proprietaries, GTX 970 lies). That doesn't mean I didn't notice AMD's framepacing issues early in GCN, Fury X pre-launch exaggerations, etc. but it is clear enough to me to draw a difference, and supporting the underdog plays a part (it's almost shocking that the now venerable 7000 series was somehow an underdog against the 600 series, imho).

My first dGPU since the GTX 460 was thus AMD, although I came very, very close to picking up a 980 Ti. I am more than willing to jump fence back to Nvidia pending they or AMD shift their courses. I'll gladly debate with people, but I do not let this alter my recommendations For most users and most price points either brand can be recommended due to their preferences and system. I'll never recommend a Fury X at current price points unless a user wants the best Freesync performance, for example.
 

swilli89

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Well my first card was an NV GeForce 3. Then an ATI 9700 pro. Then a NV 6800GT. Then an ATI X1950, then an AMD 4890, then an AMD 6970,and finally a 290x purchased 12 months ago for $300 brand new.

And so I'd say in recent history I've leaned AMD.

Whats funny is I've never argued more fanboyishly than I did when I was hyping up the 6800gt before it's and the Radeon x800 generation had come out. I was raging all over tomshardware forums, but I was also 14 years old. Now at 28 my values have shifted radically and I'm a much more well informed consumer and citizen.

I guess since I lean slightly left in politics and favor a more regulated market that I'm super sensitive to anti competitive practices. I remember with my 6800gt NV did driver floptimizations and the ships in my game homeworld 2 would alias biiig time at certain angles. I forgot all the details to this but it basically came down to NV rigging their drivers for benchmarks and I've never really felt the same since, I felt betrayed.

All that being said, I do not ignore price/performance and I nearly bought a 780 last year used but the deal disappeared so I went with the 290x and, very glad I did now.
 

Bacon1

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Its funny that the bias reported in this thread does not seem to tally with Nvidia's reported share of the discrete graphics card market.

Because marketing works. Nvidia spends a lot more on marketing than AMD and it pays off. They continue to sell the crippled 970 which they lied to everyone about and its their #1 seller.

People don't take the time to research for themselves, they just buy whats popular.
 

Bacon1

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I agree though that R9 390 is a amazing card for 1080p but for Freesync i do not think so because now a days R9 390 on new games barely keeps 60fps on 1080p at max out.

Not only do you not understand how freesync works (its for times when you do drop under monitor refresh rate but you are also providing no source for that claim. 390 is doing better than the 970 (or any other similar priced card) in newer games.

You've also yet to provide any evidence of how AMD lied worse on Fury X than Nvidia did on 970. You like to throw out a lot of opinions stated as facts with nothing to back them up.
 

Unoid

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Prefer AMD over Nvidia, because of their shady business practices.. (Gamewrecks (c) + lying to their own customers etc etc)

I'm with detox here. I've always gone with the best bang/buck card up until Nvidiastarted their war on PC gaming with GameDoesn'tWorks, and straight up lying.

I've owned 8800GT, 680 SLI, and current owner of a 980 TI, and nvidia shield portable.

If I can I'll reward AMD as much as possible. (fury x didn't have DL-DVI like 980ti did.)
 

ZipSpeed

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I have a slight bias towards AMD, but I own products from both vendors. The GTX 580 was my last Nvidia purchase and the 7950 was my last AMD purchase. Since prices have gone full retard for even mid-high GPUs, I haven't been able to justify any purchases. That said, my 7950 is still a very capable GPU at 1080p with some settings dialed back.
 

Glo.

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One thing occurred to me...

If there is so many people biased towards AMD, and so many people saying that best hardware will win for them... why the market has 80/20% split for Nvidia?


Looks like its the mindshare. Because objectively if we factor performance, DX12, compute power and the hardware features - for this better solution is AMD.

If we factor GameWorks, DX11, Efficiency, CUDA - here is no brainer - Nvidia.

Why has it that Nvidia has such high marketshare with all things considered?
 

Kenmitch

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One thing occurred to me...

If there is so many people biased towards AMD, and so many people saying that best hardware will win for them... why the market has 80/20% split for Nvidia?


Looks like its the mindshare. Because objectively if we factor performance, DX12, compute power and the hardware features - for this better solution is AMD.

If we factor GameWorks, DX11, Efficiency, CUDA - here is no brainer - Nvidia.

Why has it that Nvidia has such high marketshare with all things considered?

The Steam survey in which I've never been invited shows it's not a 80/20 split.

Each of them has it's advantages depending on a persons needs.
 
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One thing occurred to me...

If there is so many people biased towards AMD, and so many people saying that best hardware will win for them... why the market has 80/20% split for Nvidia?


Looks like its the mindshare. Because objectively if we factor performance, DX12, compute power and the hardware features - for this better solution is AMD.

If we factor GameWorks, DX11, Efficiency, CUDA - here is no brainer - Nvidia.

Why has it that Nvidia has such high marketshare with all things considered?

I just think that these forums are not representative of the broader gaming GPU buying population.